Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/todd-dewey/sharp-bettors-back-jets-in-nfl-futures-odds-2289367/ At this time last year, professional sports bettor Mark DeRosa bet big on Buccaneers futures based on his belief that Tom Brady would join Tampa Bay and lead it to the Super Bowl title. DeRosa won more than a half million dollars as Brady did just that. Perhaps based on a belief that Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson will be traded to the Jets, sharp bettors at William Hill on Thursday wagered on New York to win the AFC East, AFC and the Super Bowl. “Maybe they know something,” William Hill sportsbook director Nick Bogdanovich said. “I don’t know. Maybe they think Sam Darnold will start playing better.” In the biggest move since William Hill posted 2021 NFL division odds, the Jets dropped from 20-1 to 12-1 to win their division. 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rangerous Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Maybe. There is some logic to making a deal for Watson that includes some high draft picks. The first being the first rounders have about a 50-50 chance of being good players. The second being that maybe the current oline players are good enough so depth can be gotten in later rounds. Third, whatever skill players they will need to pair with Watson can be found as free agents. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedBeardedSavage Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 I read this and I go full simple jack. Never go full simple jack. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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32EBoozer Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/todd-dewey/sharp-bettors-back-jets-in-nfl-futures-odds-2289367/ At this time last year, professional sports bettor Mark DeRosa bet big on Buccaneers futures based on his belief that Tom Brady would join Tampa Bay and lead it to the Super Bowl title. DeRosa won more than a half million dollars as Brady did just that. Perhaps based on a belief that Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson will be traded to the Jets, sharp bettors at William Hill on Thursday wagered on New York to win the AFC East, AFC and the Super Bowl. “Maybe they know something,” William Hill sportsbook director Nick Bogdanovich said. “I don’t know. Maybe they think Sam Darnold will start playing better.” In the biggest move since William Hill posted 2021 NFL division odds, the Jets dropped from 20-1 to 12-1 to win their division. Only increases our chances of obtaining watson if JD's "distant" relative placed the huge bet! JD: "A friend of a friend of a friend made this bet commisioner! I didn't even know the guy! Honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, rangerous said: Maybe. There is some logic to making a deal for Watson that includes some high draft picks. The first being the first rounders have about a 50-50 chance of being good players. The second being that maybe the current oline players are good enough so depth can be gotten in later rounds. Third, whatever skill players they will need to pair with Watson can be found as free agents. It's not just the draft picks, it's also the money. Paying him what needs to be paid removes the ability to fix the team with free agents as well. The Jets are not in a position to give up 4 first rounds picks and pay a 4 win QB $30mm with the current talent on the roster. Bottom line, the Jets roster is by far worse than the Texans, not sure why anyone thinks we'll be any better with Watson as the QB. Maybe we'll win 6 games instead of 2 (or the 4 Watson won with a better roster) but upgrading the roster with whatever cap space is left. Watson is a great fit for a team that has an established roster, missing a QB (much like Tampa last year) 10 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Is there a bet I can make that says if the Jets get Watson he'll be off the team in three years? Because that is precisely what's going to happen. 2 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's not just the draft picks, it's also the money. Paying him what needs to be paid removes the ability to fix the team with free agents as well. The Jets are not in a position to give up 4 first rounds picks and pay a 4 win QB $30mm with the current talent on the roster. Bottom line, the Jets roster is by far worse than the Texans, not sure why anyone thinks we'll be any better with Watson as the QB. Maybe we'll win 6 games instead of 2 (or the 4 Watson won with a better roster) but upgrading the roster with whatever cap space is left. Watson is a great fit for a team that has an established roster, missing a QB (much like Tampa last year) I’d be interested in you elaborating on the bold. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, derp said: I’d be interested in you elaborating on this. It's pretty simple. The Jets have the worst roster in the NFL. Therefor it's worse than the Texans roster. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's pretty simple. The Jets have the worst roster in the NFL. Therefor it's worse than the Texans roster. Aside from not addressing the “far” you didn’t say a thing about either roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Is there a bet I can make that says if the Jets get Watson he'll be off the team in three years? Because that is precisely what's going to happen. Three years will be longer than Zack Wilson would last on this “worst roster in the league” Jets team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Three years would be longer than Zack Wilson would last on this “worst roster in the league” Jets team. Technically Sam made it three if you subtract mono time, injury time and the time he spent seeing ghost. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's pretty simple. The Jets have the worst roster in the NFL. Therefor it's worse than the Texans roster. I think this is right, and although I like the concept of him JD did not really start fixing it last year. His draft picks and signings were mediocre and Adams was converted to future draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, derp said: Aside from not addressing the “far” you didn’t say a thing about either roster. I'm a working man and have neither the time or inclination to list both of their rosters, but go ahead and look them up - it's painfully obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's pretty simple 1. Draft Zack Wilson at 2, then draft whoever falls to 23 2. Spend free agent dollars on skill position players just dying to play with Zack Wilson 3. ??????????? 4. Titles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jbt Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's not just the draft picks, it's also the money. Paying him what needs to be paid removes the ability to fix the team with free agents as well. The Jets are not in a position to give up 4 first rounds picks and pay a 4 win QB $30mm with the current talent on the roster. Bottom line, the Jets roster is by far worse than the Texans, not sure why anyone thinks we'll be any better with Watson as the QB. Maybe we'll win 6 games instead of 2 (or the 4 Watson won with a better roster) but upgrading the roster with whatever cap space is left. Watson is a great fit for a team that has an established roster, missing a QB (much like Tampa last year) you would have Watson long term and if you draft well with the picks you have left over and use your FA money wisely they can build a team around him in a couple years that can compete for a super bowl. