SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Take out our #2 and Q and this works. No need for all that. Seattle is dumb, they traded for Jamal. JD can pull off some masterful trade that they'll accept without Quinnen. I'm all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I want Wilson, but Zach rather than a 33 year old. But there would be something deliciously funny about the Jets publicly offering Seattle their Jamal Adams picks back for Russell Wilson. Seattle would say no, but to see the Twitter reaction from @Prez would be the greatest moment in Jets fan's history since the overtime versus the Pats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Take out our #2 and Q and this works. No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: I've admired him as a player for a long time but do we really want someone his age and making his money playing QB on our team? I think not. I'm concerned about the "it's someone else's fault" vibe. And do we want to be reading about him and his wife on Page 6 every day? That would be annoying, I think. I want him. He can play, he's 32, will give you the 5 years you want and taking him away from Seattle will make the 1 we got from them better than our 1. What do we hear or care about his wife? Did we her about Melos wife? Overrated noise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, JiF said: Man, teams are weird and I swear, it's like they never learn there lesson. Who you want to hang your hat on, Russ or 70 year old Pete Carroll who was a perennial loser in the NFL and cheater in college before Russ came to the rescue. Below .500 until he got to Seattle, have only missed the playoffs 1 since, and they were still 9-7. Look at BB and the Pats. They're ****ed because they chose a perennial loser over the guy who brought them glory. Unfortunately, the Jets never take advantage of these situations. So that's fun! Seattle hasn’t made it past the divisional round since 2014. Inexcusable. Carroll should have been long gone already with his archaic offense and lousy defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I'm sure I'm in the minority here - but given the cost to acquire him and the state of our roster I wouldn't do this. Assuming he will cost the #2 pick, and 2 of #23 and our 1s next + more... RW's contract expires after 2023 season, which means we'd have three years to build around him before signing him to a new mega deal as a best case scenario. Don't know what his cap hit would be with the Jets b/c it always changes based on what the team trading him has to eat - but even is its subsidized and in the high 20mms I can't see us building a competitor in that window unless JD completely changes his philosophy and starts signing more 1-2 year deals at high #s for established veterans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Take out our #2 and Q and this works. Love to see the brain dead mathematical calculations they applied to this trade offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I would trade Seattle’s next years back to them for Wilson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Man I would love to see the Hawks without Wilson. Getting a top 5 draft pick would be the icing on the cake of the Jamal trade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, varjet said: I think the NFL is going to have to deal with how they account for signing bonuses/guaranteed payments/salary cap. If a player pushes for a signing bonus, and then wants out, do they blow up their team, and its other players, by making the current team take a huge cap hit to off load the player? NFL teams have to post-guaranteed salary in a deposit account. Really? NFL teams don't have credit. I could securitize the TV revenue. I would superstars guaranteed contracts, for injury and skill. If you want to retire, or if you get convicted or violate the substance rules, you don't get paid. If you want to hold out and force a trade, you don't get paid. The problem with your last paragraph is if players actually do start retiring or holding out, especially the ones who are already set financially, then you are damaging the franchises future to spite the player. What good does that do? Let's just pretend Russell Wilson walks in to Schneider's office tomorrow and says I'm done here. You either trade me or I retire. And he is steadfast that he will retire. What good does it do the future of the Seahawks to just let him walk out and get nothing when you could get a good return for him? If DK Metcalf walks in and says the same thing, it's a different discussion. Go ahead and retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Blast Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, rayzor said: I just read this: "The Seahawks’ offensive line ranked 16th as a unit in pass-blocking grade this season. That may not appear all that impressive on the surface, but it’s the highest they’ve ranked in that area since Russell Wilson has been in Seattle." What gives? Russell Wilson holds the ball too long. It's that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerVick1980 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I’d rather Deshaun because of age but I’d definitely take Russ. Has to be more then what’s on the surface because there’s franchise Qb’s in way worse situations then Russ.. Seattle is in the mix every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Take out our #2 and Q and this works. Jesus PFF needs to be f*cking purged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: The problem with your last paragraph is if players actually do start retiring or holding out, especially the ones who are already set financially, then you are damaging the franchises future to spite the player. What good does that do? Let's just pretend Russell Wilson walks in to Schneider's office tomorrow and says I'm done here. You either trade me or I retire. And he is steadfast that he will retire. What good does it do the future of the Seahawks to just let him walk out and get nothing when you could get a good return for him? If DK Metcalf walks in and says the same thing, it's a different discussion. Go ahead and retire. Judging by the tenor of the reporting, it doesn’t sound like the Seahawks management would shed too many tears about moving Russell if they can get a bunch of picks back. Wilson has a history of wearing on people, and that team is due for a reset. Miami would be a great trade partner, with Tua going back to Seattle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 How soon before Rich Cimini “reports” that Wilson doesn’t want to play for the Jets? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Wit said: I would trade Seattle’s next years back to them for Wilson ? Would you trade this years Seattle's pick and next years as well? In essence, the trade is Russell Wilson for Jamal Adams. And we get a 3rd round pick, and they get our 4th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: I don’t think Russ is a right fit for this team. We’re in rebuild mode, and Wilson is exactly a spring chicken. I can’t see Douglas giving up a ton of picks for him Definitely prefer Watson by a wide margin. But if Watson gets sent off to Carolina and the choice is between Russell Wilson or the Mormon, I'm taking Russ all day. Good luck, Jamal! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jet Blast said: Russell Wilson holds the ball too long. It's that simple. The Seahawks run a very vertical passing offense. You have to hold the ball longer in order for the play to develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, GreekJet said: How soon before Rich Cimini “reports” that Wilson doesn’t want to play for the Jets? Who cares. Getting Wilson won’t make any sense since we’re in a rebuild. Besides next years 1st rounder just got much more valuable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, rayzor said: If Wilson's complaint about Seattle is it's O-Line, why would he want to come here? Ciara's music career. Plus the Jets OL really isn't that bad as it stands. And will look massively improved with a competent QB and a couple key additions, like Corey Linsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Definitely prefer Watson by a wide margin. But if the choice is Russell Wilson vs the Mormon, I'm taking Russ all day. Good luck, Jamal! The cowardly Jamal Adams passive aggressive tweets about Zack Wilson would be ******* priceless 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, GreekJet said: How soon before Rich Cimini “reports” that Wilson doesn’t want to play for the Jets? Who knows but please fight the urge to start a thread when he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 We all know the AFC East next year is going to be: Jets: Whichever rookie QB ends up being the worst Pats: Russell Wilson Dolphins: Deshaun Watson Bills: Josh Allen Right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I don't don't want to trade all of these damn firsts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Offer them #23, the Seattle #1 next year, a third. If we have to throw in McDougal to close the deal, throw him in too. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said: We all know the AFC East next year is going to be: Jets: Mac Jones Pats: Russell Wilson Dolphins: Deshaun Watson Bills: Josh Allen Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, JiF said: Man, teams are weird and I swear, it's like they never learn there lesson. Who you want to hang your hat on, Russ or 70 year old Pete Carroll who was a perennial loser in the NFL and cheater in college before Russ came to the rescue. Below .500 until he got to Seattle, have only missed the playoffs 1 since, and they were still 9-7. Look at BB and the Pats. They're ****ed because they chose a perennial loser over the guy who brought them glory. Unfortunately, the Jets never take advantage of these situations. So that's fun! Yup. Russ is no innocent in all of this, but Carroll/Schneider prioritizing conservative play and Safeties over the offensive line for half of a decade was absurd. You pay Wilson that much of your cap only to not let him have a real say in how the offense is run? Pure narcissism on Carroll's part. Yes, its true that the Legion of Boom played as big of a role or bigger in winning the SB as Russ did. But you still weren't winning d*ck without a QB. And those days of dominant defense are long gone in the NFL. Carroll's failure to adapt will be his undoing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 This offseason is juicy t!ts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Effectively he's made over 103 million in his previous 3 years and if he plays out his contract he will only make 70 million in his next 3 years. That's over 10 million less per year. He's signing bonus finished paying out in 2020. Don't discount that this is all about a new contract and money. Russ is a very good QB who has a very high opinion of himself. Seattle broke the bank and had to jettison really good players to sign him after his rookie deal. This isn't about team it's about Russ's pocket book. Seattle has paid him over 162 million to date. They owe him another 70 if he plays through the 2023 season. I suspect he wants at least 100 million for the next 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: I've admired him as a player for a long time but do we really want someone his age and making his money playing QB on our team? I think not. I'm concerned about the "it's someone else's fault" vibe. And do we want to be reading about him and his wife on Page 6 every day? That would be annoying, I think. Not ideal, no, but beggars can't be choosers. Wilson probably still has at least 3-4 more years of elite level play in him, and he'd instantaneously become the 2nd best QB (at worst) in franchise history immediately upon arrival. He's annoying, yes. But he also produces, and we'd all fall in love with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 WOOOOOOOO it’s happening 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 If he’s available are we interested. Sure we are depends on the price. Would they accept Sam and our 23rd. Maybe an extra pick like a 3rd rounder thrown in. If Sam’s value is a late first rounder that’s a value of two first round picks plus for Wilson. Not enough? Actually Wilson is right he should be involved more in the game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, T0mShane said: WOOOOOOOO it’s happening ........ AGAIN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetsfan80 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: I want Wilson, but Zach rather than a 33 year old. But there would be something deliciously funny about the Jets publicly offering Seattle their Jamal Adams picks back for Russell Wilson. Seattle would say no, but to see the Twitter reaction from @Prez would be the greatest moment in Jets fan's history since the overtime versus the Pats. "And we want David Putney, too." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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