varjet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, undertow said: I'm noticing the Wilson hype is starting to go through the roof...comparing him to Mahomes, Watson, and Allen and how he's now the clear cut number 2 overall pick. This will increase our pick value at 2 but also the Darnold hate on these boards. The next few months should be fun. lol My guess is that Wilson's Draftable profile does not look remotely like Mahomes, Watson, Allen or Jackson's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, varjet said: My guess is that Wilson's Draftable profile does not look remotely like Mahomes, Watson, Allen or Jackson's. Don't disagree but this is now what draft and media guys are currently saying....they gotta get clicks and views the next few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, flgreen said: In college programs they often fudge the measurements, but he measured 72.3" at the combine. That's in front of 100's of people, and no reason to lie. It is what it is. Brees is a little over 6' He must have been standing on his tippy toes because I have stood face to face with him and he was basically the same size as me.. But I will believe the scale and ascribe my empirical evidence as false. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 hours ago, maury77 said: Wilson looks like he has a couple of inches on Brees, but look at the shoulder width on both of them. Brees has that athletic mesomorph build. Wilson has that ectomorph body type, it's going to be harder for him to put on muscle and keep his weight up. Combine that with the way Wilson likes to run around, he's a walking injury waiting to happen. Is this an Ectopmorph or Mesomorph? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 People rag on him for lack of competition and think that seriously altered his numbers, but his ball placement is crazy and he was rated as the best tight window thrower in the FBS. So no, not just getting praise for throwing to easy wide open receivers. Accuracy and Ball Placement are two similar, but different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 I want to inspire a thread-necro in 3 years. One worthy of the work to find this post. Justin Fields >>> Trevor Lawrence 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Grandy said: People rag on him for lack of competition and think that seriously altered his numbers, but his ball placement is crazy and he was rated as the best tight window thrower in the FBS. So no, not just getting praise for throwing to easy wide open receivers. Accuracy and Ball Placement are two similar, but different things. I saw that same pass in the playoffs; Fields to Olave for a td against much better defensive players go kick rocks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Is this an Ectopmorph or Mesomorph? That's an ectomorph with no significant injury history who went in the 6th round, not second overall. If you want to wait until the 6th round to take Wilson, I'm down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: I want to inspire a thread-necro in 3 years. One worthy of the work to find this post. Justin Fields >>> Trevor Lawrence Forgot to finish it... Zach Wilson>>>Justin Fields >>> Trevor Lawrence 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, slats said: I’m old enough to remember when Sewell was a lock to go #2. Really excited for the next couple months as more locks get installed and broken. Before Sewell, Fields was the lock at two. I remember back in the day being told finishing overall 1 or two didn't matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Grandy said: People rag on him for lack of competition and think that seriously altered his numbers, but his ball placement is crazy and he was rated as the best tight window thrower in the FBS. So no, not just getting praise for throwing to easy wide open receivers. Accuracy and Ball Placement are two similar, but different things. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but Luke Grant is the biggest snowflake on Jets twitter. I challenged one of his Wilson takes' one day and he blocked me. lol. Additionally, this was not a flick of the wrist throw by Wilson, he literally took a running start to make that throw. Still very accurate and impressive, but Luke Grant doesn't know his head from his a$$. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Paradis said: I saw that same pass in the playoffs; Fields to Olave for a td against much better defensive players go kick rocks Is this a Fields thread? Did I even say I preferred Wilson over Fields or was I just pointing out something impressive about a player? Did I even mention Fields in the first place? Does Fields making a similarly impressive throw mean the one I linked just ceases to exist? Did Fields make that fantastic throw on the run, or in the pocket making them completely different circumstances? Many questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, maury77 said: I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but Luke Grant is the biggest snowflake on Jets twitter. I challenged one of his Wilson takes' one day and he blocked me. lol. Additionally, this was not a flick of the wrist throw by Wilson, he literally took a running start to make that throw. Still very accurate and impressive, but Luke Grant doesn't know his head from his a$$. I have no idea who he is, but I've heard a few things. me see cool highlight -> me post it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 If I'm the Jets I pass on a Qb in this draft. (unless we get to 23 and they say, I cannot believe a guy like Lance is still there! then maybe). Fields and Wilson both have some really good attributes and some troubling issues. T 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, maury77 said: That's an ectomorph with no significant injury history who went in the 6th round, not second overall. If you want to wait until the 6th round to take Wilson, I'm down. Wilson missed three games, with a thumb sprain, in his entire 3 years starting as the QB at BYU. There is no significant injury history. He had a shoulder injury in HS - on which he had elective surgery after his freshman year of college - for which he didn't miss a game. There is no "significant" injury history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Grandy said: I have no idea who he is, but I've heard a few things. me see cool highlight -> me post it Please don't take it to mean anything against you, from our brief interactions, you have been nothing but cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Grandy said: Is this a Fields thread? Did I even say I preferred Wilson over Fields or was I just pointing out something impressive about a player? Did I even mention Fields in the first place? Does Fields making a similarly impressive throw mean the one I linked just ceases to exist? Did Fields make that fantastic throw on the run, or in the pocket making them completely different circumstances? Many questions. Point made. I'll start a thread lol For the record, I was talking to the twitter guy... which of course was not clear at all from my post. I feels you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Wilson