GreekJet Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Like most I was very excited when the Jets drafted him. Given his age I was prepared for some rookie struggles. I just wanted him to hold his head above water and show some positive momentum his rookie year. His rookie year met my expectations and I was looking forward to a year two jump under an established offensive coach. I recall the beat writers talking Sam up during training camp in 2019. By all accounts he has an excellent preseason and was positioned for uptick in production. Obviously with the Mono and oline crumbling around him that did not happen. I still felt okay about him heading into this season, but after his performance in week 1 I was off the bandwagon for good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 He has regressed since his rookie season. I had high hopes for him but as the years went on they diminished. Hoping like hell if he remains he can turn it around and be that franchise QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 When Adam Gase got a job. 17 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, joewilly12 said: He has regressed since his rookie season. I had high hopes for him but as the years went on they diminished. Hoping like hell if he remains he can turn it around and be that franchise QB. You can argue he has regressed since his RS freshman year at USC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post slimjasi Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 When I saw how poorly he played on opening day of his 3rd season. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grandy Posted February 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2021 Ghosts game did a lot of damage, but he rebounded and I had some hope. Him throwing a cross body pick into double coverage week 1 this season was the final blow. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 When I realized his deep ball is terrible, inaccurate and weak , never hit anyone in stride, only looked good because robbed went up and got the ball everytime! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, slimjasi said: When I saw how poorly he played on opening day of his 3rd season. Oh the season with no preseason and COVID?? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 When Dorsey picked Mayfield ahead of him. I was absolutely shocked Mayfield went ahead of Darnold. It screamed red flag. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Right after the first 3 drives of the opener this year. I went into this year thinking this was the year he took the next step, after the first 3 drives I knew it was over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 The mono diagnosis. Dude is just a sad-sack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I haven't. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 At home to the Bills this year. Right up until that game, I still believed. That gamem the Jets actually played well for a half. Jumped out to a 10-0 lead but Darnold still looked terrible. Ended up 12/23, 120 yards, 2 picks. As bad as Sam looked in games around then, his look and body language in post-game interviews betrayed a guy that was mentally beaten down and resigned to his fate. It sucks. I loved Sam coming out, was convinced he was the 'guy. I jumped on the Zach Wilson bandwagon fairly early in October, but after Darnold, I don't fully trust my ability to judge another QB. Not that it really matters what I think on an internet board. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 This is a great question. I was on the Sam bandwagon for a very long time and it took a lot before I lost faith. I really think he was better his rookie year than he was this year. The Jets did a number on this poor kid. With that said, it was one point this year, I can't remember the game but it was probably mid-season. He had a reasonable amount of time all game.. and he just threw some awful passes - and at one point they were still in the game...he had time in the pocket and threw the ball into triple coverage - for seemingly no reason at all. It was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen. No matter what, at that point in his career he shouldn't be making such a bad choice. That's when I lost faith. I actually think he might be able to find some success somewhere else, but do believe he has to sit somewhere for a year to regain some semblance of confidence - he's mentally shot right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I haven't. I still he's a franchise QB in the making. I think the Jets are a completely incompetent clusterf*ck, but that's not Sammys fault. I think the Jets should go all in with Sammy and give him the supporting cast he has deserved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 When he beat the 2019 Cowboys and then got drunk after the game and the tabloids picked up the story. Up until that point they were 0 and 4. The following week they got shutout by the Patriots 33-0. I knew then he was not a leader of men and just an immature entitled QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 He has regressed and looks bad no doubt and the jet will probably make a change but I'd love to see the guy play on a team with an oline, with #1 Wr not called perriman or hogan and an offense that is far worse than anything you see in college or the any pro team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Paradis said: When Adam Gase got a job. This. Never lost faith in his abilities, just the system he was in and lack of support around him. Unfortunately now it makes no financial sense to retain him. Draft the next guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Intial worry? At Jacksonville, in person, during Darnold's rookie season. The Bortles career day game. Darnold was dreadful. Multiple missed receivers. Final straw? Week 1, 1st quarter of 2020 versus Buffalo. Darnold missed several open guys. Both by not seeing them, and some he saw and threw frighteningly inaccurate balls. Buh-bye... