Bert Breer’s update on Sam Darnold

[GreekJet]

 

[Jetsbb]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/02/15/mmqb-todd-inside-bowles-game-plan-for-mahomes-texans-mess-trevor-lawrence-pro-day

My guess is that Sam Darnold’s name will continue to come up. We told you last week four teams called the Jets, in the aftermath of the Stafford trade, to inquire on Sam Darnold’s availability. More have called since, I’m told, and the answer those teams got was the same that the ones calling before got—Check back with us soon. Right now, the Jets coaching staff is working through its tape evaluation of the draft-eligible quarterbacks, which is a huge piece to all of his. The job, for the Jets right now, is to compare and contrast what it has in Darnold (at 23, with a year plus an option year left on his contract) to what Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, or Trey Lance (coming on new/affordable rookie deals) could be for them. There are a lot of teams that would be obvious potential landing spots. Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Chicago and San Francisco make sense, pending what happens with Wentz, and the scarcity of available names (and I mean actually available, not just potentially available) right now could drive Darnold’s value up. Either way, it’s a good spot for Jets GM Joe Douglas and new coach Robert Saleh to be in.

6) I think the Jets and Dolphins are in position to deal their Top 3 picks. That doesn’t mean either will (I think the Jets, for one, are more likely than not to stay put). It does mean that there will be a market for both the second and third picks. Teams will emerge from the Wentz situation with a quarterback. Others are quietly looking for an upgrade over who they already have, or for an heir to put behind an aging starter. I think because of all that, teams will look at 2 and 3 as potential places to get those things, and with four guys that I believe are seen as worthy of going in the Top 10, whoever gets there will have options. Would teams have to go that high to get them? Well, if you’re paying attention …

[k-met57]

sorry where does it say that the jets are likely to take a QB at 2? lol

[T0mShane]

The lack of in-person NFL events has really doomed the Hot Takes industry. There’s not even the pretense of having insider information. It’s all “I think,” or “I’d say right now that...” Terrible. 

[JustInFudge]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The lack of in-person NFL events has really doomed the Hot Takes industry. There’s not even the pretense of having insider information. It’s all “I think,” or “I’d say right now that...” Terrible. 

I personally appreciate the "report" that someone "reported" 2 weeks ago when they "reported" someone elses "report".

 

[Adoni Beast]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

I personally appreciate the "report" that someone "reported" 2 weeks ago when they "reported" someone elses "report".

 

We should start reporting people who reports, reports from other people who reported the reports of other reporters, who were reported for false reporting.

[GodDamnSnack]

Credibility means nothing these days. These ahole "reporters" just make things up and are rewarded for it because fans have started treating football like it's a soap opera.

Somewhere along the way it became more about these rumors than the competition on the field and the abilities of the actual players. Most young people who say they are fans just gossip about these athletes like they're the Kardashians. They use phrases like "generational" and "x-factor" thinking it makes them as smart as Stephen A. Smith.

I feel like most of these guys run to the bathroom to play with themselves whenever there is a trade, but probably don't even watch half the games.

 

[ToonforPrez]

I'm not really in tune with Breer is he or does he have the pulse of what is going on within the league? Or is he just another throw sh*t at the wall and see what sticks? or do we just stick with @Mogglez & @football guy haha.

[flgreen]

 

 

 

 

Harrison Glaser

 

@NYJetsTFMedia

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19h

 

Per

@nflrums

Robert Saleh will want a fresh new QB to start his tenure with the #Jets Fresh New QB: #TakeFlight

[undertow]

21 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The lack of in-person NFL events has really doomed the Hot Takes industry. There’s not even the pretense of having insider information. It’s all “I think,” or “I’d say right now that...” Terrible. 

What's even funnier is they are starting to report on what each other are saying. lol

[munchmemory]

[HawkeyeJet]

4 minutes ago, ToonforPrez said:

I'm not really in tune with Breer is he or does he have the pulse of what is going on within the league? Or is he just another throw sh*t at the wall and see what sticks? or do we just stick with @Mogglez & @football guy haha.

Breer is connected.  None of them bat 1.000, but Breer is one of the top 3-4 I legit pay attention to when he says something.  He's annoying as **** so he's hard to stomach (in my opinion) but his info is solid.

