Philc1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Rich Cimini stirring the pot, he’s setting a narrative. NY Sports media stinks, at least no more Manish BS now. Cimini also wanted us to draft Paxton Lynch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, johnnysd said: He was not voted a Captain but earned it during the season. In some ways that is more impressive. And I read somewhere that McShay was given the wrong info and that the story was wrong, he was already named captain so he wasnt up for the vote for the honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Rich Cimini stirring the pot, he’s setting a narrative. NY Sports media stinks, at least no more Manish BS now. Cimini was quoting McShay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Rich Cimini stirring the pot, he’s setting a narrative. NY Sports media stinks, at least no more Manish BS now. Wasnt the big, bad NY media this time. Cimini was quoting McShay who originally reported it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Reports have been that his teammates love him, there isnt a leadership problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Reports have been that his teammates love him, there isnt a leadership problem I feel like being a “leader” on a team full of Mormon missionaries might not translate into leading a team in the NFL. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 He was not voted a Captain but earned it during the season. In some ways that is more impressive. Exactly... it wasn't handed to him on a silver platter... earning it is by far WAY MORE IMPRESSIVE.That is all ... dude is a stud.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Exactly... it wasn't handed to him on a silver platter... earning it is by far WAY MORE IMPRESSIVE. That is all ... dude is a stud. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app You are basing this on a lot of assumptions. He was made captain to replace a player who was injured in week 1. I also believe that decision was made by the coaches, as opposed to the team who picked the original captains. Who knows if he 'earned' it, or if it was just a case of, next man up so let's pick the QB, who wasn't one of the first four captains named. None of us know what really went down in that decision making, but when the team picked captains before the season, they chose 3 Juniors and 1 Senior, none of whom were named Wilson. That's pretty much all we know. I'm not even saying this means diddly-squat, but let's not create a fictional narrative to support the guy in the absence of facts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I feel like being a “leader” on a team full of Mormon missionaries might not translate into leading a team in the NFL. Yeah his team mates will be younger 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 BTW, lost in all of this noise...has anyone considered if an 'unnamed NFL GM or Personnel Director' picking outside of the top-2 would have any agenda for talking up Zach Wilson? Like perhaps somehow imagining it nudged a team ahead of them to draft him instead of, say, Justin Fields? Seriuosly...if you are picking #4 or #5, you are not talking up the guy you want. You are talking up the guy you don't want. Not saying that's what's going on, but has anyone even paused to consider that many of these articles about how great Wilson is are spinning out from these 'unnamed sources'. By the time the draft rolls around, we'll have a better sense of all this if Fields goes at #2 and Wilson is still on the board five picks later. Because at the end of the day, it's highly likely that NFL teams do not pay any attention to this noise. Maybe he goes #2, maybe he doesn't. But if he doesn't, you might want to pause before you go off on how stupid all these GMs are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: BTW, lost in all of this noise...has anyone considered if an 'unnamed NFL GM or Personnel Director' picking outside of the top-2 would have any agenda for talking up Zach Wilson? Like perhaps somehow imagining it nudged a team ahead of them to draft him instead of, say, Justin Fields? Seriuosly...if you are picking #4 or #5, you are not talking up the guy you want. You are talking up the guy you don't want. Not saying that's what's going on, but has anyone even paused to consider that many of these articles about how great Wilson is are spinning out from these 'unnamed sources'. By the time the draft rolls around, we'll have a better sense of all this if Fields goes at #2 and Wilson is still on the board five picks later. Because at the end of the day, it's highly likely that NFL teams do not pay any attention to this noise. Maybe he goes #2, maybe he doesn't. But if he doesn't, you might want to pause before you go off on how stupid all these GMs are. The scouting community is filled with morbidly obese Matt Patricia-looking failures who travel the country leering at college kids for $30k per year in hopes of climbing the ladder. They aren’t coaches, they aren’t even “scouts,” per se. They do data entry in between repeated trips to Arby’s. These slobs have no idea what they’re looking at when it comes to QBs because they all grew up thinking the ideal QB was a 6’4” white guy with a strong arm. Because so many of them missed so hard on Watson, Mahomes, Josh Allen, etc, they’re all just flailing around guessing wildly about what any particular prospect is capable of. Comparing Wilson to Mahomes because of his ability to throw “off platform” is especially laughable because the big knock on Mahomes, from these same clowns, was that he was “going to have to learn to play from the pocket.” It’s embarrassing to see them turn tail now so they don’t sh*t all over themselves again. