Jetlife33 Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Barton said: Good idea. Maye is solid but he hasnt done it back to back years yet. Agreed. I think it’s a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 This draft class unlike last year is very deep at safety especially day 2 prospects. Some are day one talents but die to INJ maybe day 3 selections. Paris Ford, Andre Cisco, Jevon Holland, Richie Grant and Trevon Moehrig. So tag Maye and draft a safety. It's not like Davis is shining and the team needs 3 solid Safeties anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 hours ago, T0mShane said: Give him $18 mil per, Joe D. Mayes $11m and the $7m we offered Adams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I don't Proclaim to be a cap Guru of any kind. This situation kind of reminds me of Leon Washington who was homegrown and humble until people started whispering in his ear. Marcus is a smooth cool easy dude to root for. I don't think he would have any problem accepting a fair and decent contract offer. Unless he absolutely hates the Jets behind the scenes, I don't understand why they would need to tag him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 They really can’t just lock him up long term? He some kind of greedy bum or is JD cheap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 As the Jets prepare to enter free agency in pursuit of other team’s top players, at least one report has surfaced that claims they’ll use the franchise tag to retain one of their own in safety Marcus Maye. Here's why the smart move — and maybe the likely move — for the Jets is to use the 'franchise tag' on safety Marcus Maye … https://t.co/JOf8RL2R5g pic.twitter.com/6fkxH9mJEU — Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY) February 28, 2021 The last remaining player from the team’s disastrous 2017 draft, Maye has grown to become a reliable and durable safety who is solid against both the run and the pass. Maye has started all 16 games in 3 of 4 pro seasons while racking up 266 tackles, 6 interceptions, 5 tackles for loss and 4 forced fumbles. With plenty of holes left to fill on one of the league’s worst rosters, tagging Maye makes sense for general manager Joe Douglas as he will look to fill at least one spot on the depth chart before it becomes another need. As a respected veteran and locker room presence, Maye will also be a key in anchoring a secondary that could have as many as three new starters in 2021. The post Report: Jets to use Franchise tag on Marcus Maye appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Jetnationcom?d=yIl2AUoC8zA http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Jetnationcom?d=qj6IDK7rITs http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Jetnationcom/~4/htB7maQS69UClick here to read the full story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Marcus Maye and Jamal Adams are 0-0 in the Playoffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Beerfish said: But jamalaboutme As a rule, I absolute hate the sophomoric nicknames this website gives to players. That having been said... This one is funny as sh*t. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Beerfish said: 2020 Jamal: 3 passes defended, 1 forced fumble, 0 fumble recoveries, 0 interceptions, 83 combined tackles Maye: 11 passes defended, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, 2 interceptions, 88 combined tackles But jamalaboutme had more sacks when not blocked, poaching at the line of scrimmage, play maker! I'm all for ripping on Jamal but that is 12 games from Jamal and 16 games from Maye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said: I don't Proclaim to be a cap Guru of any kind. This situation kind of reminds me of Leon Washington who was homegrown and humble until people started whispering in his ear. Marcus is a smooth cool easy dude to root for. I don't think he would have any problem accepting a fair and decent contract offer. Unless he absolutely hates the Jets behind the scenes, I don't understand why they would need to tag him. It's his only shot at a big contract at 28 years old. Budda Baker was taken 3 picks in front of Maye and landed a $15M a year deal. Maye will see himself worthy of that type of pay day. Maye (16 games) 2 INT - 11 PD - 2 FF - 1 FR - 2 Sacks - 88 Tkl Baker (15 games) 2 INT - 6 PD - 1 FF - 0 FR - 2 Sacks - 118 Tkl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I'm all for ripping on Jamal but that is 12 games from Jamal and 16 games from Maye Jamal being an all pro and Maye being on the jets should be killing him in some of those stats. The biggest indictment about jamal adams is he can't cover and he creates almost no turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Jamal being an all pro and Maye being on the jets should be killing him in some of those stats. The biggest indictment about jamal adams is he can't cover and he creates almost no turnovers. oo yea I'm right there with you, I just think some context is needed because some may just assume it's even comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I'm all for ripping on Jamal but that is 12 games from Jamal and 16 games from Maye The greatest NFL ability is availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Right move. Use the tag if he and his agent can’t agree on a reasonable deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'm all for ripping on Jamal but that is 12 games from Jamal and 16 games from Maye Adams is not good in coverage. 