If you read the tea leaves, I think it's becoming obvious that the Jets know Darnold is gone, they just don't know which QB scenario will play out, Watson or QB at 2(and which one at 2)

Pretty soon dudes(not saying the dudes here) that aren't really connected will start connecting those tea leaves and reporting inside info that Darnold is gone.

[section314]

2 minutes ago, flgreen said:

 

 

 

 

Harrison Glaser

 

@NYJetsTFMedia

·

19h

 

Per

@nflrums

Robert Saleh will want a fresh new QB to start his tenure with the #Jets Fresh New QB: #TakeFlight

James Morgan would qualify for that.

[Adoni Beast]

I think we definitely are trading Sam.

Sticking with Sam this year means they’re also basically committing over 20 million for 2022.

With the talent of Wilson and Fields, I just can’t see Joe D passing up on a rookie QB contract.

Douglas and Saleh have the luxury of time + draft picks + lots of cap $ to build this team. 

The only way we stick with Sam is if Jets have an agreement with a team offering an absolute haul for the 2nd pick AND they value Wilson and/or Fields similar to Darnold.

[ToonforPrez]

@HawkeyeJet Thanks for the info buddy appreciate it. From what i can surmise Sam is gone sad but true as we need to reset the Cap at QB and have Saleh and staff build with a new QB. I do believe Watson will not be the route they take just an opinion though as it seems outside of what JD would do.  

[rangerous]

nothing new here.  the fact that there is some interest in darnold will ensure that he gets a good evaluation by douglas and saleh .  so if they go qb with the 2nd pick and trade darnold it will be for a good reason.  and this is good.  the 2 pick is very valuable and can be parlayed into more good picks.  maybe even some future picks too.

[Jetsbb]

13 minutes ago, ToonforPrez said:

I'm not really in tune with Breer is he or does he have the pulse of what is going on within the league? Or is he just another throw sh*t at the wall and see what sticks? or do we just stick with @Mogglez & @football guy haha.

Albert Breer was doing radio spots hinting the Jets loved Adam Gase when no one else had it at the time. Ever since then I pay particular attention to what he says about the Jets. He also had a very deep inside story on the Jets process of selecting Sam Darnold in the draft. Including private conversations they were having when they ate dinner with him. Safe to say his insight means a hell of a lot more than Albright or Laconfora who are known scammers. 

[Augustiniak]

5 minutes ago, ToonforPrez said:

@HawkeyeJet Thanks for the info buddy appreciate it. From what i can surmise Sam is gone sad but true as we need to reset the Cap at QB and have Saleh and staff build with a new QB. I do believe Watson will not be the route they take just an opinion though as it seems outside of what JD would do.  

i think the money/cap situation makes the decision easier to trade sam.  i do believe they think darnold can become functional and even decent in the new offense, but if they also think wilson can, why not have a qb on a rookie deal and help the team elsewhere.  

[Adoni Beast]

23 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Breer is connected.  None of them bat 1.000, but Breer is one of the top 3-4 I legit pay attention to when he says something.  He's annoying as **** so he's hard to stomach (in my opinion) but his info is solid.

If you read the tea leaves, I think it's becoming obvious that the Jets know Darnold is gone, they just don't know which QB scenario will play out, Watson or QB at 2(and which one at 2)

Pretty soon dudes(not saying the dudes here) that aren't really connected will start connecting those tea leaves and reporting inside info that Darnold is gone.

Very true. The second Darnold is traded the ransom for Watson goes up even more for the Jets.

I think once Wentz is traded (and that has to happen soon or Philly is screwed), Sam will be traded quickly.

Another wild card is if WFT trades for Mariota. Wentz and Mariota could take 2 Sam suitors out of the equation and will limit our asking price.

I wonder if Philly would bring in Sam to compete with Hurts?...

 

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, k-met57 said:

sorry where does it say that the jets are likely to take a QB at 2? lol

• “The Jets are in a position to deal their #2 but are more likely than not to stay put.”

