varjet 4,157 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I saw a review of last year’s Jets draft. Hall was the best value. Morgan was the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Count of Monte Cristo 177 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Is Tom Brady available? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 26,934 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: Is Tom Brady available? If he truly is the GOAT sign with NY Jets and win a Super Bowl here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Island 4,465 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 CJ for Jimmy straight up!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Defense Wins Championships 3,352 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 For a veteran; Alex Smith. He's 37 years of age but unlike the likes of career losers in Fitzpatrick and McCown; Alex Smith is a winner. I'd love for him to mentor a young kid Zach Wilson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post mrcoops 5,580 Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Defense Wins Championships said: For a veteran; Alex Smith. He's 37 years of age but unlike the likes of career losers in Fitzpatrick and McCown; Alex Smith is a winner. I'd love for him to mentor a young kid Zach Wilson. Didn't Smith retire? He's earned a gazillion dollars during his NFL career, and is getting out while he can still walk. Smart man. If we add a veteran backup at this point, it will be someone like Brian Hoyer. Not a lot left out there. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jackie Treehorn 941 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Not the most encouraging list. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post mrcoops 5,580 Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 There's a decent chance that the Jets may be waiting for Nick Mullens' medicals to check out (he had off-season elbow surgery) before signing him to be the backup. He would be a solid choice - has experience in the system, and has started quite a few NFL games with a decent level of success. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neckdemon 50,709 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 3/5/2021 at 1:44 AM, Nixhead said: Who should the Jets sign to backup Zach Wilson? That guy right up there. Lol the suck part makes me laugh every time i see it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
static14 1,553 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 it's looking more and more like the backup is all ready on the team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JiFapono 153,065 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 3/4/2021 at 8:49 PM, Jets Things said: Bro, Ohio St. QB's, blah blah blah.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big_Slick 2,038 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 3/4/2021 at 8:49 PM, Guilhermezmc said: Put some respect on James Morgan name sir Seriously if for some reason Wilson can't go I'd really like to see what we spent a 4th rounder on last year. We're not winning or making the playoffs this season and to pay to have a legit backup who can maybe win an extra game or two serves no purpose but to hurt our draft picks next year. Get a legit backup when we have a legit chance in one or two years. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sperm Edwards 348,604 Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Big_Slick said: Seriously if for some reason Wilson can't go I'd really like to see what we spent a 4th rounder on last year. We're not winning or making the playoffs this season and to pay to have a legit backup who can maybe win an extra game or two serves no purpose but to hurt our draft picks next year. Get a legit backup when we have a legit chance in one or two years. There's kinda a tiny problem with that logic: there are a few other guys on the team. It's just possible 40 other guys suiting up might not want to risk permanent injury for Morgan to have tryouts against other teams. Also it's a pretty young team, and it's also possible the coaches & FO might want to better assess what else they've got & what they need after this season, instead of grading others too much or too little on a curve to account for Morgan. Just throwing that out there. They don't need to put Morgan on the field in regular games just because you & other the fans didn't get to see him in practice like the coaches did. The Jets aren't tanking for draft slots just because Wilson isn't ready to play week 1, or even if he gets injured. They got their high pick QB, and should be trying to play as well as they can so they're all ready when Wilson does take the field. Never mind what if he's maybe not ready by week 1 but then has calmed down & looks ready to go by week 4 -- the team should dig itself into an 0-4 hole behind Morgan's tryouts? Humans aren't robots or on/off light switches, with the idea that it's ok for everyone to get used to playing like garbage because no one cares or is trying with the backup QB; but then all that is expected to instantly change with the flip of a switch once Wilson is the QB. If they don't think Morgan is passable (), even for a few games, then they should sign another QB2. Particularly a young roster, with a staff of coaches not just in the first year with this team but in the first year under their current job titles. A team of such young players & coaches performing well has value beyond whether or not they're contenders. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rayzor 754 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I've always said Hoyer should be the guy. He'd literally cost $1M but it's his experience in the offense and the intimate knowledge of the AFC defenses that make him the best option. We're not looking for a guy to win really. Someone that can help Wilson. Teach him the Patriot and Dolphin defenses. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UntouchableCrew 6,693 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 It's really odd to me we haven't signed anyone yet. Nick Mullens kind of sucks but he knows the system and has played a bunch of games in recent years -- kind of seems like a no brainer to me. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 26,934 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 37 minutes ago, rayzor said: I've always said Hoyer should be the guy. He'd literally cost $1M but it's his experience in the offense and the intimate knowledge of the AFC defenses that make him the best option. We're not looking for a guy to win really. Someone that can help Wilson. He sucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe W. Namath 7,123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 They are waiting to see if Mullins is healthy come July. If not, maybe driskell, hoyer or barkley. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rayzor 754 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: He sucks. No argument there. I did say we're not looking for a guy that can win. It's his knowledge that i think is valuable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ncjetman 186 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 whatever backup we sign will suck - unless a foles trade and he pretty much sucks too but sucks less than some others - it’s really simple - wilson shows enough to,start week one and while taking rookie qb lumps progresses nicely through the season - if he really falters or gets hurt and is out for any length of time we’re seriously screwed- there isn’t any backup that will make a difference Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebag 7,963 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Can we just sign Matt Moore then at half-time of home games, have pre-selected season ticket holders come down from the stands and kick him in the 'nads? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoubleDown 7,193 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1) Nick Mullens (if healthy) 2) Brian Hoyer (fallback option) Hoyer was in for a workout with the Jets a few weeks ago. My guess is the Jets' first choice is Mullens who knows the system well. If he isn't healthy enough for the start of camp, they'll sign Hoyer. Morgan will get every chance to earn the backup spot in camp, but they still need another camp arm. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 31,552 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Quote Who should the Jets sign to backup Zach Wilson? No one. Counter Question: Why do the Jets "need" to sign someone to backup Wilson? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lith 21,811 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 hours ago, Jackie Treehorn said: Not the most encouraging list. Gabbert re-signed with Tampa and Bortles just signed with GB. I assume either Hoyer, who visited with us last month, or Mullens will be added to the roster for the start of camp. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Warfish 31,552 Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: There's kinda a tiny problem with that logic: there are a few other guys on the team. It's just possible 40 other guys suiting up might not want to risk permanent injury for Morgan to have tryouts against other teams. Also it's a pretty young team, and it's also possible the coaches & FO might want to better assess what else they've got & what they need after this season, instead of grading others too much or too little on a curve to account for Morgan. Just throwing that out there. They don't need to put Morgan on the field in regular games just because you & other the fans didn't get to see him in practice like the coaches did. The Jets aren't tanking for draft slots just because Wilson isn't ready to play week 1, or even if he gets injured. They got their high pick QB, and should be trying to play as well as they can so they're all ready when Wilson does take the field. Never mind what if he's maybe not ready by week 1 but then has calmed down & looks ready to go by week 4 -- the team should dig itself into an 0-4 hole behind Morgan's tryouts? Humans aren't robots or on/off light switches, with the idea that it's ok for everyone to get used to playing like garbage because no one cares or is trying with the backup QB; but then all that is expected to instantly change with the flip of a switch once Wilson is the QB. If they don't think Morgan is passable (), even for a few games, then they should sign another QB2. Particularly a young roster, with a staff of coaches not just in the first year with this team but in the first year under their current job titles. A team of such young players & coaches performing well has value beyond whether or not they're contenders. Wilson is going to start week 1. Morgan is as adequate a backup as any of the losers available in FA. This is, IMO, the single most overwrought question in sports. There is no need whatsoever to sign some other JAG to sit behind Wilson. Somehow other NFL teams manage to start young backup QB's and their teams don't all mass-ragequit over it. I am sure ours won't either. A "veteran backup" is basically only needed if you are a Super Bowl contender. Otherwise, it's a waste of assets, teams should be developing their own young backups, not paying some old man to hold a clipboard and pat their #1 QB on the back and make jokes about "back in my day....". JMO, I'm perfectly happy to go into 2021 with Wilson, Morgan, White. Anyway, what's the worry, we were told endlessly in the leadup to this draft that Wilson's not an injury risk, his size isn't an issue. So why are we worrying about him missing time? 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
