joewilly12 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 NFL rumors: Texans’ Deshaun Watson to Jaguars for No. 1 pick (Trevor Lawrence) could be in play Updated 7:07 AM; Today 7:05 AM The Houston Texans might be forced to trade quarterback Deshaun Watson.Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com By Mike Rosenstein | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com This could be the blockbuster of all NFL blockbuster trades. The Athletic reports “One industry insider with insight into Urban Meyer thinks the Jaguars’ new coach could see the appeal of offering the first pick in April’s draft — i.e. Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence — in a package for (Deshaun) Watson. Though the Jaguars, coming off a 1-15 season, aren’t positioned to contend immediately, Watson would speed up the process for Meyer.” Meyer, of course, is beginning his first season as an NFL head coach, after winning three national titles in college. Lawrence is the consensus top prospect in the 2021 NFL Draft. Everyone has assumed Meyer will begin his Jacksonville rebuild by selecting Lawrence, leaving the New York Jets with a choice to make at No. 2: select a quarterback like Ohio State’s Justin Fields or BYU’s Zach Wilson; add an offensive playmaker like Heisman Trophy-winning wide receiver DeVonta Smith; or trade down and collect more draft picks. But a Watson-Jaguars deal would turn the draft upside down. The Texans deny they are trading the 25-year-old Watson, who wants out after four seasons in Houston, three of which saw the QB earn Pro Bowl nods. Watson, who led the NFL with 4,823 passing yards in 2020, is disgruntled after being left out of the Texans’ decision-making process which saw them hire Nick Caserio as general manager and David Culley as head coach. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: One industry insider with insight into Urban Meyer thinks the Jaguars’ new coach could see the appeal of offering the first pick in April’s draft Wow that is substantial and concrete 5 1 1 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Wow that is substantial and concrete Mike Rosenstein | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Well that's a kick in the nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 I too can potentially see the appeal in trading for an established star QB <save><publish> 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I’m sure this is rubbish but if I’m Jax I’d do this in a heartbeat. Trevor Lawrence has all the makings to potentially be a top 3 QB in the league. Deshaun Watson already is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Yeah right 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Fields it is. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 These dipsh*ts are just throwing around anything and everything at this point. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Deshaun Watson escaping from an unstable, over-empowered narcissistic evangelical nut bag only to get traded to Urban Meyer would be pretty awesome. 1 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Lawrence is a devout Christian so that would appeal to the Texans. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 so watson @ 40 million per year versus lawrence @ $7 million per year. interesting discussion but if i'm jacksonville i pass... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 I don't see Watson being traded within the division under any circumstances. 11 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Two problems with this in my opinion. Would the Texans really trade Watson to a division rival? I’m not convinced. And would Deshaun waive his no trade clause to go to Jacksonville? A small market team with a bottom 5 roster. I’d say unlikely. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I don't see Watson being traded within the division under any circumstances. Unless it was for a “generational” talent at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I don't see Watson being traded within the division under any circumstances. Exactly. The very last thing the Texans would want to do is face Watson 2x a year for the next decade+. They'll ship him to the NFC for 60 cents on the dollar before doing that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Jet2020 said: Unless it was for a “generational” talent at QB. Watson >>> Lawrence 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I wish we were having this debate. Thanks Rams and Browns! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I’m not even entertaining the Watson trade at this point and I don’t think it’s happening for us. Looking forward to Wilson airing it out in NY with 2-3 extra starters we couldn’t sign with Watson here plus the 2-2 additional high draft picks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Generational trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Unless it was for a “generational” talent at QB. It's too much of a risk for both parties, IMO. Divisional trades are hard to begin with. Add in an established star QB and a potential future star QB and I just don't see it. I'm having trouble even thinking of examples of QB trades within an NFL division - the only one that comes to mind is Donovan McNabb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Lawrence is a devout Christian so that would appeal to the Texans. So is Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 You have a no trade clause so you don't get traded to a team lime Jacksonville. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, slimjasi said: It's too much of a risk for both parties, IMO. Divisional trades are hard to begin with. Add in an established star QB and a potential future star QB and I just don't see it. I'm having trouble even thinking of examples of QB trades within an NFL division - the only one that comes to mind is Donovan McNabb. And in that situation, McNabb was toast or close to it, and the Eagles only ended up having to face McNabb 2 times while he was with Washington. McNabb was 34 at the time and lasted just 1 season with Washington before being let go. He finished out his career the following season in Minnesota, where he made just 6 starts. Watson is 25 and hasn't even entered his prime. Madness to trade him within the division. Madness. It would be hard enough to trade him within the conference, but that's where the best trade packages will be coming from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Not sure why the Jags wouldn't want to take advantage of Lawrence's rookie contract, if he's as good as people seem to think. And if Watson has a no trade contract, why would he want to go to the Jags? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, ChewyandtheJets said: so watson @ 40 million per year versus lawrence @ $7 million per year. interesting discussion but if i'm jacksonville i pass... not the case - Watson's cap hits are manageable the next 4 years. Only 10.5 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ChewyandtheJets said: so watson @ 40 million per year versus lawrence @ $7 million per year. interesting discussion but if i'm jacksonville i pass... Watson isn't $40MM/year and Lawrence isn't going to be $7MM/year. The disparity is about half that, and probably less. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 If I’m Jax you do it without a second thought... Trevor MAY be a Top 5 QB one day Watson IS a Top 5 QB Safe money is make the deal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: I’m not even entertaining the Watson trade at this point briny think it’s happening for us. Looking forward to Wilson airing it out in NY with 2-3 extra starters we couldn’t sign with Watson here plus the 2-2 additional high draft picks. Except we can sign them with Watson because we have the money and they'll want to play with him. Not sure why people think we won't have a ton of resources whether we give up 3 #1s over two years or not. We'll have a ton of cap space and plenty of other pics to fill out the roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drums Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 Yeah trade your QB to a division rival. That’s the last thing any reasonable franchise would do. Oh wait, this is the Texans. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Keep in mind this would be like the Jets pulling off a blockbuster with the Dolphins. You think Houston wants to play Watson two times a year for the next decade? You think Jax wants to hand Lawrence over Houston? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Wow that is substantial and concrete Yeah especially when they address the Watson no trade clause, I mean who doesn’t want to go to Jacksonville ? ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greensleeves said: not the case - Watson's cap hits are manageable the next 4 years. Only 10.5 next year. And his contract can be re-worked to spread money around. The signing bonus has already been paid by the Texans! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2021-2025 cost Watson = $146.54MM = $29.3MM average Lawrence = $68MM (likely 4 yrs $38MM plus a $30MM option for y5) = ~$13.5MM/yr average $29.3MM vs ~$13.5MM = about $15-16MM/year difference. Except that's also presuming Lawrence doesn't get a mega extension before/at the start of his 4th season like Watson/Mahomes. The first 2 years of amortized signing bonus on such a huge deal would close that gap even further, probably ~$12MM give or take, or $2-3MM/year. True net cost difference between the two - if Lawrence is nearly Watson's equal on the field - is about $13MM/year. That's it. For a team like Jacksonville - or the Jets - who will be sitting on some $80MM of cap room in March, and no obvious drafted players in need of extending anytime soon, the cost difference is insignificant weighed against the importance of the position. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 No trade clause. The editorial process is a lost art, I guess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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