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8 hours ago, David Harris said:

Creed Humphrey is a guy I always see ranked high but his profile reads more as a mauler as opposed to the agile guys sought in a wide zone blocking scheme?  Does he fit the offense we're going to run?

I thought the same thing and then this happened:

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One of the things that jumped out at me in the PFF piece was their mention of Kendrick Green out of Illinois. Not a guy at 23 or 34 but 6'4, 315, second team All American and first team All Big Ten, e

For 2022 Draft - put him at LG next to Becton: Scouts are high on Christian Darrisaw. They like his frame, his ability to bend and his lateral quickness. A three-year starter at Virginia Tech,

I think my pick at 23 now, if he is available would be Teven Jenkins. I think someone that can be a day 1 starter at guard, with the possibility of replacing Fant at RT in the future is the best way t

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9 hours ago, David Harris said:

I think Creed will be there. Pass rushers galore will be available. I think the C slides.

It will be interesting to see what JD will value more if one his top oline and dline prospect slips to him at #23.

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1 hour ago, Jdub03 said:

It will be interesting to see what JD will value more if one his top oline and dline prospect slips to him at #23.

It totally will. It won’t be a popular opinion but I go Edge - they’re too valuable. Then switch to OL and get two of them in rounds 2-4

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12 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:


Heres another target I would take at 34. Take the edge or cb at 23 then one of these guys at 34

He’s so injury prone but the talent is spectacular.

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20 hours ago, Suffering since 77 said:

I highly doubt he'll make it to our second round pick , might have to take him @23. I could live with that. We need more picks lol.

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I was about to ask if people think he'll make 34.

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I think we might be lucky & could get him in the 3rd. I believe he has / had injuries. I like Creed, & would love to get him in the second. Creed was a captain, strong, and has wrestling experience. (Traits JD loves). I just want a good center that fits this system.

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55 minutes ago, football guy said:

Liam Eichenberg had a solid pro day considering he's a guy no one expected to test very well. His agility scores were off the charts, which is a good indicator/projection into the wide zone. He fits the profile of a player who's likely to switch to G in the NFL, but he can be a damn good one and has been coached up really well. I'd keep my eye on him. 

He's just really solid all around, though to find a real weakness in his game, would love to have him at RT. Sf has one of those ND lineman and he's pretty good.

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6 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said:

He's just really solid all around, though to find a real weakness in his game, would love to have him at RT. Sf has one of those ND lineman and he's pretty good.

Best comp I have for him is Braden Smith (IND). Very similar composed aggression and athletic profile except Braden was the rare case of a college RG-turned-pro RT. I agree with you in that he’s probably a RT long-term, but short-term I would imagine the Jets would utilize him at G. George Fant is better than he’s given credit for and should only get better in this scheme.

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On 2/20/2021 at 7:51 AM, Columbia Jet Fan said:

One name at tackle I think they could take is Sam Cosmi. Hes pretty ideal for the scheme and if he can add more muscle mass could be a pro bowl level player. A wildcard at OT is Walker Little from Stanford, who was projected to be a top 10 pick but tore his ACL in 2019 and opted out in 2020. If he is around at 34, or with a mid 2nd round pick via a Darnold trade or move back - I think he is a good risk reward profile, especially if we are able to address some of the other positions of need (IOL, WR, Edge, CB) in FA and earlier picks. 

This guy had a ridiculous workout and I'm curious what the rest of the board thinks. Incredible athleticism and seems to fit the scheme perfectly. 

He also had 36 BP reps.

I am trying to find arm length info, but haven't - which might mean he's a guard at the next level? 

Any insight or thoughts?

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2 hours ago, football guy said:

Best comp I have for him is Braden Smith (IND). Very similar composed aggression and athletic profile except Braden was the rare case of a college RG-turned-pro RT. I agree with you in that he’s probably a RT long-term, but short-term I would imagine the Jets would utilize him at G. George Fant is better than he’s given credit for and should only get better in this scheme.

Just curious. Does Chuma Edoga fit in the new scheme?  Is he just considered a swing OT? 

I recall when he was drafted some thought he could, in time, slide inside to OG. 

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32 minutes ago, C Mart said:

Just curious. Does Chuma Edoga fit in the new scheme?  Is he just considered a swing OT? 

I recall when he was drafted some thought he could, in time, slide inside to OG. 

He does. Most of the scheme fits for Gase's scheme will fit in the new scheme, the Shanahan style-wide zone is just easier for players to execute than Gase's inside-outside zone. 

One thing I'll say about Gase: it's unfortunate he was such a stubborn coach because he does know what to look for and has an eye for talent. Edoga hasn't been great, but he's the type of player that I think could surprise people in year 4-5 whether its with us or another team. Can't teach his quickness. 

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3 hours ago, football guy said:

He does. Most of the scheme fits for Gase's scheme will fit in the new scheme, the Shanahan style-wide zone is just easier for players to execute than Gase's inside-outside zone. 

One thing I'll say about Gase: it's unfortunate he was such a stubborn coach because he does know what to look for and has an eye for talent. Edoga hasn't been great, but he's the type of player that I think could surprise people in year 4-5 whether its with us or another team. Can't teach his quickness. 

His game in 2019, vs the Cowboys was exceptional.  I thought I was seeing the Jets future at RT.  Edoga played 100% of the offensive snaps that game, he matched up against DeMarcus Lawrence (who played about 72% of Dallas' defensive snaps) and held Lawrence to 2 tackles, 0 TFL, 0 sacks and 0 QB pressures.

