sourceworx Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Hey guys, check out YouTube highlights of Gale Sayers slicing through defenses, then come back to me saying running backs are a dime a dozen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Irish Jet said: They played a different sport back then. 3 hours ago, section314 said: Absolutely. Yep. Football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I remember Phil Simms. Why don't we compare Tommy Kramer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Looking forward to your Darnold vs. Bart Starr thread. Year 3 Comp %: 49.7 TD: 3 INT: 12 Yards: 875 QB Rating: 41.2 Can't you fools see?!?! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 If only we could draft a QB made out of glass that could take years to become useful and lose his job to Scott Bruner and Jeff Hostetler. A dream come true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 hours ago, BettyBoop said: Sonny boy, I lost money betting on the 1919 White Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: No, you suggested a parallel between Simms and Darnold. I was pointing out that was a preposterous comparison. And yet it’s not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Like comparing a Renoir to some photoshopped knockoff .. QBs were responsible for MUCH more back then and were afforded 1000 times less.protection.In todays QB friendly, bubble wrapped protected , coach driven play calling, defensive holding, touch football league Sam's numbers are despicable.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Bronx said: QBs we're not overly protected during Simms' career. These INTs are despicable, especially in today's QB friendly environment. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 "Totally different game back then. Head slaps, QB's were pinatas. Lester Hayes. Sam sucks even with all the rule changes" "Namath is a fake Hall of Famer. Look at his stats. More Ints than TDs. One 4000 yd season" Am I doing this right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: If only we could draft a QB made out of glass that could take years to become useful and lose his job to Scott Bruner and Jeff Hostetler. A dream come true. I have to agree with Dom here. The reason Simms had any success was because of Bill Parcells. Good point, Dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I have to agree with Dom here. The reason Simms had any success was because of Bill Parcells. Good point, Dom His only seasons over 60% completion percentage were under Ray Handley and Dan Reeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Looking forward to your Darnold vs. Bart Starr thread. You asked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 hours ago, BettyBoop said: Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. Simms was a bust she didn’t win multiple Super Bowls with a crap supporting cast by his rookie year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 9 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: His only seasons over 60% completion percentage were under Ray Handley and Dan Reeves. Remember when the Josh Allen haters obsessed over his 56% competition percentage in college? Fun times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Remember when the Josh Allen haters obsessed over his 56% competition percentage in college? Fun times You can throw out all the BS stats you want of a QBs who sucked as bad as Darnold did in his first three years, and did something in the NFL . When your QBs can’t read NFL defenses , the chances of that QB being successful isn’t that great. Time to admit your mistake, (see Jamarcus Russell) and find a new QB. Or stay in denial and pray he can turn it around.( you have better shot of winning the lottery). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just now, Raideraholic said: You can throw out all the BS stats you want of a QBs who sucked as bad as Darnold did in his first three years, and did something in the NFL . When your QBs can’t read NFL defenses , the chances of that QB being successful isn’t that great. Time to admit your mistake, (see Jamarcus Russell) and find a new QB. Or stay in denial and pray he can turn it around.( you have better shot of winning the lottery). Weren’t you the raiders fan on JI who called me a retard because I thought Oakland shoulda drafted Calvin Johnson over Jamarcus Russell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I am not giving up on Sam, I still think he can be a good QB but Phil played in a very different era, if Phil played today he never would have made it to year 4 with the giants. If the D didn't carry the giants to a SB in 07 eli wouldn't have made to the new decade. Social media has killed patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biggs Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Remember when the Josh Allen haters obsessed over his 56% competition percentage in college? Fun times Remember when Josh Allen had 631 yards, 7.31 and 8 TD's in his rookie year rushing. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 hours ago, oatmeal said: This 2 crossers are open on that first INT also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Weren’t you the raiders fan on JI who called me a retard because I thought Oakland shoulda drafted Calvin Johnson over Jamarcus Russell? Again you believe a QB is a franchise QB, you have to take that player over a potential hall of fame potential Wr. Every single time. ( what did Detroit win with that wr) Just because it didn’t work out doesn’t mean the reasoning was wrong.