BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 QBs we're not overly protected during Simms' career. These INTs are despicable, especially in today's QB friendly environment. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 You can't really compare gingers to blonds. 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Are you old enough to have watched those superbowls? Different game, oh and the Giants were beasts back then as a whole. Simms was not a team carrying QB. When Simms got hurt big Hoss stepped up and won with that team too. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Okay, two things here. 1) Phil Simms was drafted in the 1970s. 2) This argument is supposed to be significant because it suggests that Darnold will miss the entire 2021 season, barely play and suck in 2022, then break out in 2023? Am I getting that right? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, nycdan said: You can't really compare gingers to blonds. Yeah. You need a Mary Anne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Okay, two things here. 1) Phil Simms was drafted in the 1970s. 2) This argument is supposed to be significant because it suggests that Darnold will miss the entire 2021 season, barely play and suck in 2022, then break out in 2023? Am I getting that right? Add on his new team and I think we good friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. These are Zach Wilson’s stats from 2019 when he played four power-5 teams. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Okay, two things here. 1) Phil Simms was drafted in the 1970s. 2) This argument is supposed to be significant because it suggests that Darnold will miss the entire 2021 season, barely play and suck in 2022, then break out in 2023? Am I getting that right? I didn’t suggest that. You inferred that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yeah. You need a Mary Anne. Always need a Mary Anne. And an Ellie Mae Clampett! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: I didn’t suggest that. You inferred that. No, you suggested a parallel between Simms and Darnold. I was pointing out that was a preposterous comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: No, you suggested a parallel between Simms and Darnold. I was pointing out that was a preposterous comparison. I compared Simms and Darnold’s STATS. Not their life events. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I’m rooting for Sammy, but this is a reach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. Except in 1981, Simms numbers were pretty much league average which was 54.6% completions and 72.9 passer rating. Plus league wide there were more picks than TD passes. Game has changed a lot in 40 years. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 They played a different sport back then. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They played a different sport back then. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Oh hey lemme go and find something randomly anecdotal that completely confirms my bias. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They played a different sport back then. Yes they did. My point however is a guy can improve significantly with a better team around him and better coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Brees was horrible in year 3. And 25-26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Okay, two things here. 1) Phil Simms was drafted in the 1970s. 2) This argument is supposed to be significant because it suggests that Darnold will miss the entire 2021 season, barely play and suck in 2022, then break out in 2023? Am I getting that right? i'm not getting why draft year has anything to do with it except maybe the game was that much different so you can't compare directly the qbr. i don't see where darnold sitting out a season is any part of the argument. i will say that simms got beaten out by mark brunner so it's not like he was any great shakes when he first played. and even there, those giants teams were winners because they had a really good oline and a monster defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: Are you old enough to... Sonny boy, I lost money betting on the 1919 White Sox! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Sonny boy, I lost money betting on the 1919 White Sox! Somehow I doubt you're older than 102 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: Okay, two things here. 1) Phil Simms was drafted in the 1970s. 2) This argument is supposed to be significant because it suggests that Darnold will miss the entire 2021 season, barely play and suck in 2022, then break out in 2023? Am I getting that right? 1979 the same year as Montana the rules helping QB's were in 1978.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Comparing a QB in 2020 to a QB 40 years ago. Man the excuses for Sammy reach new lows even in the offseason 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: You can't really compare gingers to blonds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, Savage69 said: 1979 the same year as Montana the rules helping QB's were in 1978.. Yeah, competing a QB drafted in 1979 to a QB drafted in 2018 is absurd and renders the whole thing irrelevant. It’s a different sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Yeah, competing a QB drafted in 1979 to a QB drafted in 2018 is absurd and renders the whole thing irrelevant. It’s a different sport. I wasn't it's totally different now but rules to help the QB started in 1978 and since have got even better.. When Joe played D linemen could head slap O-linemen and they couldn't grab the D like they do now.. QB's could get hammered then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 If Sam Darnold is Phil Simms then James 'Captain' Morgan is our Jeff Hostetler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 He was mediocre and didn’t live up to his potential. Great mechanics throwing the ball. He should have been better than he was. On the flip side Parcells one big flaw was how he handled QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Looking forward to your Darnold vs. Bart Starr thread. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Look familiar? Crash landed space pod Found naked in a ditch Nerdy looking kid 2nd rate newspaper reporter Stepped into a phone booth Clark Kent came back as the man of steel (he was awkward at first) but with a new chick he flew for 404,424,901.461 miles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, Savage69 said: I wasn't it's totally different now but rules to help the QB started in 1978 and since have got even better.. When Joe played D linemen could head slap O-linemen and they couldn't grab the D like they do now.. QB's could get hammered then.. I'm not really sure what your point is. Obviously it's much easier to play QB today, that's the whole reason reason the comparison between Simms and Darnold is worthless. It's never been easier to play QB and Darnold still stinks. The fact that six years into his career Simms figured it is beyond meaningless and is totally inapplicable to today's game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Heard the same s____ when Sanchez was here. "QBX, who became a HoFer in year 2 or 3 sucked, so therefore Mark Sanchez will do that." There are a lot more Ryan Leafs, Vince Youngs and Matt Leinarts than there are QBXs. That was pretty much ...Mark Sanchez. Darnold ain't it. He's not bleeding for it. He never has. He(like Sanchez) has a pile of money and his health. He can be a backup and bank some more coin. He is not and is never going to be a primo QB. And he can go back to SoCal to surf and babble on PAC12 TV games how that was a great pass. Pleas stop trying to sell nonsense. Because we have seen this before. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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