Paradis Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, JTJet said: Literally every single thing you hear right now should be taken with a grain of salt. We are smack in the middle of disinformation season. There is absolutely a reason this was put out there now, there is always a reason this time of year. This has been known since the beginning of the college football season, why bring it up now of all times? Ryan Nassib 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Icer said: I hope you guys enjoy Sam Darnold passing for 215 YPG with 1 TD and 2 INT Sam Darnold 13-25 as an NFL starting QB. 45 TD's 39 INT's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, bitonti said: Because Sewell or maybe Chase or Smith are the blue chips. I like Fields at 8 or 12 I like Wilson at 23 It's a matter of value I think Fields at 8 or 12 and one of the blue chip guys is not totally outside the realm of possibility depending on what happens with Darnold and my current preference. This will likely change many times by draft day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, bitonti said: the longer I follow the draft the more i have to remind myself it's not about what we want to happen it's about what's going to happen. Jets fans (and Team Wilson) aren't going to gamestop JD to taking Wilson or Fields at 2. Gun to his head he'd probably take Fields due to football factory-ism. I don't believe JD wants to make either of those picks at 2 tbh. You may not want to hear this..but in all likelihood we're taking a QB at 2. That is by far the most likely scenario right now. Darnold getting traded is pretty much a lock at this point Getting Watson is a long shot at best When teams have the #2 pick in the draft and don't' have a QB - they take one at #2 Now, of course something else might happen. Like what you "want to happen" but it is FAR more likely we're taking a QB at 2 than anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Paradis said: Ryan Nassib I can say random QB names from any year too. Not sure what Nassib has to do with anything, he was a 4th round nobody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Tom Brady was and currently is an a$$hole from his college days to his last Super Bowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: I can say random QB names from any year too. Not sure what Nassib has to do with anything, he was a 4th round nobody. Cause at this time that he was suddenly a popular first round pick. Out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Is this when we remember when Paradis said he can't evaluate college QBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Zach Wilson in the huddle: Zach Wilson in the huddle: You're talking to a Mormon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Rosen 2.0 But did his teammates attend his birthday party? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Warfish said: Also a fair point. With that said, for God sake, PLEASE start capitalizing the first words of your sentences. You are poking me in a way I don't prefer to be poked sir. I will do my best. Sincerely yours, -ee cummings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Everyone loved Darnold and he’s a trash can, who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Thanks all who posted here. This thread is really my first look at Zach this year and take him or not, I'm feeling better about the value of our #2 than I did before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: You may not want to hear this..but in all likelihood we're taking a QB at 2. That is by far the most likely scenario right now. Darnold getting traded is pretty much a lock at this point Getting Watson is a long shot at best When teams have the #2 pick in the draft and don't' have a QB - they take one at #2 Now, of course something else might happen. Like what you "want to happen" but it is FAR more likely we're taking a QB at 2 than anything else. I fully admit and understand the Jets are most likely not going to do what I want them to do in the draft The bolded statement isn't exactly backed up by history by the way that's more of internet thinking not Joe Douglas wants to pay the mortgage thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Seems like a bad lead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Is this when we remember when Paradis said he can't evaluate college QBs? No one can. QBASE makes a valiant effort, or at the very least is good at telling people which QB's NOT to pick. Everyone else has no real clue. Speaking for myself, I wanted to draft Watson, but I didn't want Pat Mahomes or Josh Allen. I also liked Darnold the best out of the 2018 class at the time. The ability to process quickly at the pro level is something you can't determine about a QB until long after he's been drafted. All you can do is draft a reasonably high football IQ guy with solid character, durability and athleticism....then pray. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: Seems like a bad lead. I definitely feel better about it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Also former Jets scout says-- He lost me at lacks arm strength. No way a former scout said that! I understand why the Jets suckith all these years. If a scout can’t judge arm strength, something that you can measure without any bias, than I can’t trust anything else you’re saying. The rest of stuff is somewhat subjective. So can’t really argue there as everyone is going to have their own opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I remember a kid who was a highly regarded QB in college. Initially, he was expected to go very high in the draft but "whispers" and rumors about his "character" made his stock fall on draft day. The Jets were one of many teams that were looking for a QB but passed on him. Too risky. His name: Dan Marino. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Paradis said: Also former Jets scout says-- Just take Fields and be done with it. The guy has great throwing mechanics. I think Joe is going to take Fields. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, TMAC said: I remember a kid who was a highly regarded QB in college. Initially, he was expected to go very high in the draft but "whispers" and rumors about his "character" made his stock fall on draft day. The Jets were one of many teams that were looking for a QB but passed on him. Too risky. His name: Dan Marino. That's cool. For every guy who "fell" and succeeded, like Marino or Aaron Rodgers, there are quite a few highly thought of fallers who failed, like Todd Marinovich, Patrick Ramsey, Matt Leinart, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel, Paxton Lynch, Josh Rosen, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, TMAC said: I remember a kid who was a highly regarded QB in college. Initially, he was expected to go very high in the draft but "whispers" and rumors about his "character" made his stock fall on draft day. The Jets were one of many teams that were looking for a QB but passed on him. Too risky. His name: Dan Marino. Two thoughts. 1) Marino was a 4-year starter at Pitt. No comparison to Wilson. 2) Marino's last college season, he threw 17 TDs and 23 INTs. Could that have maybe affected his draft status a little? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, J_Smith said: He literally has a C on his jersey in this picture anybody addressed this, or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 He is gonna bust, you can see it a mile away. Suddenly shooting up draft charts, 1 good year, questionable character. No idea why the love affair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Paradis said: Cause at this time that he was suddenly a popular first round pick. Out of nowhere. Maybe by a couple outlets, none of whom anyone took seriously. Nassib was not good at all and was never a serious consideration to go in the 1st round. Wilson is a top 5 lock. Making this comparison just tells me you never bothered to watch him play other than actively search out any bad clips you could find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Is this when we remember when Paradis said he can't evaluate college QBs? I'm sorry your Fridays are no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Wow McShay has a lot to answer for here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, JTJet said: Maybe by a couple outlets, none of whom anyone took seriously. Nassib was not good at all and was never a serious consideration to go in the 1st round. Wilson is a top 5 lock. Making this comparison just tells me you never bothered to watch him play other than actively search out any bad clips you could find. you're able to qualify NFL rumors AND make February LOCKS?? This is incredible. I'm filing to divorce my witch wife. I am yours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 For the record, they found a bunch of UCLA dudes who attested to Rosen being a “great leader,” too. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: For the record, they found a bunch of UCLA dudes who attested to Rosen being a “great leader,” too. key word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, jetscrazey said: One thing to consider is on BYU, many seniors are 24/25 years old because they've been on missions. Wilson didn't tdo that, he's 21, so maybe the age is a factor in not being a captain. Regardless, he's no Josh Rosen. He's a much better talent. Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Wow McShay has a lot to answer for here It's important, and entertaining to see his teammates flame Cimini on twitter, but this comes down to McShay and bad reporting. I mean, when you look up Wilson on google the first images all have him with a "C" patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Party was already started you are 3 hours late with this news. sweet baby jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 'C' could stand for a lot of things. Just sayin'... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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