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Three years will be longer than Zack Wilson would last on this “worst roster in the league” Jets team. We'll have 4 first round draft picks and an additional $30mm in cap space to help my favorite Beach Boys fan.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post WhartonJet Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's not just the draft picks, it's also the money. Paying him what needs to be paid removes the ability to fix the team with free agents as well. The Jets are not in a position to give up 4 first rounds picks and pay a 4 win QB $30mm with the current talent on the roster. Bottom line, the Jets roster is by far worse than the Texans, not sure why anyone thinks we'll be any better with Watson as the QB. Maybe we'll win 6 games instead of 2 (or the 4 Watson won with a better roster) but upgrading the roster with whatever cap space is left. Watson is a great fit for a team that has an established roster, missing a QB (much like Tampa last year) This is why the Jets can't have nice things. Deshaun Watson is a "4 win a QB"? Without even knowing the trade compensation its "too expensive." Laughable. Obtaining Watson is a long term play. He is 25 years old. What is elite QB play for 10+ years worth? We will still have multiple high picks and cap space to surround a real franchise QB with talent. If the Texans are willing to trade him, this is literally a no brainer 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: We'll have 4 first round draft picks and an additional $30mm in cap space to help my favorite Beach Boys fan.... The price won’t be four first round picks, it’ll be three, with one of them being #23 and the other one being whatever Saleh and Watson produce in 2022, which you would presume will be a mid to low first. As for all this sweet free agent money, it only comes into play if Zack Wilson is elite. Plenty of players will want to come play with Watson. What player out there is itching to play with Zack Wilson on—as you called it—“the worst roster in the league”? 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's not just the draft picks, it's also the money. Paying him what needs to be paid removes the ability to fix the team with free agents as well. The Jets are not in a position to give up 4 first rounds picks and pay a 4 win QB $30mm with the current talent on the roster. Bottom line, the Jets roster is by far worse than the Texans, not sure why anyone thinks we'll be any better with Watson as the QB. Maybe we'll win 6 games instead of 2 (or the 4 Watson won with a better roster) but upgrading the roster with whatever cap space is left. Watson is a great fit for a team that has an established roster, missing a QB (much like Tampa last year) i do consider the money even if not stated. the thing is they have the money now and they can probably finagle his contract so it isn't so heinous in the future. as for the players and player talent, i'm sure saleh and douglas will need to assess that. so much of whatever talent there was was hidden by the way gase ran the team, injuries, and the weird virus season. i've always thought that there are coaches that can improve a player's talent level by either putting him in the right position or surrounding him with the right players or just outright coaching. the whole 'next man up' philosophy is nice, but if the replacement player can't block the same way or run the same pass routes then the play calling need to be adjusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Three years will be longer than Zack Wilson would last on this “worst roster in the league” Jets team. If that's the case we wouldn't have wasted 4 first round picks and $90mm on him. It's 1 first round pick and a fraction of the cost. Watson is Brett Farving us. Using the sucker team with the draft and cap capital to get him out of Houston and then will leave at his first opportunity. A weak armed, disgruntled, 4 win QB, coming to the worst roster in the NFL is a disaster waiting to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: A weak armed, disgruntled, 4 win QB, 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Or Russ gets to be the executive chef at Metlife... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Augustiniak Posted February 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Technically Sam made it three if you subtract mono time, injury time and the time he spent seeing ghost. Seriously, darnold hasn’t been durable physically or mentally. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, sourceworx said: This GIF is my favorite thing, ever. ? #1 stunner, money & the power, stunting is a habit, get like me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, WhartonJet said: This is why the Jets can't have nice things. Deshaun Watson is a "4 win a QB"? Without even knowing the trade compensation its "too expensive." Laughable. Obtaining Watson is a long term play. He is 25 years old. What is elite QB play for 10+ years worth? We will still have multiple high picks and cap space to surround a real franchise QB with talent. If the Texans are willing to trade him, this is literally a no brainer What makes you think he's going to stay on the Jets beyond his current contract? He won't. With the roster we'll give him he won't be able to win here his first two years , the media and fans will be all over him - the moment his contract is up he'll gone. Possibly even traded after his second year so we can recoup something. This is so obvious what's going to happen, just have to have a bit of foresight to accept it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: With the roster we'll give him he won't be able to win here his first two years , the media and fans will be all over him - the moment his contract is up he'll gone. Possibly even traded after his second year so we can recoup something. Are you describing Deshaun Watson or the entitled wee lad from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 There are sports books overseas offering odds on Watson. Texans are the leaders at +200. Jets are at +1000, with 6 teams offering better odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: There are sports books overseas offering odds on Watson. Texans are the leaders at +200. Jets are at +1000, with 6 teams offering better odds Europe is in decline 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 well so far the texans won't even listen to an offer for watson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Europe is in decline Go bet the rent payment if you're so certain 10 to 1 its free money right Emmanuel kant says that a wager is the way for people to stop and analyze the endless sh*t they talk I'll make this bet with you Shane, 2:1 if he stays in Houston 10 to 1 if he's a jet 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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