Augustiniak Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said: If a decent offer is made, Sam is gonzo. It sounds like the main point of this presser was to beg teams to trade for darnold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: It sounds like the main point of this presser was to beg teams to trade for darnold. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Just what I was going to post. So the question is, Mac Jones or Trey Lance? I really like Jones, and I think he will be ready to play early. Lance's upside is huge, but he probably needs a year on the bench behind a veteran. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Just what I was going to post. So the question is, Mac Jones or Trey Lance? Idk - but the quote from the HC on how they like the depth at QB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: It sounds like the main point of this presser was to beg teams to trade for darnold. Yup. The for sign sale was put in the front yard. But just as important, it was to tell the fans what the expectations should be for this team. Most jet fans want to spend like drunken sailors in free agency, win 8 games next year and be stuck in mediocrity moving forward. And that is not happening. This will be a patient rebuild through the draft. Winning games is not the goal in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, section314 said: Not one guy asked him about Morgan? Isn’t that the blond chick on The Good Doctor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Yup. The for sign sale was put in the front yard. But just as important, it was to tell the fans what the expectations should be for this team. Most jet fans want to spend like drunken sailors in free agency, win 8 games next year and be stuck in mediocrity moving forward. And that is not happening. This will be a patient rebuild through the draft. Winning games is not the goal in 2021. And if you read into it you have to figure the offers thus far have been underwhelming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nyjbuddy Posted March 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2021 In Summary: If Joe Douglas is to be taken at his word: The Jets believe Sam Darnold will be the QB next year but will listen to offers Want to sign Marcus Maye to a long term deal, recent tweets have no impact Build through the draft, supplement with free agents Not willing to trade a bunch of picks for one player (i.e. Weshaun Datson) Or it's lying season in the NFL: Sam Darnold is available for the right price Want to sign Marcus Maye but sent a message to his agent it's game on. "part of the business, part of negotiating" Message to free agents: "We ain't overpaying", our draftees are the future Message to the Texans: If you need to trade Watson and you want number 2, your rumored asking price (via McClain) is too high 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: And that is not happening. This will be a patient rebuild through the draft. Winning games is not the goal in 2021. Ahh, yes, the 'rebuild' of the 'rebuild' of the 'rebuild'. Let's hope it all works out in 3 more years! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Feleipe Franks, Day 3. I really hate him as a prospect and as a college QB. He just stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Ahh, yes, the 'rebuild' of the 'rebuild' of the 'rebuild'. Let's hope it all works out in 3 more years! The rebuild that never ends here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, nyjbuddy said: In Summary: If Joe Douglas is to be taken at his word: The Jets believe Sam Darnold will be the QB next year but will listen to offers Want to sign Marcus Maye to a long term deal, recent tweets have no impact Build through the draft, supplement with free agents Not willing to trade a bunch of picks for one player (i.e. Weshaun Datson) Let's be honest. This is likely the reality. Sam is not getting traded unless the Jets can get a haul of picks for him, and that's not likely going to happen. Watson is a complete pipedream unless the Texans are willing to trade him for reasonable compensation (i.e. #2 overall and a 2022 second rounder). I get the feeling that none of the quarterbacks in this draft (other than possibly Lawrence) are really wowing Douglas and the Jets. The closer we get to the draft, the more I think Douglas is going one of two options: 1) trade down or 2) Penei Sewell. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Darnold is a goner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bungaman said: Get me Trey Lance. And then the big TE. THAT would be a nice first round. That big TE will go before Trey Lance ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted March 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2021 So, in summary, before the presser, half the board assumed Sam would be back and half the board assumed he would be traded. Now, after the presser, it still sounds like half the board assumes Sam will be back and half the board assumes he will be traded. Glad they clarified it for us, lol. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oatmeal Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lith said: So, in summary, before the presser, half the board assumed Sam would be back and half the board assumed he would be traded. Now, after the presser, it still sounds like half the board assumes Sam will be back and half the board assumes he will be traded. Glad they clarified it for us, lol. I mean another press conference and still no commitment to Darnold and the GM actually said he would entertain trade offers for Sam. If this was anyone else it would be no questions on what happens next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Quote The Jets believe Sam Darnold will be the QB next year but will listen to offers He never said this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 JD is the master of saying nothing of value in these conferences and I love it. It's what a GM should do If he told me the sky was blue I would have reservations 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Jets’ Joe Douglas says he’s open to trading Sam Darnold — and of course he should be Updated 1:21 PM; Today 1:07 PM New York Jets quarterback Sam Darnold could be traded. Andrew Mills | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Facebook Share Twitter Share By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com Jets general manager Joe Douglas said last season that quarterback Sam Darnold was untouchable, in terms of another team trading for him. Douglas on Wednesday said that is no longer the case — and that he is willing to listen to trade offers for Darnold, who has mostly underwhelmed through three seasons. This is the first time Douglas has this directly stated his openness to dealing Darnold. Earlier this offseason, Douglas essentially said he was open to it — by being noncommittal when asked about Darnold’s status with the Jets for 2021. “I will answer the call if it’s made,” Douglas said of trade inquiries about Darnold. And of course he should answer the call, because it sure looks like Darnold isn’t a franchise quarterback. Yet maybe Douglas can still get something from a quarterback-needy team for him this offseason. Sure, some of Darnold’s struggles over the past three seasons stem from a lackluster supporting cast and porous offensive line. Yes, Adam Gase’s inept coaching the past two seasons did little to help