Governor Murphy joins Moose and Maggie tomorrow for sports announcement

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

18 hours ago, DetroitRed said:

The combination of vaccinations and confirmed infections is quickly ending the pandemic.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

12 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

In the interest of safety, Flight Crew should dress up as nurses and offer vaccine shots to any fans in attendance. 

Could convince some anti-vax folks to get it.

Hell I'd get a shot every game.

[joewilly12]

NY Jets in conjunction with J&J offer the vaccinations as a promotional day. 

Sign me up. 

[32EBoozer]

19 hours ago, Maxman said:

No but part of the reason we upgraded the site is because of the new traffic that will be coming in. Hot intel says the Jets are trading for Watson. I have that and was asked to keep it private, which is why I am sending this as a private message and not posting it on the main forum.

Should be fun, go Jets.

Could you imagine the volume of posts if a Watson trade gets announced?! This event would shatter daily, & montly record volumes. You would have to put @Sperm Edwards on a word limit/post and place @T0mShane under supervision for real boner pant photos!

If you got .10 for every post you'd have a very nice yearly bonus.

[kelticwizard]

18 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

Better be a full capacity crowd week 1! Enough of this lockdown bs. Florida has no restrictions whatsoever and have better covid number than NYC!

Please do not post false information.

In the past week, 1,127 people Covid patients died in Florida. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida

Also in the past week, in New York State (including NY City), 928 Covid patients died.  https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york

You are way off.

This thing is clearly coming to an end in a few months, let's not slack off on the safety now.

 

[Maxman]

2 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Could you imagine the volume of posts if a Watson trade gets announced?! This event would shatter daily, & montly record volumes. You would have to put @Sperm Edwards on a word limit/post and place @T0mShane under supervision for real boner pant photos!

If you got .10 for every post you'd have a very nice yearly bonus.

I agree with almost everything you wrote. One small clarification, @T0mShane is already under the supervision that you suggested. I am told he is making progress and that Project Pinocchio will soon be a success. He is a real boy after all.

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, Dcat said:

vaccinations are moving very slowly in NJ.  My county (Sussex) offers 75 vaccines, I kid you not... I did not leave out any zero's,  75 per week.   Finally got myself and wife an appointment via RiteAid in PA for March 5th and 6th.  

We are in our 60's and it has been a royal PIA trying to get the vaccine.

We are on the Atlantic Health list and I received an email with a code to get an appointment but it was sent the afternoon and I didn't see it until next morning and the code had expired.  Why not text me where I will see it faster?  Geez.  

 

The roll out is a disaster. I am getting my first shot on Wednesday but getting them is impossible. My daughter has helped 10 people get appointments, she is figuring out how the system works. But it isn't easy.

[Maxman]

3 minutes ago, kelticwizard said:

Please do not post false information.

In the past week, 1,127 people Covid patients died in Florida. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida

Also in the past week, in New York State (including NY City), 928 Covid patients died.  https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york

You are way off.

This thing is clearly coming to an end in a few months, let's not slack off on the safety now.

 

Agreed, hopefully people don't let up.  I know someone in NJ that died from Covid this week and have had several conversations with someone that lost a healthy sibling earlier in the pandemic. It serves as a reminder that this thing is real but hopefully the good news keeps happening.

[DetroitRed]

16 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR26iMArfi8uUSzdaVH29YVn1xypEMsU64QFCAFcbDBhWfZkj_IqNXmKx9k

[Maxman]

3 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR26iMArfi8uUSzdaVH29YVn1xypEMsU64QFCAFcbDBhWfZkj_IqNXmKx9k

It won't let me read it without a subscription but I have seen that on Facebook. Somebody posted the full article, that would be great news.

Either way if they are wrong I am feeling so good that I don't think they will be wrong by much. Herd immunity by April 2021 vs July 2021, either scenario is a good one at this point in time!

[Sperm Edwards]

29 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Could you imagine the volume of posts if a Watson trade gets announced?! This event would shatter daily, & montly record volumes. You would have to put @Sperm Edwards on a word limit/post and place @T0mShane under supervision for real boner pant photos!

If you got .10 for every post you'd have a very nice yearly bonus.

Crap, I didn't think of that. 

[SayNoToDMC]

1 hour ago, Mike135 said:

In the interest of safety, Flight Crew should dress up as nurses and offer vaccine shots to any fans in attendance. 

Could convince some anti-vax folks to get it.

Hell I'd get a shot every game.

Probably not, but I haven't seen the squad this year. I'm much more easily influenced in person.

Also wouldn't call myself anti-vax. I'm just letting you all guinie pig something this rushed for me as a generally healthy person(outside alcohol, coke binges, overweight, stupid, Jets fan)

[Mike135]

1 minute ago, SayNoToDMC said:

Probably not, but I haven't seen the squad this year. I'm much more easily influenced in person 

Fair enough.  We should be inclusive. 

