GreekJet Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I think I would take the 8th pick. Potential trade down opportunities with that pick. Could end up parlaying it into two first round picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 19? 19? When I see it I'll believe it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Rather trade Darnold to Washington for the 19th draft pick. Have to agree there. If someone's there at #7 (or 8 or 9), that we want so badly we think the prospect is worth 2 immediate 1sts, I don't think it'd be hard to trade up using #19 and #23. But also because there are superstar veteran QBs whose situations are at least in flux, and I'd rather have more 1sts if we're making a trade for one. Even if they stay on their respective teams, it makes it easier to take a QB at #2 without worrying if he's really worth #2 or if we could have gotten him at #6 or something. If you like him enough at #6, then an extra top 20 pick allows JD to not pussyfoot around and risk losing him over 100-200 draft chart points. #19 + #23 keeps the most options open. Being at #8 doesn't automatically mean we could get back two immediate 1st round picks. There has to be a team with 2 such picks in the first place, and then that team has to want to trade both of them to move up, and further that they want to move up to our slot not the slot ahead of or behind us. I think this one's an easy decision if both are offered. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad2coles Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I think Carolina's 2nd round pick is closer to the return we'll get for Darnold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: 19? 19? When I see it I'll believe it. N'nuh-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-nine-teen. Nine-teen. Also yes I'll also believe 19 for Darnold when I see it, and not a moment before that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Have to agree there. If someone's there at #7 (or 8 or 9), that we want so badly we think the prospect is worth 2 immediate 1sts, I don't think it'd be hard to trade up using #19 and #23. But also because there are superstar veteran QBs whose situations are at least in flux, and I'd rather have more 1sts if we're making a trade for one. Even if they stay on their respective teams, it makes it easier to take a QB at #2 without worrying if he's really worth #2 or if we could have gotten him at #6 or something. If you like him enough at #6, then an extra top 20 pick allows JD to not pussyfoot around and risk losing him over 100-200 draft chart points. #19 + #23 keeps the most options open. Being at #8 doesn't automatically mean we could get back two immediate 1st round picks. There has to be a team with 2 such picks in the first place, and then that team has to want to trade both of them to move up, and further that they want to move up to our slot not the slot ahead of or behind us. I think this one's an easy decision if both are offered. If I am JD I’d try to maximize value on Darnold by soliciting 2022 draft capital. It is riskier, but should net a better rate of return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 If either of these deals become available to us we have a party 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 If we could get 19 we could get a top QB prospect, a stud interior O lineman and a WR or maybe edge. Very exciting. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 19 plz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: N'nuh-n'-n'-n'-n'-n'-nine-teen. Nine-teen. Also yes I'll also believe 19 for Darnold when I see it, and not a moment before that. WOW was going to include the video but it's so sensitive and disturbing I thought 19 times about it. And Darnold doesn't deserve to be associated with such a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So some people prefer #8 so we could then trade back. For what??? 19 & 23???? oh nurse! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Definitely 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Either scenario works for me. I'd just be glad I'm not a Panthers or Washington fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If we get a first rounder for Darnold I’ll be doing head stands. But since you asked I would take the 19th pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 No trading back we need some superstar playmakers on this team enough of the JAG's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Thats so easy. Darnold and 23 for 8. it virtually guarantees you kyle pitts you can get sewell and pitts in round 1. Two projected all pros hof types 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 plz 19? 19? 19?