Rashod Bateman at 23?

[Philc1]

I’m seeing him getting mocked to us at 23 a lot.  Some scouts are comparing him to Michael Thomas, I think that’s a little generous I see him as a better, faster Quincy Enunwa.

[sec101row23]

F**k no.

[Philc1]

21 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

F**k no.

 

 

 

[derp]

Bateman is substantially slower than Enunwa.

[Paradis]

 

[Paradis]

Taking Bateman at 23 would annihilate any good will JD has afforded himself from me. 

Edited February 26, 2021 by Paradis

[Rhg1084]

Kid can fly 

[Paradis]

25 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Kid can fly 

He doesn’t play fast. That I’m sure of. To each their own tho, he has his fans. I wouldn’t look his way until R3 at the earliest. 

[derp]

33 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Kid can fly 

That is really surprising. I’d thought he was really slow when I watched him before. On second glance maybe I was watching bad highlights. I dunno. Curious to see how the other times look.

[PepPep]

If Terrace Marshall Jr. is there at 23 I think I'm taking him over Bateman. 

[win4ever]

At that speed, I'm back on the Bateman train.  He has some issues to clean up for sure, but I'm a sucker for receivers that have good route stems.  I would love to hear his 3 cone time as well.  

[Paradis]

3 hours ago, PepPep said:

If Terrace Marshall Jr. is there at 23 I think I'm taking him over Bateman. 

Terrace Marshall >> Rashod Bateman for a laundry list of reasons

[maury77]

3 hours ago, win4ever said:

At that speed, I'm back on the Bateman train.  He has some issues to clean up for sure, but I'm a sucker for receivers that have good route stems.  I would love to hear his 3 cone time as well.  

Do you trust that the numbers are from a training facility that he pays to train at? I'm skeptical if the team scouts aren't the ones doing the times. 

[Beerfish]

No worthy Wrs at 23 if you ask me.  The guys I really like will be gone.  The value at 23 will be at CB, Oline maybe even linebacker or pass rusher.

 

I'm staking Paradis's reputation on this.

[Beerfish]

with no combine I don't believe a thing any of these pro days come out with.  Speed, measurements, nothing.

Typical pro day 40:

 

[win4ever]

5 hours ago, maury77 said:

Do you trust that the numbers are from a training facility that he pays to train at? I'm skeptical if the team scouts aren't the ones doing the times. 

I'd like to see the others put up some numbers too because it's all going to be inflated this year.  But if he has even say 4.45 speed, I'm onboard, but that's because I think some of his issues can be fixed.  He has a false step at the snap, which limits his ability to get clean releases.  I think that's why he looks slow on tape at times because he doesn't explode out of his stance.  I thought Jefferson had a mini version of this problem at LSU, where at times he'd have a false step before moving off the line, but he didn't do it like every play with Bateman,  If that can be coached out, I think he could be a really good guy.  

[sec101row23]

11 hours ago, maury77 said:

Do you trust that the numbers are from a training facility that he pays to train at? I'm skeptical if the team scouts aren't the ones doing the times. 

This is going to be the biggest problem this year in trying to get accurate metrics.  There is a reason guys typically run faster at pro days than the combine.   At least the combine provides electronic timed drills and they are all on the same surface.   
 

As far as Bateman goes, I’d be more surprised if he ran sub 4.4 than when Claypool put up his surprising times last year.  

[derp]

5 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

This is going to be the biggest problem this year in trying to get accurate metrics.  There is a reason guys typically run faster at pro days than the combine.   At least the combine provides electronic timed drills and they are all on the same surface.   
 

As far as Bateman goes, I’d be more surprised if he ran sub 4.4 than when Claypool put up his surprising times last year.  

Interesting comparison - I know it’s not stylistic. I thought Claypool looked slow too. Obviously the time didn’t raise him too far, and clearly he looked quite good last year.

[win4ever]

8 hours ago, sec101row23 said:

This is going to be the biggest problem this year in trying to get accurate metrics.  There is a reason guys typically run faster at pro days than the combine.   At least the combine provides electronic timed drills and they are all on the same surface.   
 

As far as Bateman goes, I’d be more surprised if he ran sub 4.4 than when Claypool put up his surprising times last year.  

Maybe it's ND, but I swear I was surprised by St. Brown, Boykin, and Claypool on their 40 times.  It's actually part of the reason why I wasn't as high on Claypool last year, because they seem to have all these guys that can run track speed, but the offense is slow as hell.  

[BklynJetsFan85]

Depends what we do with Crowder and in FA. I'd prefer the Jets grab a CB or G. I like OG Wyatt Davis from Ohio State a lot. 

[Philc1]

On 2/28/2021 at 7:31 AM, sec101row23 said:

This is going to be the biggest problem this year in trying to get accurate metrics.  There is a reason guys typically run faster at pro days than the combine.   At least the combine provides electronic timed drills and they are all on the same surface.   
 

As far as Bateman goes, I’d be more surprised if he ran sub 4.4 than when Claypool put up his surprising times last year.  

Bateman 4.39 40

 

Not bad for a “slow” WR

[Philc1]

On 2/27/2021 at 7:57 PM, Beerfish said:

with no combine I don't believe a thing any of these pro days come out with.  Speed, measurements, nothing.

Typical pro day 40:

 

Maybe the laser gun was biased

[sec101row23]

1 hour ago, Philc1 said:

Bateman 4.39 40

 

Not bad for a “slow” WR

Still not taking him at 23 

[nycdan]

On 2/27/2021 at 7:57 PM, Beerfish said:

with no combine I don't believe a thing any of these pro days come out with.  Speed, measurements, nothing.

Typical pro day 40:

 

Or a 'tweaked hammy' always comes in handy.

[jetstream23]

On 2/27/2021 at 5:36 PM, Paradis said:

Terrace Marshall >> Rashod Bateman for a laundry list of reasons

Would prefer Terrace Marshall at #34 rather than #23, especially if there's an excellent OL or CB available at #23.

[Peace Frog]

I'd rather Toney than any of those guys.  Explosive playmaker, hasn't dropped a ball since 3rd grade.  

[Paradis]

8 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Bateman 4.39 40

 

Not bad for a “slow” WR

I would hit 4.4s this year. 

[section314]

4 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I would hit 4.4s this year. 

You know how so many times an announcer will say "this guy plays way faster than his Metrics?" This season it's gonna be just the opposite.?

[K_O_Brien]

Love Bateman, but if don't go CB or IOL at 23, I'll be amazed. 

[Philc1]

On 3/28/2021 at 3:44 PM, section314 said:

You know how so many times an announcer will say "this guy plays way faster than his Metrics?" This season it's gonna be just the opposite.?

k

[nycdan]

On 3/28/2021 at 3:37 PM, Paradis said:

I would hit 4.4s this year. 

Only if you were timed falling out of a tree.

 

[redlichtie]

On 3/28/2021 at 8:37 PM, Paradis said:

I would hit 4.4s this year. 

Maybe your 10 yard split!

[Sammybighead]

Agree, i kinda like Marshall or Bateman. That said, I’d much rather go oline at 23

[bitonti]

Bateman was a beast in 19, had a terrible bout with the covid and lost like 25 pounds during the 20 season 

It's like watching fields vs northwestern that's covid tape