I assume this is where it came from. Obviously, the Jets could stay put at 2 and take an OL/WR but given all the interest in Wilson, there is no chance the Jets stay put and do anything else besides take Wilson. If they don't like him, they would just trade down. 

 

[playtowinthegame]

My sources tell me Darnold will be the Washington Football Club's quarterback in 2021. There's you're hot take. ?

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The lack of in-person NFL events has really doomed the Hot Takes industry. There’s not even the pretense of having insider information. It’s all “I think,” or “I’d say right now that...” Terrible. 

What every beat reporter is saying to the other.

[Pac]

He said nothing other than the Jets have been shooing people away whove been calling about Sam.

If you want to take that to mean a deal is imminent knock yourself out.

[Beerfish]

I'm still troubled by both Wilson and Fields being a sure fire #2 overall franchise QB.

My #1  preference is still to trade down.  Whether they trade darnold or not.

[Jetsbb]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I'm still troubled by both Wilson and Fields being a sure fire #2 overall franchise QB.

My #1  preference is still to trade down.  Whether they trade darnold or not.

PFF has Zach Wilson and Justin Fields as QB1s any other year

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-how-good-are-the-2021-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-why-this-class-is-one-of-the-most-talented-ever

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The lack of in-person NFL events has really doomed the Hot Takes industry. There’s not even the pretense of having insider information. It’s all “I think,” or “I’d say right now that...” Terrible. 

 

1 hour ago, JiF said:

I personally appreciate the "report" that someone "reported" 2 weeks ago when they "reported" someone elses "report".

 

Using an App that automatically re-tweets for you, a friend of mine, as an experiment, created this twitter handle in 2016:

https://twitter.com/USNewsAndReport

 

It used to generate a bunch of US news but I guess some people got wise to what he (and possibly others) were doing and shut that down.  The last bunch of tweets were just NASA news, and they ended in 2019. Still, for 3 years it was humming with activity, with nearly 24,000 tweets and hundreds of followers.  lol.

[FidelioJet]

I think they're all kinda saying the same thing because trading Sam and taking a QB at two was pretty much the only logical move for the Jets to make.

Now that it's clear there's a strong trade market for Sam it's become a no brainer

 

[riggy001]

No news here, doing exactly what i expected, due diligence , decision on sam by new yr, mid- march.

 

 

[BROOKLYN JET]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

I personally appreciate the "report" that someone "reported" 2 weeks ago when they "reported" someone elses "report".

 

This is now affectionately known as the circle-back. 

[Pac]

11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

 

Now that it's clear there's a strong trade market for Sam it's become a no brainer

 

Or..  maybe you don't trade the QB many quality organizations think can be good, and instead make him good yourselves.

 

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, Pac said:

Or..  maybe you don't trade the QB many quality organizations think can be good. and instead make him good yourselves.

 

He's done here.  

[Pac]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He's done here.  

No he's not.

Keep it up and you will be though.

[Paradis]

51 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

Albert Breer was doing radio spots hinting the Jets loved Adam Gase when no one else had it at the time. Ever since then I pay particular attention to what he says about the Jets. He also had a very deep inside story on the Jets process of selecting Sam Darnold in the draft. Including private conversations they were having when they ate dinner with him. Safe to say his insight means a hell of a lot more than Albright or Laconfora who are known scammers. 

His roots are in the Boston-NY area if memory serves. Would expect his east coast  intel to be likely stronger. 

[Biggs]

Can the Jets brain trust create a virtual Darnold performance on Ohio State and BYU and Compare it to a virtual performance of Fields and Wilson on the Jets in 2020?  If the Jets are to cheap to do a good animation they can go with claymation.  

[oatmeal]

22 minutes ago, Pac said:

He said nothing other than the Jets have been shooing people away whove been calling about Sam.

If you want to take that to mean a deal is imminent knock yourself out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4822221/domino-effect-with-sam-darnold-could-affect-patriots-qb-plans%3fplatform=amp

 

“ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Sunday the New York Jets have fielded multiple calls from teams expressing interest in Sam Darnold. The Jets, per Schefter, haven't turned away the calls, but also haven't made any firm decisions about their future at quarterback (they own the No. 2 pick in the 2021 NFL draft).”

 

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