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Especially with our history with USC QBs who had not played all that much, did not understand the pick. Although I gave him a shot to prove my instincts wrong, first year showed me Darnold was a JAG at best. The rest is what it is: 13-25, 45 TDs/39 INTs. 39 INTs in less than three full seasons for crissake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mike135 said: I haven't. Neither have I, however I've lost what little I had with the Jets over his tenure. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I went to see the Jets play the Chargers here in San Diego on September 19, 2004. In that game Drew Brees did not look like he could ever be a good QB. He was just awful, had no arm, and was clearly out played by Pennington. He was even pulled in the end of the game for Doug Flutie. I thought to myself then that Brees was just one of the worst NFL QBs I had ever seen. 16 years later he is a surefire HOF QB. So, there is still a possiblity than Sam develops into an elite QB. He has the talent. He is still super young. He seemed to be coachable under Bowles. I have been an ardent supporter of his. BUT Somewhere around mid-season I just looked at Sam and realized that he was just bad, He has no confidence, is not dynamic at all, and looks completely lost. He stopped learning from his mistakes. So it is time to move on. But like Brees, there is a possibility that he becomes an elite QB somewhere else. Interesting note about that game..Brees got a concussion. After it being diagnosed as a concussion Marty told him essentially to rub some dirt on it and sent him back out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I never had faith in Darnold. Faith is for Church. Football warrants objective analysis. Darnold failed that test before he ever got to the Pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Especially with our history with USC QBs who had not played all that much, did not understand the pick. Although I gave him a shot to prove my instincts wrong, first year showed me Darnold was a JAG at best. The rest is what it is: 13-25, 45 TDs/39 INTs. 39 INTs in less than three full seasons for crissake. Good point but it took Vinny just 15 games in his 2nd season to net 35 picks if you count the 4 games he played in year 1 he threw 41 in total.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 The way he lost the opener against Buffalo missing a wide open Robby Anderson twice I knew he was done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I'm still a fan. It's hard to not like him but with all the events that happened this season, it is just time to restart at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Good point but it took Vinny just 15 games in his 2nd season to net 35 picks if you count the 4 games he played in year 1 he threw 41 in total.. I was never a Vinny fan until that magical 1998 season. The guy played out of his mind, as did the rest of the team. Heartbreaking ending to that season only to be superseded by Vinny blowing out his Achilles in 1999. We all thought that was going to finally be "the year". That said, on his best day, I don't think Darnold could shine Vinny's shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: I was never a Vinny fan until that magical 1998 season. The guy played out of his mind, as did the rest of the team. Heartbreaking ending to that season only to be superseded by Vinny blowing out his Achilles in 1999. We all thought that was going to finally be "the year". That said, on his best day, I don't think Darnold could shine Vinny's shoes. How can you compare the teams they played on?? Not to mention by 1998 Vinny was a 12 year veteran.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I actually had a lot of faith in Sam at the end of 2019. Gase and his scheme were abhorrent and so was the OL. He bounced back from mono a d the ghost game. Once I saw how JD handled Robbie and the offseason, I knew another season under Gase and the worst offensive weaponry in the league would probably wreck his season and career projection. It’s exactly what happened 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Savage69 said: How can you compare the teams they played on?? Not to mention by 1998 Vinny was a 12 year veteran.. I'm not. Just went off on a tangent about Vinny and that '98 team. Almost every player on this year's squad would have had no shot to make that team. I appreciate that Darnold is going into his fourth season. What I don't appreciate is his level of play so far. As far as I'm concerned (and WTF do I know anyway?), we should move on from the kid. I'm willing to stand by that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 When Gase turned up, he regressed so quickly it’s like he’s in reverse. Time for a change of scenery for the kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The mono diagnosis. Dude is just a sad-sack. Oddly enough it did feel like the beginning of the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: The mono diagnosis. Dude is just a sad-sack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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