section314 9,947 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 4 minutes ago, Lith said: Gabbert re-signed with Tampa and Bortles just signed with GB. I assume either Hoyer, who visited with us last month, or Mullens will be added to the roster for the start of camp. Matt Moore wouldn't be terrible either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flgreen 29,842 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Nobody is going to like this but IMO they aren't going to sign anyone for awhile. They will look at Morgan thru OTA's and maybe June camp. If He isn't where they can trust him to fill in as a back up, they'll sign Hoyer. Sorry, but I think that's the way it will go. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 211,663 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Lith said: Gabbert re-signed with Tampa and Bortles just signed with GB. I assume either Hoyer, who visited with us last month, or Mullens will be added to the roster for the start of camp. Mullens is still rehabbing. They think he will be ready in time for camp, but you can never be sure. Once he is cleared he will sign. Good chance that it is with the Jets. If he is not ready they will probably jump back on Hoyer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnysd 9,078 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 3/4/2021 at 5:47 PM, GreekJet said: CJ Beathard makes a lot of sense. Don’t think I would re-sign the corpse of Joe Flacco. Let Beathard and Wilson battle it out in camp. No one. We have plenty of coaching for Zach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnysd 9,078 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 59 minutes ago, Warfish said: Wilson is going to start week 1. Morgan is as adequate a backup as any of the losers available in FA. This is, IMO, the single most overwrought question in sports. There is no need whatsoever to sign some other JAG to sit behind Wilson. Somehow other NFL teams manage to start young backup QB's and their teams don't all mass-ragequit over it. I am sure ours won't either. A "veteran backup" is basically only needed if you are a Super Bowl contender. Otherwise, it's a waste of assets, teams should be developing their own young backups, not paying some old man to hold a clipboard and pat their #1 QB on the back and make jokes about "back in my day....". JMO, I'm perfectly happy to go into 2021 with Wilson, Morgan, White. Anyway, what's the worry, we were told endlessly in the leadup to this draft that Wilson's not an injury risk, his size isn't an issue. So why are we worrying about him missing time? Agree 100%. We do not need a backup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 26,934 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 A viable backup plan/QB is needed. All the decent free agent QB's have been signed. Once again its scrap heap shopping time for the NY Jets. If its James Captain Morgan so be it just hope he's not Luke Falk II Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoubleDown 7,193 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Warfish said: No one. Counter Question: Why do the Jets "need" to sign someone to backup Wilson? "Need" is a strong word, but it would be nice if the QB room had someone with some starting experience under their belt. Mentorship isn't the end all be all, but there is value to it. It's nice to have a peer to bounce ideas or thoughts off of who is not a coach or someone you report to. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 348,604 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 43 minutes ago, Warfish said: Wilson is going to start week 1. Morgan is as adequate a backup as any of the losers available in FA. This is, IMO, the single most overwrought question in sports. There is no need whatsoever to sign some other JAG to sit behind Wilson. Somehow other NFL teams manage to start young backup QB's and their teams don't all mass-ragequit over it. I am sure ours won't either. A "veteran backup" is basically only needed if you are a Super Bowl contender. Otherwise, it's a waste of assets, teams should be developing their own young backups, not paying some old man to hold a clipboard and pat their #1 QB on the back and make jokes about "back in my day....". JMO, I'm perfectly happy to go into 2021 with Wilson, Morgan, White. Anyway, what's the worry, we were told endlessly in the leadup to this draft that Wilson's not an injury risk, his size isn't an issue. So why are we worrying about him missing time? We don't even know if Morgan is adequate enough to make the roster yet. Last year he wasn't even good enough to be the 3rd string QB; it's a role he filled in name alone; whenever Darnold or Flacco was down, they signed White off the street to automatically leapfrog Morgan. If they think Morgan's usable on the field this year, fine. I'm in favor of that. Presumably the reason he was drafted in the first place was to be the team's QB2. If he enters camp as the QB2 and looks both awful and clueless, they should bring in someone else. What I'm not ok with is automatically naming Morgan - nor Mike White, who couldn't even make the Cowboys' practice squad - the QB2 for the season even if both look like Hackenberg2 or Falk2 on the field. Let alone that this is desirable for the team to lose on purpose in Wilson's absence (i.e. the idea there should be only two team options: either start Wilson, or tank any/all non-Wilson games for higher draft picks). This has nothing to do with a reflexive desire to bench Wilson, nor because he might or might not be thought of as more injury prone. I'm hardly one of those already saying in May, before any full team practices, that he needs to be benched; quite the opposite. The default with him should be starting Wilson, unless they think they need to work on his delivery or footwork or if he's not grasping the playbook or something, in which case bad/panic habits can get reinforced. Absent that, he's the QB. It's more a matter of the offense needs to be able to run even if the starter is out (particularly if it's for a few weeks or more). Not just for winning games, but because there are other players that need work, and it's terrible for team morale if we're just trotting the next Luke Falk onto the field. The blind leading the blind is not a good extended situation to have, let alone to do it on purpose to maximize a future draft pick. A QB doesn't "develop" any better just because he's being promoted into a role if he's unsuited for that role (just like Wilson also shouldn't start if he looks totally awful/lost). Anyway, other than serving to satisfying the GM's ego I don't see the big advantage of a drafted QB2 vs. a veteran QB2 making at/around the league minimum. Totally different animal to bringing in Josh McCown for ~$10MM, which I'd agree is stewpid. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Obrien2Toon 4,373 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: They are waiting to see if Mullins is healthy come July. If not, maybe driskell, hoyer or barkley. I really like Mullins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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