NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Let's face it, right now we're about as low as any team could possibly be. Being 2-14 this season IMO is far worse than 1-15 in 1996. 1997 team quickly showed it wasn't all that bad if the players had the right HC. But that all-time low in 1996 proved to be preceding a quite excellent time. Within two seasons we turned in our best regular season record in franchise history. It seemed to take something so shockingly bad for Leon to make the right hire. Any chance we're witnessing the very same thing with Chris Johnson? I might be crazy, but I'm optimistic that good things are coming the Jets way? That we're finally witnessing a successful rebuild. One that builds us into contenders.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 Would I call you crazy if you said we were going to open 5-0? SAR I 1 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 I must have accidentally hit submit topic twice? My apologies, can a moderator merge please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Would I call you crazy if you said we were going to open 5-0? SAR I Well, SAR your posts are certifiably NUTS! lol That's not what this thread is? This thread is a healthy debate wondering if the ship is headed in the right direction. Your skitzo threads when Adam Gase was the HC weren't even the close to reality....:) 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Idk, I just finished the 5th grade in 97. Don’t remember the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: I must have accidentally hit submit topic twice? My apologies, can a moderator merge please? Why..? we need double the optimism here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexVanDyke Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Teams can turn it around very quickly in this league and I agree , there is a feel that a turnaround is imminent. The odds will tell you we are due as well. That a why I laugh when the media says such and such player will prefer this team to that team because they are ahead. We were not ahead of Miami a year ago we’re we? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcJet Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said: Teams can turn it around very quickly in this league and I agree , there is a feel that a turnaround is imminent. The odds will tell you we are due as well. That a why I laugh when the media says such and such player will prefer this team to that team because they are ahead. We were not ahead of Miami a year ago we’re we? Mention 1997 and Alex shows up. ? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'm getting that vibe too. Everything went bad last year. So many injuries. We're due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexVanDyke Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Speaking of my namesake, that had to be one of the worst picks ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, NYJ1 said: Well, SAR your posts are certifiably NUTS! lol That's not what this thread is? This thread is a healthy debate wondering if the ship is headed in the right direction. Your skitzo threads when Adam Gase was the HC weren't even the close to reality....:) Yes, headed in the right direction. No, I won’t be making any predictions this year. SAR I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 maybe? In both instances we had a bad roster but even a worse coach that led to our pathetic record in 96 and 20. Parcells brought in his guys- couldn’t draft to save his life- but signed some solid vets that gave us that push to turn the corner. Salah and JD are going to build this right through the draft and smart FA signings but I hope we get similar results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 In 1997 I usually drank two 40s to pre-game a night out at the bars. Now, I drink two snobby IPAs, then fall asleep reading my kids their bedtime stories. So, yea, sort of. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Yes, headed in the right direction. No, ? I won’t be making any predictions this year. ? SAR I ? Promise ? ?.. i'm hopin' .. cheers ~ ~ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Are most of you under the age of thirty? These are the Jets. Abandon hope all ye enter here......? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If the Jets can’t turn this thing around now with the amount of draft picks and cap space they have they never will. Obviously the QB decision will be the biggest factor. I’d say they’re in good shape for the future, however I also thought for sure Sam was our franchise QB ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 That '96 team had guys on it that would go on to become core players for the Parcells years; Chrebet, Green, Glenn, Colemen, Richie Anderson, and even Keyshawn. Guys that Parcells could immediately lean on and push to lead the transition. Can anyone honestly say they see guys like that on this roster? The top guys that probably fit that mold are Maye and Crowder and the Jets look like they are letting those two guys walk. Maybe Becton or Quinnen but who the **** knows. '20 seems like it was such a crappier roster than that '96 team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, peebag said: * * * Abandon hope all ye enter here......? No worries ! ?.. ...we're here ? & we're FULL of HOPE ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 hours ago, NYJ1 said: Let's face it, right now we're about as low as any team could possibly be. Being 2-14 this season IMO is far worse than 1-15 in 1996. 1997 team quickly showed it wasn't all that bad if the players had the right HC. But that all-time low in 1996 proved to be preceding a quite excellent time. Within two seasons we turned in our best regular season record in franchise history. It seemed to take something so shockingly bad for Leon to make the right hire. Any chance we're witnessing the very same thing with Chris Johnson? I might be crazy, but I'm optimistic that good things are coming the Jets way? That we're finally witnessing a successful rebuild. One that builds us into contenders.... All we’ve done so far is trade or cut talent and loaded up on draft picks. That’s the easy part of the job. Even Izadik did that. Can we wait to see who our QB will be in 2021 before we declare it a successful rebuild after just finishing 2-14? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: That '96 team had guys on it that would go on to become core players for the Parcells years; Chrebet, Green, Glenn, Colemen, Richie Anderson, and even Keyshawn. Guys that Parcells could immediately lean on and push to lead the transition. Can anyone honestly say they see guys like that on this roster? The top guys that probably fit that mold are Maye and Crowder and the Jets look like they are letting those two guys walk. Maybe Becton or Quinnen but who the **** knows. '20 seems like it was such a crappier roster than that '96 team. Right. The 97 jets had better players. Another difference is parcells pretty much brought his staff with him. I don’t think there were any newbie coordinators and he certainly wasn’t a newbie head coach. So even though that jets team had limited on field leadership the coaches brought a whole lot of credibility. we’ll see how saleh does soon enough. He seems like he has a clue and will motivate the players. If the coordinators are on the same page then things could come together pretty quickly. Not to mention the high draft choices and salary cap should infuse the team with talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 hours ago, SAR I said: I won’t be making any predictions this year. SAR I Sounds a bit like a prediction to me ... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Question: Is this kinda like when you'd wipe out on your bike when you were a kid and then you and your friends would compare cool scabs? Answer: No! Because today's helicopter parents would never allow their kids to be kids and ride their bikes in the street! Almost gotcha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 hours ago, SAR I said: Yes, headed in the right direction. No, I won’t be making any predictions this year. SAR I This football message board suddenly became SANE! Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Integrity28 said: In 1997 I usually drank two 40s to pre-game a night out at the bars. Now, I drink two snobby IPAs, then fall asleep reading my kids their bedtime stories. So, yea, sort of. Colt 45 in a paper bag? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, peebag said: Are most of you under the age of thirty? These are the Jets. Abandon hope all ye enter here......? Shut it! This is an OPTIMISTIC thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 97 team had talent. This one doesn’t so no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: That '96 team had guys on it that would go on to become core players for the Parcells years; Chrebet, Green, Glenn, Colemen, Richie Anderson, and even Keyshawn. Guys that Parcells could immediately lean on and push to lead the transition. Can anyone honestly say they see guys like that on this roster? The top guys that probably fit that mold are Maye and Crowder and the Jets look like they are letting those two guys walk. Maybe Becton or Quinnen but who the **** knows. '20 seems like it was such a crappier roster than that '96 team. Maye, Crowder, Becton, Quinnen, Mosely (yes), Fatukasi, Jenkins (if retained, he'd be the quintessential "hold-the-fort locker room leader" guy). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 yes i feel super positive that we are going to go on a run of a few years of at least respectability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We have what, three or four young players that don’t suck on our entire roster? A bunch of crappy contracts with terrible, overpriced players that are just going through the motions for a paycheck? No franchise qb... tons of dead money paying a bunch of past tense crappy contracts. A large amount of disappointing draft busts. Light at the end of the tunnel? It looks more like we just fell in and might need divine intervention to turn this around in any reasonable timeframe. At least it seems like we have an ok coaching/GM structure but I’m not expecting miracles, there’s only so much you can do when dealing with a dumpster fire of this scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Maye, Crowder, Becton, Quinnen, Mosely (yes), Fatukasi, Jenkins (if retained, he'd be the quintessential "hold-the-fort locker room leader" guy). 2 of those guys you mentioned are not under contract anymore This is nothing like 97. That team has talent all over the roster. This team has like 4 good players and they are about to cut crowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Integrity28 said: In 1997 I usually drank two 40s to pre-game a night out at the bars. Now, I drink two snobby IPAs, then fall asleep reading my kids their bedtime stories. So, yea, sort of. In 1997 I was reading bedtime stories now I’m drinking two 40’s and falling asleep by halftime. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, bitonti said: 2 of those guys you mentioned are not under contract anymore This is nothing like 97. That team has talent all over the roster. This team has like 4 good players and they are about to cut crowder It’s crazy to think how spot on and accurate that statement is. Makes one miss hyperbole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hael said: We have what, three or four young players that don’t suck on our entire roster? A bunch of crappy contracts with terrible, overpriced players that are just going through the motions for a paycheck? No franchise qb... tons of dead money paying a bunch of past tense crappy contracts. A large amount of disappointing draft busts. Light at the end of the tunnel? It looks more like we just fell in and might need divine intervention to turn this around in any reasonable timeframe. At least it seems like we have an ok coaching/GM structure but I’m not expecting miracles, there’s only so much you can do when dealing with a dumpster fire of this scale. A bunch of crappy contracts? We have 1 bad contract with Mosley. Other than that JD has kept the cap wide open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Booty Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 In 1997, I was slapping them booties all over the damn place. Hell, I still am. OP might have a point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We had a real core of good players and we hired a historically great coaching staff that was proven. I don't think we have the core of good players and it's way too early to know if we have a historically good coaching staff. Sam is probably a better option to make a good throw with the playoffs on the line than Leon Johnson so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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