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The scouting community is filled with morbidly obese Matt Patricia-looking slobs who travel the country looking at college kids for $30k per year in hopes of climbing the ladder. They aren’t coaches, they aren’t even “scouts,” per se. They do data entry in between repeated trips to Arby’s. These slobs have no idea what they’re looking at when it comes to QBs because they all grew up thinking the ideal QB was a 6’4” white guy with a strong arm. Because so many of them missed so hard on Watson, Mahomes, Josh Allen, etc, they’re all just flailing around guessing wildly about what any particular prospect is capable of. Comparing Wilson to Mahomes because of his ability to throw “off platform” is especially laughable because the big knock on Mahomes, from these same clowns, was that he was “going to have to learn to play from the pocket.” It’s embarrassing to see them turn tail now so they don’t sh*t all over themselves again. Josh Allen is a 6’4” white guy with a strong arm. 6’5” actually. Don’t totally disagree otherwise, but lol. I think Wilson really broke that mold. Even Brees was nominally 6’ and a fraction more, but in no way did he resemble the prior ideal prospect of Peyton Manning...or Ryan Leaf . But Wilson was supposedly too short to play behind 6’5” tall iOLmen, plus on top of that he was a running QB so he was doubly likely to fail. Meanwhile he’s started 160 straight games or something and is the NFL’s reigning Iron Horse. We were still right to trade up for Stephen Hill instead of Wilson, though. Look at his measurables, man. Just like Megatron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Philc1 said: Did Dan Marino have torn labrums in both shoulders by the time he was 21? No, but the miracles of modern surgery 2021 is quite a different thing. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: No, but the miracles of modern surgery 2021 is quite a different thing. SAR I are you saying phil is not a medical expert bc I will fight you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: Has anyone even paused to consider that many of these articles about how great Wilson is are spinning out from these 'unnamed sources'. No, because that’s not true. Many living breathing people with names attached to them are saying it. The analysts at PFF. Daniel Jeremiah. Dane Brugler at the Athletic. Even Todd McShay ranks him as the #2 QB in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: The scouting community is filled with morbidly obese Matt Patricia-looking failures who travel the country leering at college kids for $30k per year in hopes of climbing the ladder. They aren’t coaches, they aren’t even “scouts,” per se. They do data entry in between repeated trips to Arby’s. These slobs have no idea what they’re looking at when it comes to QBs because they all grew up thinking the ideal QB was a 6’4” white guy with a strong arm. Because so many of them missed so hard on Watson, Mahomes, Josh Allen, etc, they’re all just flailing around guessing wildly about what any particular prospect is capable of. Comparing Wilson to Mahomes because of his ability to throw “off platform” is especially laughable because the big knock on Mahomes, from these same clowns, was that he was “going to have to learn to play from the pocket.” It’s embarrassing to see them turn tail now so they don’t sh*t all over themselves again. Can you tell me where to send my resume? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: are you saying phil is not a medical expert bc I will fight you Well he is a Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Reports have been that his teammates love him, there isnt a leadership problem Yes one of them actually responded to Cimini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 BTW, lost in all of this noise...has anyone considered if an 'unnamed NFL GM or Personnel Director' picking outside of the top-2 would have any agenda for talking up Zach Wilson? Like perhaps somehow imagining it nudged a team ahead of them to draft him instead of, say, Justin Fields? Seriuosly...if you are picking #4 or #5, you are not talking up the guy you want. You are talking up the guy you don't want. Not saying that's what's going on, but has anyone even paused to consider that many of these articles about how great Wilson is are spinning out from these 'unnamed sources'. By the time the draft rolls around, we'll have a better sense of all this if Fields goes at #2 and Wilson is still on the board five picks later. Because at the end of the day, it's highly likely that NFL teams do not pay any attention to this noise. Maybe he goes #2, maybe he doesn't. But if he doesn't, you might want to pause before you go off on how stupid all these GMs are.You have to trust your personnel dept ..didn't you see draft day ? Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Man this is some sort of storm around Wilson(not just on this board). My eyes and gut tell me I want Fields, everything/everyone else that would know better than me say it should be Wilson. I'll say this, at this point I'll be shocked if Wilson isn't our QB next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: I feel like being a “leader” on a team full of Mormon missionaries might not translate into leading a team in the NFL. Maybe there is a God after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 17 hours ago, T0mShane said: I feel like being a “leader” on a team full of Mormon missionaries might not translate into leading a team in the NFL. Who cares about his religion? The important thing is does he have nice highlights facing Coastal Carolina and South Dakota State? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: Man this is some sort of storm around Wilson(not just on this board). My eyes and gut tell me I want Fields, everything/everyone else that would know better than me say it should be Wilson. I'll say this, at this point I'll be shocked if Wilson isn't our QB next year. Because it would be so jetsy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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