2 career picks in 4 years is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 11 hours ago, TeddEY said: As a rule, I absolute hate the sophomoric nicknames this website gives to players. That having been said... This one is funny as sh*t. TeddEY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 But Maybe was part of a 2 and 14 team last year. Why not let him walk? We could get a comp pick that will allow us to build a super team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 It woukd be hilarious if Maye got his deal Done before Adams. It would also be hilarious if Adams also gets tagged by Seattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 12 hours ago, jetophile said: Marcus Maye and Jamal Adams are 0-0 in the Playoffs Sorry to have to correct you. Jamal Adams is 0-1 in the Playoffs. Marcus Maye is 0-0 in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: TeddEY That’s not the players nickname silly boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, TeddEY said: That’s not the players nickname silly boy. I say it is, EY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: It woukd be hilarious if Maye got his deal Done before Adams. It would also be hilarious if Adams also gets tagged by Seattle. If Adams doesn't get a new deal this year, Maye will be making more than him. If they both get tagged next year, Maye will be making more again. Someone in Seattle has to realize that trade sucked for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 15 hours ago, Larz said: They really can’t just lock him up long term? He some kind of greedy bum or is JD cheap? They can still work on a contract when he is tagged no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 JD should be focusing on building a team for 2022-2023. Franchising Maye does nothing to accomplish that unless it is a threat to get him to agree to a reasonable longer term deal. Maye should have been extended in 2020, which would have required paying him more in 2020 (we had the money) but less later. I thought drafting Ashtyn Davis was also a way to build through the draft and not pay decent but not All Pro players $10mm+ to extend them. Maye will get hurt playing more of a SS role, particularly after he gets money in the bank. As I have said before, I like JD, and his expanded staff gives me hope, but his actual 2020 draft picks and signings were very iffy. The Becton/Wirfs choice was also not a slamdunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, varjet said: JD should be focusing on building a team for 2022-2023. Franchising Maye does nothing to accomplish that unless it is a threat to get him to agree to a reasonable longer term deal. Maye should have been extended in 2020, which would have required paying him more in 2020 (we had the money) but less later. I thought drafting Ashtyn Davis was also a way to build through the draft and not pay decent but not All Pro players $10mm+ to extend them. Maye will get hurt playing more of a SS role, particularly after he gets money in the bank. As I have said before, I like JD, and his expanded staff gives me hope, but his actual 2020 draft picks and signings were very iffy. The Becton/Wirfs choice was also not a slamdunk. JD should be focusing on building a team for 2021 and beyond. Franchising Maye accomplishes this goal. JD threw away 2020, and you want him to throw away 2021 as well, so he can focus on 2022 and beyond? Sorry, I don't agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Alka said: JD should be focusing on building a team for 2021 and beyond. Franchising Maye accomplishes this goal. JD threw away 2020, and you want him to throw away 2021 as well, so he can focus on 2022 and beyond? Sorry, I don't agree. Do you use $10mm of cap space we could use for a player signed for multiple years or carried over next year to keep a FS on the roster when we just drafted one? I guess if we get Watson, you take one year at a time and build the best team we can for next year. If we are drafting a QB, don't know whether you spend $10mm for a safety who can leave in 2022. But it sounds like I am not only outvoted, but it also appears that the FT for Maye is JD's plan. JD does seem to try and do the right thing with players. I think this is an example of why players are going to succeed with getting rid of the franchise tag. When you invest 5 years into a QB developing him, to have him leave for a sunnier place or crazy money, then you use it. But for a 28 year-old safety on a team that has the