missed three games, with a thumb sprain, in his entire 3 years starting as the QB at BYU. There is no significant injury history. He had a shoulder injury in HS - that he had electoral surgery after his freshman year of college - for which he didn't miss a game. There is no "significant" injury history. Look, I get it, you like him. You don't think surgery to both shoulders and his thumb before getting to the pros is significant. I do. It is what it is, people can have differences of opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Philc1 said: Multiple shoulder surgeries for a top 2 draft pick whose highlights are against East Tampon State’s Secondary. East Tampon State? I'd like to get me some on-campus housing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreekJet Posted February 10, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, maury77 said: Look, I get it, you like him. You don't think surgery to both shoulders and his thumb before getting to the pros is significant. I do. It is what it is, people can have differences of opinion. Watson has two ACLs. Should the Jets avoid him too? 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: Point made. I'll start a thread lol For the record, I was talking to the twitter guy... which of course was not clear at all from my post. I feels you. It happens bro, just a misunderstanding. In all actuality I would enjoy a fresh Fields thread. I didn't even read the gushing tweet, my caveman brain saw good throw and went ooga booga without regarding the fanboyism. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, maury77 said: That's an ectomorph with no significant injury history who went in the 6th round, not second overall. If you want to wait until the 6th round to take Wilson, I'm down. Tom Brady would have been more likely to get injured if he was taken #2 overall? Wilson is less likely to be injured if he was taken in the 6th round? This is about injury potential - nothing more. I just think it's silly at 6'3" 210 is a huge injury risk at 6'3" 220 - no problem, perfect size. We need to stop with his - not drafting him because he's 10 pounds lighter than Aaron Rodgers is just stupid. 10 pounds on a 6'3" frame is NOTHING. He can put that on in two months in the gym...ectomorph or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Watson has two ACLs. Should the Jets avoid him too? Watson has played at a pro bowl level for several years now at the NFL. That's different than evaluating a player that has not played in the pros yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Tom Brady would have been more likely to get injured if he was taken #2 overall? Wilson is less likely to be injured if he was taken in the 6th round? This is about injury potential - nothing more. I just think it's silly at 6'3" 210 is a huge injury risk at 6'3" 220 - no problem, perfect size. We need to stop with his - not drafting him because he's 10 pounds lighter than Aaron Rodgers is just stupid. 10 pounds on a 6'3" frame is NOTHING. He can put that on in two months in the gym...ectomorph or not. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Grandy said: It happens bro, just a misunderstanding. In all actuality I would enjoy a fresh Fields thread. I didn't even read the gushing tweet, my caveman brain saw good throw and went ooga booga without regarding the fanboyism. I understand. I too, dabble in knuckle-draggery. Particularly when it comes to the opposite sex. *hides club* “Hey you wanna see my cave?” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said: East Tampon State? I'd like to get me some on-campus housing! I respect it, but don’t enjoy that type of play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitonti Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Watson has two ACLs. Should the Jets avoid him too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If I'm the Jets I pass on a Qb in this draft. (unless we get to 23 and they say, I cannot believe a guy like Lance is still there! then maybe). Fields and Wilson both have some really good attributes and some troubling issues. 2 overall is Megatron country. Whoever it is should be a world class athlete. I can be talked into Fields. It's not my preference but the gifts are there. Wilson at 2 I don't understand and never will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: 2 overall is Megatron country. Whoever it is should be a world class athlete. I can be talked into Fields. It's not my preference but the gifts are there. Wilson at 2 I don't understand and never will. Will you understand it when he's an all-pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, maury77 said: I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but Luke Grant is the biggest snowflake on Jets twitter. I challenged one of his Wilson takes' one day and he blocked me. lol. Additionally, this was not a flick of the wrist throw by Wilson, he literally took a running start to make that throw. Still very accurate and impressive, but Luke Grant doesn't know his head from his a$$. This comment is so 2021....funny yet sad at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, undertow said: I'm noticing the Wilson hype is starting to go through the roof...comparing him to Mahomes, Watson, and Allen and how he's now the clear cut number 2 overall pick. This will increase our pick value at 2 but also the Darnold hate on these boards. The next few months should be fun. lol For what it’s worth he was getting compared to Mahomes and Rodgers like three or four months ago, it’s just louder now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, bitonti said: 2 overall is Megatron country. Whoever it is should be a world class athlete. I can be talked into Fields. It's not my preference but the gifts are there. Wilson at 2 I don't understand and never will. To be fair, I’m pretty sure it’d be reasonable to argue that Megatron is literally the best athlete regardless of position to enter the NFL in the last 20 years so that’s a pretty high bar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Tom Brady would have been more likely to get injured if he was taken #2 overall? Wilson is less likely to be injured if he was taken in the 6th round? This is about injury potential - nothing more. I just think it's silly at 6'3" 210 is a huge injury risk at 6'3" 220 - no problem, perfect size. We need to stop with his - not drafting him because he's 10 pounds lighter than Aaron Rodgers is just stupid. 10 pounds on a 6'3" frame is NOTHING. He can put that on in two months in the gym...ectomorph or not. I'm open-minded about this and will jump on board if they take Wilson at 2 but I will say that he doesn't look 6'3" to me. Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Lupz27 said: My bold prediction is the Jets decide to stick with Darnold and trade back to 6 with the Eagles also getting a 2022 1st and a 2021 3rd round pick or whatever fair compensation is. Jets grab one of the top 2 WR’s at 6 in Chase or one of the Alabama kids and away we go. Except Darnold is inaccurate and can’t throw long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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