( just like it didn’t work out drafting the QBs, at one .You don’t pass on that the next time because of that failure. Let’s see if the Jets will do the right thing for their organization and admit they were wrong on Sam Darnold. Or will they do the right thing, and draft another potential franchise Qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 10:07 AM, BettyBoop said: I compared Simms and Darnold’s STATS. Not their life events. That makes your comparison even dumber...somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 2:30 PM, sourceworx said: Hey guys, check out YouTube highlights of Gale Sayers slicing through defenses, then come back to me saying running backs are a dime a dozen. They are, whereas one of Gale Sayers' ability clearly isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Yeah but how about Y.A. Tittle's year 3 stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 6:01 PM, Jet Nut said: And yet it’s not Yes it is. Nothing that happened in the early 80s has any bearing on today's game whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 1:28 PM, UntouchableCrew said: Yeah, comparing a QB drafted in 1979 to a QB drafted in 2018 is absurd and renders the whole thing irrelevant. It’s a different sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: Yes it is. Nothing that happened in the early 80s has any bearing on today's game whatsoever. It has noting to do with the 80's game. The whole point is that he was able to turn his career around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 17 hours ago, Raideraholic said: You can throw out all the BS stats you want of a QBs who sucked as bad as Darnold did in his first three years, and did something in the NFL . When your QBs can’t read NFL defenses , the chances of that QB being successful isn’t that great. Time to admit your mistake, (see Jamarcus Russell) and find a new QB. Or stay in denial and pray he can turn it around.( you have better shot of winning the lottery). Funny, he had no problem reading the Raider defense again this year. When you can come up with a single QB drafted top 5, at only 20 years old, who is given a worse OL, a worse set of WRs with worse coaching, then we'll make statements about what he can or cant do. As for the lectures about admitting mistakes, going into Russells last season you actually told me that he would out play and pass T Brady as the leagues best. A month later he was released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Sam seems to always throw off his back foot. Almost like he is afraid to step into his throws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 22 hours ago, Biggs said: Remember when Josh Allen had 631 yards, 7.31 and 8 TD's in his rookie year rushing. Good times. I’m not taking away anything from Allen but the guy has been in a ideal situation in Buffalo. McDermott, Roman are way better coaches than any of the trash coaches we had last several years. Way better roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Funny, he had no problem reading the Raider defense again this year. When you can come up with a single QB drafted top 5, at only 20 years old, who is given a worse OL, a worse set of WRs with worse coaching, then we'll make statements about what he can or cant do. As for the lectures about admitting mistakes, going into Russells last season you actually told me that he would out play and pass T Brady as the leagues best. A month later he was released. Wow your point is that Sam Darnold played well against a very very bad defense( Raiders) , and that game justifies he can be a good QB. No against NFL quality defenses he has been one of the worst QBs in the league for the last three years.( fact) I don’t remember that conversation with you, but I do remember you saying Sam Darnold was better than Derek Carr. Well all we have to look at is to stats , and know how wrong you were. It’s time for the Jet organization to go in another direction at Qb, Sam Darnold like a lot of USC QBs never lived up to his hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 9:48 AM, BettyBoop said: Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. Just out of curiosity, do you know what year that was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 10:48 AM, BettyBoop said: Look familiar? Comp %: 54.4 TD: 11 INT: 9 Yards: 2,031 QB Rating: 74.0 Simms came back two years later (he was hurt for two years) with a new coach and threw for 4044 yards. And in pretty much the same NFL, passing wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Raideraholic said: Wow your point is that Sam Darnold played well against a very very bad defense( Raiders) , and that game justifies he can be a good QB. No against NFL quality defenses he has been one of the worst QBs in the league for the last three years.( fact) I don’t remember that conversation with you, but I do remember you saying Sam Darnold was better than Derek Carr. Well all we have to look at is to stats , and know how wrong you were. It’s time for the Jet organization to go in another direction at Qb, Sam Darnold like a lot of USC QBs never lived up to his hype. I made a comment. Dont be so defensive over your Raiders And now you dont remember those posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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