Maybe have some players dress up as nurses too for those with alternative tastes.

Becton in a sexy nurse outfit could appeal to some.

[SayNoToDMC]

6 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Fair enough.  We should be inclusive. 

Maybe have some players dress up as nurses too for those with alternative tastes.

Becton in a sexy nurse outfit could appeal to some.

I might risk it if somebody could convince Becton. You'd have to sew together 10 sexy nurse outfits into some sort of Frankenstein creation to fit him

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

5 hours ago, Maxman said:

It won't let me read it without a subscription but I have seen that on Facebook. Somebody posted the full article, that would be great news.

Either way if they are wrong I am feeling so good that I don't think they will be wrong by much. Herd immunity by April 2021 vs July 2021, either scenario is a good one at this point in time!

We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April

Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.

 

 

By Marty Makary

Feb. 18, 2021 12:35 pm ET

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Amid the dire Covid warnings, one crucial fact has been largely ignored: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks. If a medication slashed cases by 77%, we’d call it a miracle pill. Why is the number of cases plummeting much faster than experts predicted?

In large part because natural immunity from prior infection is far more common than can be measured by testing. Testing has been capturing only from 10% to 25% of infections, depending on when during the pandemic someone got the virus. Applying a time-weighted case capture average of 1 in 6.5 to the cumulative 28 million confirmed cases would mean about 55% of Americans have natural immunity.

 

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Now add people getting vaccinated. As of this week, 15% of Americans have received the vaccine, and the figure is rising fast. Former Food and Drug Commissioner Scott Gottlieb estimates 250 million doses will have been delivered to some 150 million people by the end of March.

There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection. As more people have been infected, most of whom have mild or no symptoms, there are fewer Americans left to be infected. At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.

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Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.

Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells.

Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. would also suggest much broader immunity than recognized. About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%. These numbers indicate that roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population has had the infection.

In my own conversations with medical experts, I have noticed that they too often dismiss natural immunity, arguing that we don’t have data. The data certainly doesn’t fit the classic randomized-controlled-trial model of the old-guard medical establishment. There’s no control group. But the observational data is compelling.

I have argued for months that we could save more American lives if those with prior Covid-19 infection forgo vaccines until all vulnerable seniors get their first dose. Several studies demonstrate that natural immunity should protect those who had Covid-19 until more vaccines are available. Half my friends in the medical community told me: Good idea. The other half said there isn’t enough data on natural immunity, despite the fact that reinfections have occurred in less than 1% of people—and when they do occur, the cases are mild.

But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in.

My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.

Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea. But herd immunity is the inevitable result of viral spread and vaccination. When the chain of virus transmission has been broken in multiple places, it’s harder for it to spread—and that includes the new strains.

Herd immunity has been well-documented in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where researchers in the Lancet reported the prevalence of prior Covid-19 infection to be 76%, resulting in a significant slowing of the infection. Doctors are watching a new strain that threatens to evade prior immunity. But countries where new variants have emerged, such as the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, are also seeing significant declines in daily new cases. The risk of new variants mutating around the prior vaccinated or natural immunity should be a reminder that Covid-19 will persist for decades after the pandemic is over. It should also instill a sense of urgency to develop, authorize and administer a vaccine targeted to new variants.

Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices.

Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, chief medical adviser to Sesame Care, and author of “The Price We Pay.”

[TokyoJetsFan]

Alabama is set to host FULL crowds during football games in 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9317311/Alabama-set-host-crowds-101-000-seat-Bryant-Denny-Stadium-2021-football-season.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

 

 

Alabama is set to host full crowds at football games in 2021

College football's reigning champions scored an off-season victory as the University of Alabama announced that full crowds will be permitted at 101,000-seat Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2021.

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[TokyoJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

Alabama is set to host FULL crowds during football games in 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9317311/Alabama-set-host-crowds-101-000-seat-Bryant-Denny-Stadium-2021-football-season.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

 

 

Alabama is set to host full crowds at football games in 2021

College football's reigning champions scored an off-season victory as the University of Alabama announced that full crowds will be permitted at 101,000-seat Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2021.

dailymail.co.uk

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 COVID-19 4 hours ago
Texas and Mississippi lift mask mandates and say all businesses can open at 100% capacity, as health officials warn not to ease restrictions

 

...so I guess Texans and Cowboys will be able to have full crowds as well...

[jetophile]

I've said this before, but I find her unlistenable strictly because of her profuse overuse, misuse, and abuse of the word like. It's brutal. Points for the sentence before last. I felt like I was on the receiving end my bitch 5th grade teacher who would say things with shaking jowls LIKE, "You are rude, crude, and unattractive!"

[jetophile]

Double post, just shoot me twice.