Philc1 14,237 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? 2 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 23,356 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Because they aren’t? I’m so confused. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Samtorobby47 5,141 Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 Who the hell is saying that? Teams didn't even know Watson and Mahomes were what they are when they were drafted. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Biggs 10,701 Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? If Sam is the next Watson or Mahomes why did we draft Adams when we needed a QB and both Watson and Mahomes were available? 1 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oatmeal 1,137 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? If Sam is the better why will the offers for him start at a 2 and Wilson or Fields would command that and more? If Sam is a future stud why can’t we just trade him st8 up for Watson? I mean he only won 4 games like some around here like to say Who would command the better offers? Sam or Wilson, Fields? So many questions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,237 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Who the hell is saying that? Teams didn't even know Watson and Mahomes were what they are when they were drafted. But I’m hearing these comparisons of Wilson and Mahomes. The Texans could get rid of Watson’s contract and get a way better qb back why not? What’s the hold up? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdels62 8,493 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 142,098 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: But I’m hearing these comparisons of Wilson and Mahomes. Phil where Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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HawkeyeJet 11,294 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: But I’m hearing these comparisons of Wilson and Mahomes. The Texans could get rid of Watson’s contract and get a way better qb back why not? What’s the hold up? I'm not saying you aren't hearing that (I've seen it too) or even that you believe it, but the Wilson hype has just gotten ridiculous lately. The most common comps I see for him are Rodgers or Mahomes, which is ridiculous. Lots of people base it off "arm talent" which is crazy. The only thing more overhyped than Wilson in general is how strong his arm is 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adoni Beast 4,541 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Mahomes and Watson weren’t viewed as a can’t missed elite prospects coming out. In the end, it’s all about potential....player skill set + system your team is designed to run. Houston isn’t even looking to trade Watson. They’re still trying to save face and keep him... because at the end of the day....having Deshaun Watson is better than drafting someone who could possibly be as good as him. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 25,478 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Phil where In his head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,237 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Mahomes and Watson weren’t viewed as a can’t missed elite prospects coming out. In the end, it’s all about potential....player skill set + system your team is designed to run. Houston isn’t even looking to trade Watson. They’re still trying to save face and keep him... because at the end of the day....having Deshaun Watson is better than drafting someone who could possibly be as good as him. The hype for Fields and Wilson is way more than what the hype was for Watson and Mahomes. Watson has publicly expressed interest in coming here. If we can offer a young QB that is better than Pat Mahomes on a rookie scale contract why isn’t Jack Easterby stalking JD now to get this deal done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 23,356 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, Philc1 said: But I’m hearing these comparisons of Wilson and Mahomes. The Texans could get rid of Watson’s contract and get a way better qb back why not? What’s the hold up? That doesn’t mean they think he’ll be Mahomes he won’t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adoni Beast 4,541 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The hype for Fields and Wilson is way more than what the hype was for Watson and Mahomes. Watson has publicly expressed interest in coming here. If we can offer a young QB that is better than Pat Mahomes on a rookie scale contract why isn’t Jack Easterby stalking JD now to get this deal done? Because I don’t think anyone in the league actually believes that Wilson or Fields will be anywhere good as Watson. Neither one will be. This is all media fabrication, and this is coming from a big Wilson fan. But he’s not on a Deshaun Watson level. In fact, the Jaguars will be LUCKY if Trevor Lawrence is anywhere near as good as Watson. That’s how good Watson is. Jets had their chance at Watson coming out of college, no trade up, nothing....they took a fast linebacker who can’t cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samtorobby47 5,141 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The hype for Fields and Wilson is way more than what the hype was for Watson and Mahomes. Watson has publicly expressed interest in coming here. If we can offer a young QB that is better than Pat Mahomes on a rookie scale contract why isn’t Jack Easterby stalking JD now to get this deal done? Probably because in reality, nobody actually believes such a thing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 16,975 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 32 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? Because no one is saying this? So you haven’t made a point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreekJet 943 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If Mahomes and Watson were the next Mahomes and Watson why did the Bears draft Trubisky? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post 68JET11 1,097 Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 You guys need to stop living in the past, and get with the present. We had sh*tty GM's that didn't draft either of those 2 guys... It's done revisionist history. Stop wallowing in the fact we didn't get it done then and get with the current GM and new coaches on what they may determine the best course of action will be. If they decide to trade for Watson, or draft at #2 roll with it and let the chips fall where they may be. Not one of us on this board has a crystal ball to determine what's going to happen, otherwise we'd be employed by one of the 32 teams in the GM position. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undertow 728 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 This sh*t happens every year before the draft...people are convinced that names they hear in the media constantly are sure things. I mean after the championship game everyone wanted to draft Devonta Smith with the 2nd pick and now I haven't hear his name mentioned in months....people are sheep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeddEY 263,107 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 36 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? If Mahomes was going to be Mahomes, why didn't everyone trade up to #1 overall for him? If Brady was going to be Brady, why did he make it to the 6th round? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPitch 2,546 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 40 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? Because watson is a KNOWN good qb. The second is a mystery. Why is this concept so difficult for half this board?????? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68JET11 1,097 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Because watson is a KNOWN good qb. The second is a mystery. Why is this concept so difficult for half this board?????? Because this team is not ONE good player away from competing. We have other important positions to fill, like MOST of them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68JET11 1,097 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Because watson is a KNOWN good qb. The second is a mystery. Why is this concept so difficult for half this board?????? 1 minute ago, 68JET11 said: Because this team is not ONE good player away from competing. We have other important positions to fill, like MOST of them. To add to that, when you're building a new building, do you start with the CEO office, or the foundation first ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greensleeves 1,133 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 16 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Because I don’t think anyone in the league actually believes that Wilson or Fields will be anywhere good as Watson. Neither one will be. This is all media fabrication, and this is coming from a big Wilson fan. But he’s not on a Deshaun Watson level. In fact, the Jaguars will be LUCKY if Trevor Lawrence is anywhere near as good as Watson. That’s how good Watson is. Jets had their chance at Watson coming out of college, no trade up, nothing....they took a fast linebacker who can’t cover. They have a very good chance of being as good as Watson. Wilson is more highly regarded than Watson was when he came out. I think it's incorrect to say no-one thinks they will. No-one knows yet. They have a very good chance, just need to prove it. If people thought Watson was going to be so good he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. Wilson will be going #2 overall most likely which leads me to believe several teams think he has all the tools to be as good as Watson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 4,169 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? Because maccagnan doesn’t work for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 23,356 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, rangerous said: Because maccagnan doesn’t work for them? *Bill O’Brian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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maury77 3,053 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: I'm not saying you aren't hearing that (I've seen it too) or even that you believe it, but the Wilson hype has just gotten ridiculous lately. The most common comps I see for him are Rodgers or Mahomes, which is ridiculous. Lots of people base it off "arm talent" which is crazy. The only thing more overhyped than Wilson in general is how strong his arm is Mahomes can't carry Wilson's jockstrap. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,533 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: Why isn’t Houston offering us Watson straight up for the 2nd pick overall and throw in late round picks? This is a dumb question. His value is worth more than that? Period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,533 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I've heard the comparisons, but it's still a dumb question. Market values sure things more than unknowns which ALL draft picks are. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freestater 13,121 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 ...then Darnold is the next Hackenberg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nycdan 21,112 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: Hey, man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronx 1,105 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Thel "420 day" is on 4/20. Stop smoking weed until.then please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SAR I 14,558 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 8 hours ago, Philc1 said: If Fields and Wilson are the next Watson and Mahomes then.... ....Sam Darnold is Christian Hackenberg. Wait. SAR I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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