worst overall roster in the league, this seems wrong to me. GIve him 3 x $10mm, $20 guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, varjet said: Do you use $10mm of cap space we could use for a player signed for multiple years or carried over next year to keep a FS on the roster when we just drafted one? I guess if we get Watson, you take one year at a time and build the best team we can for next year. If we are drafting a QB, don't know whether you spend $10mm for a safety who can leave in 2022. But it sounds like I am not only outvoted, but it also appears that the FT for Maye is JD's plan. JD does seem to try and do the right thing with players. I think this is an example of why players are going to succeed with getting rid of the franchise tag. When you invest 5 years into a QB developing him, to have him leave for a sunnier place or crazy money, then you use it. But for a 28 year-old safety on a team that has the worst overall roster in the league, this seems wrong to me. GIve him 3 x $10mm, $20 guaranteed. I would have no problem with giving him 3 years at 10MM per for 30M guaranteed. That means that he is a Jet through his 31st birthday, and still in his prime. I like your thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Alka said: Sorry to have to correct you. Jamal Adams is 0-1 in the Playoffs. Marcus Maye is 0-0 in the playoffs. lol Details, details! Neither one of them has won a playoff game, but I guess 0-1 makes Jamalmouth first place loser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 9:59 AM, Beerfish said: 2020 Jamal: 3 passes defended, 1 forced fumble, 0 fumble recoveries, 0 interceptions, 83 combined tackles Maye: 11 passes defended, 2 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, 2 interceptions, 88 combined tackles But jamalaboutme had more sacks when not blocked, poaching at the line of scrimmage, play maker! Ok but Adams had 9.5 sacks in 12 games. Maye had 2 sacks in 16 games. So that's a big difference. Lets just keep things in perspective. They are different types of players who literally play different positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 He’s kept quiet, been productive & never complained. We probably should just give him a long term extension.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, varjet said: JD should be focusing on building a team for 2022-2023. Franchising Maye does nothing to accomplish that unless it is a threat to get him to agree to a reasonable longer term deal. Maye should have been extended in 2020, which would have required paying him more in 2020 (we had the money) but less later. I thought drafting Ashtyn Davis was also a way to build through the draft and not pay decent but not All Pro players $10mm+ to extend them. Maye will get hurt playing more of a SS role, particularly after he gets money in the bank. As I have said before, I like JD, and his expanded staff gives me hope, but his actual 2020 draft picks and signings were very iffy. The Becton/Wirfs choice was also not a slamdunk. If you were drafting a LT it sure was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, PepPep said: Ok but Adams had 9.5 sacks in 12 games. Maye had 2 sacks in 16 games. So that's a big difference. Lets just keep things in perspective. They are different types of players who literally play different positions. They are both safeties and you do not have to totally compromise your defense to use marcus maye ... and he creates turnovers. As I said, watch his sacks, he is unblocked on most of them. He is also terrible in coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 19 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'm all for ripping on Jamal but that is 12 games from Jamal and 16 games from Maye Surely Jamal would have gotten 2 INTs, 1 FF and 8 PDs in 4 games to make up the difference. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, PepPep said: Ok but Adams had 9.5 sacks in 12 games. Maye had 2 sacks in 16 games. So that's a big difference. Lets just keep things in perspective. They are different types of players who literally play different positions. Adams' 9.5 sacks came on 98 blitz attempts. And when he failed to get to the QB, it exposed the rest of the secondary. Maye's 2 sacks, meanwhile, came on 23 blitz attempts. So on a % basis, his sack productivity was nearly proportional to Adams'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Surely Jamal would have gotten 2 INTs, 1 FF and 8 PDs in 4 games to make up the difference. ? Well apparently it's now some sort of great defense of a player if he doesn't play, even if over multiple years and the teams still perform as well, if not better, in his absence. But hey, credit where it's due, it's a pretty unique bonding experience with an NFL player when the one thing most fans can always feel we have in common with Jamal is our total number of career INTs of starting QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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