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Thats so easy. Darnold and 23 for 8. it virtually guarantees you kyle pitts you can get sewell and pitts in round 1. Two projected all pros hof types So whos your QB in this fantasy scenario. Clearly not Darnold, and not Deshaun either. If they make that trade, one of those picks is a QB, full stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Is Darnold better than Teddy Bridgewater? They have him signed for another two years yet the owner recently said that you keep looking for a QB until he takes you to the Super Bowl. Not sure why the Panthers would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, rayzor said: Is Darnold better than Teddy Bridgewater? They have him signed for another two years yet the owner recently said that you keep looking for a QB until he takes you to the Super Bowl. Not sure why the Panthers would be interested. Why? I have said this for the last two years and it still seems to hold true. The idea of Sam Darnold is better than the actual player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Alka said: Both teams have inquired about Darnold, and if the rumor of the Jets getting a first round pick is correct, which would you rather have? I honestly don't know which is better. You give them Sammy and our SECOND. Nothing more.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I think some here are misreading the market for Sam. By a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, EM31 said: I think some here are misreading the market for Sam. By a lot. To be fair Breer and Schefter are reporting this stuff. I think most fans (myself included) thought a 2022 2nd or 2021 3rd was his peak value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Trade him to the panthers in that scenerio. The reason is if you hit on three first round prospects it makes things super complicated in the future. It is complicated enough with two. The other thing is that puts us in line for a blue chip reciever prospect or Kyle pitts who reminds me of a young jimmy graham.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 The most they will get for Darnold is something like a third this year and a conditional 1st next year if he meets some very impressive starting numbers over some reasonable stretch. Nothing more than that is even remotely possible. I’d love to be wrong, but I’m not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, JTJet said: So whos your QB in this fantasy scenario. Clearly not Darnold, and not Deshaun either. If they make that trade, one of those picks is a QB, full stop. Idk. A vet? Maybe one of the 5 slip to rd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Idk. A vet? Maybe one of the 5 slip to rd 2 Mighty wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Wanting Darnold makes sense. Wanting him so much that you'd drop from 8 to 23 to get him does not. They'd be putting all their chips to the center on a QB who hasn't produced in 3 years and has just 1 year left on his deal. That kind of decision gets GM's fired when they fail.ShhhhhhhhhSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, JTJet said: Mighty wishful thinking. Theres a draft next year too. Rome wasnt built in a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Theres a draft next year too. Rome wasnt built in a day I will bet my left nut that there is no way we deal Darnold and dont draft a QB. If we are aiming to get a QB next year, we should keep Darnold this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Take 2, 19, and 23 then trade back with 23 to get more picks even if it means getting out of the 1st and picking up more 2022 picks. 3 number 1 picks is a little scary because you take those picks assuming they’re going to hit. That means ~$75+ million in 5th year options all due at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1) Don't think we'll get this much value for Sam - if we got either I'd do a back flip 2) I'd rather have 19 in a vacuum 3) If Carolina is trading out of 8, presumably the top 4 QBs are gone, which means you'll have be guaranteed one of Sewell, Pitts, Smith, and Chase. Unless you love Slater (which I do!), I think there is a pretty clear drop off between those four guys and the next tier of weapons/O-lineman. I still think I'd opt to stay at 19 and 23 than package up, however 8 is the perfect spot to move up as you can get a tier 1 offensive talent guaranteed. 4) If we did this trade we should get at least a 4th back from Carolina this year, and ideally a third (Carolinas 8 + 3rd is still a 10 point win for them if they trade for 19 & 23) 5) Carolina doesn't make a ton of sense for Sam considering they can't really move on from Teddy this year. Sam is very cheap (~4-5mm cap charge for team trading for him), however assuming they don't exercise the 5th year option - he makes more sense for a team that has a fat salary but still in contention to win now (SF and Chicago come to mind). If I'm Carolina I'd rather keep Teddy for the additional year as the whole appeal of Sam is maybe you get 1 year of cheap production and you have the inside lane to retain him after. I just can't see Carolina giving up this much capital for a 1-year rental that won't get them into legit contention when they have a QB that is probably better right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19th, you would basically own the 1st rd with 3 picks, could move up or down , etc...worst case, you can add 3 starters, if JD does his job right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Looking at the mocks, 19 is a prime spot for one of the top cbs, pass rushers, or wrs to drop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I don't think either trade is realistic but I'd take 19 for sure. Still a premium pick and we have a lot of needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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