Darnold. But unless the Jets really think new coach Robert Saleh’s staff can magically fix Darnold in 2021 — the likely final year of his rookie contract — then at least listening to trade offers makes perfectly reasonable sense. Douglas would be foolish to not listen. Saleh brought in Mike LaFleur to be his offensive coordinator. So LaFleur must determine if Darnold can succeed in his Mike Shanahan-style West Coast offense. Darnold played in that offense as a rookie — with Jeremy Bates as his coordinator and position coach — and he did have some success in the scheme. But he wasn’t able to build on that from 2019-20. As for Darnold’s contract, Douglas likely won’t pick up his fifth-year option this offseason. The option — for 2022, at $18.7 million — is now fully guaranteed immediately, under the new collective bargaining agreement. That’s too much of an investment to make in Darnold, considering his lackluster track record. While saying Wednesday he is willing to listen to Darnold trade offers, Douglas also praised Darnold, because of course he did. It’s not like he’s going to say “we think this guy stinks,” because that wouldn’t do much to boost Darnold’s trade value, would it? “Sam is, we think, a dynamic player in this league, with unbelievable talent,” Douglas said. “He really has a chance to hit his outstanding potential moving forward. But if calls are made, I will answer them.” Douglas said he has “no hard timeline in the immediate future to make a decision” on whether Darnold might be traded. All indications point to Douglas entering free agency (which begins March 15) with plenty of quarterback uncertainty, since he probably won’t have a better handle on what he wants to do with the position until closer to the NFL Draft in late April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I really hate him as a prospect and as a college QB. He just stinks. Too much of a hot dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, Icer said: JD is the master of saying nothing of value in these conferences and I love it. It's what a GM should do If he told me the sky was blue I would have reservations Right and there's no benefit to the GM giving real responses. Committing to clear direction lowers the value of his negotiation options. I don't know why people get upset that nothing of substance has been said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Well that was boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, oatmeal said: I mean another press conference and still no commitment to Darnold and the GM actually said he would entertain trade offers for Sam. If this was anyone else it would be no questions on what happens next What is the benefit of committing to Darnold right now? He had a poor season in 2020, and a decision needs to be made on his 5th year option a few days after the draft. The Jets are not going to "commit" to Darnold until after the first round of the draft is complete and a quarterback was not selected. They are also not going to "uncommit" from Darnold until he is officially traded or a quarterback is selected in the first round. A presser on March 3 literally means nothing. This is the way businesses are run and position themselves for numerous options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: Since Eric Gelfand came on board the Jets don't live stream their GM press conferences unless it is required. Expect the video to be posted later. The video is posted https://www.newyorkjets.com/video/joe-douglas-robert-saleh-offseason-press-conference-3-3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted March 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The rebuild that never ends here. We have never done a legitimate, correct rebuild where we were patient and built through the draft. Having a down year and then signing multiple guys in free agency to bad contracts and getting 8 or 9 wins the following year is not a rebuild. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: What is the benefit of committing to Darnold right now? He had a poor season in 2020, and a decision needs to be made on his 5th year option a few days after the draft. The Jets are not going to "commit" to Darnold until after the first round of the draft is complete and a quarterback was not selected. They are also not going to "uncommit" from Darnold until he is officially traded or a quarterback is selected in the first round. A presser on March 3 literally means nothing. This is the way businesses are run and position themselves for numerous options. Umm this is not how the NFL historically operates, when there’s questions surrounding the starting QB, the GM / team always will step in front of it. If Sam was the guy it would’ve been at least announced today, with free agency right around the corner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Right and there's no benefit to the GM giving real responses. Committing to clear direction lowers the value of his negotiation options. I don't know why people get upset that nothing of substance has been said. This is exactly right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Umm this is not how the NFL historically operates, when there’s questions surrounding the starting QB, the GM / team always will step in front of it. If Sam was the guy it would’ve been at least announced today, with free agency right around the corner The only thing that could be holding this off is the workouts and meet and greets with the QB's. I suspect they like the QB they like - but aren't moving until they can meet the kid and see him in person - essentially due diligence at this point. My guess is Darnold gets moved very quickly after that. They probably have an offer or two on the table for Sam, but will fish for more while they're waiting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsbb said: It is such chicken sh*t that they don't stream it live. Jets media department is a colossal disaster. You could have created a new thread about this. What a waste. SAR I 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, nyjbuddy said: I am hearing Trade down for Trey or even Jones!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 lmfao just seen this ?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackExchangeNYJ Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 We get it. Fans, especially New York fans, hate rebuilds. It would be a lot easier to just throw money at older free agents, deal picks for veterans, and be a competitive 9 or so win team now, rather than go through the pain of sucking while letting young players develop. Truth is, Tannenbaum did it that way. It made the team competitive, but not a champion. Idzik and Maccagnan did not draft well enough for their "rebuilds" to have any steam. We've never actually seen a rebuild where the Jets have a front office that can draft well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SAR I Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: This will be a patient rebuild through the draft. Winning games is not the goal in 2021. Let's all let Joe Douglas get away with that while running Adam Gase out of town for lack of "patience". Douglas inherited a team with more talent than the one he's presiding over now. He took a team that finished a respectable 6-2 and made it worse. Isn't it about time he made it better? SAR I 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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