I was thinking that at worst Edoga would be a starting OG or high-end backup swing tackle.  Perhaps he still can be?

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We all know the Jets need immediate starters on the line, especially on the interior. I really like positionally versatility for the short term and the idea of taking someone early we can throw at OG to transition to RT next year resonates with me. Regardless we need to continue to develop that pipeline. Trying to uncover some late round prospects that might be good fits. Here are some players I am looking at and wanted to hear your thoughts:

  • Kayode Awosika, OT Buffalo (I'm alumni so would be cool to support him in the pros)
  • Drew Dalman, OC Stanford 
  • David Moore, OG Grambling 
  • Tommy Doyle, OT Miami (OH)
  • Tristen Hoge, BYU

Who are some others you guys are looking at?

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6 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

This makes sense.   Offensive linemen are different than other positions because they can be moved around a lot easier than a Wr can.  You can draft a tackle, if he doesn’t work out maybe move him to guard.  You can draft a center, he can move to guard and vice versa.   You draft a WR, he has to play WR for the most part.  Makes sense OL may have the lowest bust rates.  

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43 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

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I didn’t think he was as athletic as he tested but if they hang at 23 maybe they should just make it happen and kick McGovern to guard.

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On 2/19/2021 at 11:47 AM, derp said:

One of the things that jumped out at me in the PFF piece was their mention of Kendrick Green out of Illinois. Not a guy at 23 or 34 but 6'4, 315, second team All American and first team All Big Ten, experience playing guard and center, graded out really well on PFF on outside zone plays. Think those are the kinds of guys they'll be targeting, plus a FA upgrade or two. The Linsley and kick McGovern to guard move makes a lot of sense.

Vera-Tucker is my favorite guy you listed by a wide margin and I'd be thrilled if they drafted him but don't think he makes it to 23.

Curious of others opinions, is this the best guard prospect for our scheme? If so, is 34 too high? 

Genuinely wondering if this guy moved up some of your boards after posting such good numbers. 

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13 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

Curious of others opinions, is this the best guard prospect for our scheme? If so, is 34 too high? 

Genuinely wondering if this guy moved up some of your boards after posting such good numbers. 

Would love him at 66 - specifically for o-line I think trading back from 23 and trying to get two 2nds is the move. Gives us a chance to double dip at guys like Leatherwood/Humphrey/Dickerson/Green/Meyers/Echtenberg/Walker Little - If a Vera-Tucker is there no issue with taking him - but I don't think there is much of a drop off on the IOL after that and would love to have two swings at them. 

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On 4/2/2021 at 8:35 AM, Rhg1084 said:

 

With very few exceptions nobody wants to pay big $$$ to RBs.   McCaffrey, Elliott and soon to be Saquon are in the minority of guys likely sticking for second deals.

Also, does this mean if we take Creed Humphrey he's guaranteed to be a hit? :P

 

 

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4 hours ago, Bay Ridge Jet said:

What happened to Wyatt Davis from OSU? I feel like I’ve heard nothing about him 

Davis said he has spent the past few months working on continuing to improve his technique, and he felt that showed on Tuesday as he went through a workout that included bag-striking drills, movement drills and simulated blocking situations.

“It was all drills sent from the NFL coaches themselves, what they wanted to see, and it was all short change of direction, which I think is stuff that is really important for my position specifically, because we work within a short space,” Davis said. “So I feel like my change of direction was something that I really showed off today.”

Davis, a two-time All-American right guard at Ohio State who has been projected as a second- or third-round pick in most mock drafts this spring, was also pleased with his performance on the bench press, where the 6-foot-4, 315-pound guard with 33 7/8-inch arms put up 25 reps of 225 pounds.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2021/03/122007/wyatt-davis-knee-perfectly-fine-at-pro-day-after-he-battled-through-injury-in-final-season-at-ohio-state

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1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

With very few exceptions nobody wants to pay big $$$ to RBs.   McCaffrey, Elliott and soon to be Saquon are in the minority of guys likely sticking for second deals.

Also, does this mean if we take Creed Humphrey he's guaranteed to be a hit? :P

 

 

Also,Creed can play G. I honestly think he's gonna go in the 1st.

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12 hours ago, section314 said:

Also,Creed can play G. I honestly think he's gonna go in the 1st.

I recently read that he is studying Nick Mangold's game. If we draft him and he can bring what Nick brought, that would be a homerun. 

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12 hours ago, section314 said:

Also,Creed can play G. I honestly think he's gonna go in the 1st.

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We knew this class was good, but all these elite metrics? It's really hard to believe. Lack of a combine really puts a bit of an asterisk on these scores. Not saying they aren't athletic...just questioning all elite scores popping up. For instance guys like Meinerz (I know many on here love him) were supposed to be better in a phone booth, but now he's graded out elite...

Which guys do you believe the tape matches up?

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People in the Jets FO are coming away pretty convinced that OL will be the direction the Jets will* go to with their second 1st round pick pick. The sentiment is that Douglas is sincere about wanting to protect Wilson the way he had hoped to protect Sam. Very good chance they trade up, with the LAC (#13), MIN (#14), LV (#17), WAS (#19), CHI (#20), IND (#21), and TEN (#22) all in the market for OL. Jets wanted #8 from Carolina in the Sam trade, both teams haven't ruled out further discussions for that pick. #12 seems like a spot that could make sense with PHI in a full-blown rebuild and the obvious front office ties. 

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