Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 With all this hype around Zach Wilson being a stud puts Douglas in a real position of power with any negotiating with Houston. Honestly, if Wilson is the real deal he’s being hyped up to be Douglas doesn’t have to offer much more than pick 2 in trade talks. It would put Houston in a tough position cause obviously they want to replace Watson with a viable QB and if all the other guys are question marks Wilson should be their main target. But the talk of giving up 3 or 4 1st round picks is a pipe dream. Douglas could say “here’s pick 2 that’s all you’re getting”. If you don’t want that have fun picking Trey Lance or whoever. 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Exactly the right approach. Even throw in a 2nd round pick if you have to, but no more. Fields will be very bit as good as Watson by the time the jets are ready to compete if not better. 2 3 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 And how exactly would anyone know that Wilson or anyone for that matter is the real deal? Youre overthinking this, especially since its unlikely to happen. No matter how much you want it to happen 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Flea Flicking Frank said: Exactly the right approach. Even throw in a 2nd round pick if you have to, but no more. Fields will be very bit as good as Watson by the time the jets are ready to compete if not better. Watson might be the best QB in football. There's an argument to be made that he's better than Mahomes. 6 3 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 Yes, the Jets need to determine an offer value, put that to the Texans IF they are even listening. Do not get into a bidding war and put a deadline on the offer, such as a week before the draft. Then move on if nothing happens by that time. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Flea Flicking Frank said: Exactly the right approach. Even throw in a 2nd round pick if you have to, but no more. Fields will be very bit as good as Watson by the time the jets are ready to compete if not better. I'll bet anything right now that Fields isnt as good, if not better, than Watson is right now. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flea Flicking Frank Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: Watson might be the best QB in football. There's an argument to be made that he's better than Mahomes. Lol, that’s a really bad argument. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Embrace the Suck Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 If they deem Wilson is the real deal they probably aren't trading for Watson. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: Watson might be the best QB in football. There's an argument to be made that he's better than Mahomes. No, there is ZERO argument to that. Watson is closer to Cousins and Stafford at this point than he is to Mahommes or Rodgers 9 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I'll bet anything right now that Fields isnt as good, if not better, than Watson is right now. Of course not, that wasn’t my premise nor my point. And the jets aren’t ready to compete right now either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 Think about it from Houston’s perspective. Would you rather have Carolinas pick 8 and I guess 2 more of their 1st round picks where the odds of getting a top QB with any of those are slim to none. Or would you rather have the top prospect QB in the draft? I’d rather go with the QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: If they deem Wilson is the real deal they probably aren't trading for Watson. true, but I doubt that's how they feel. If Mikey can call offense and the system run as it did in San Fran it won't really matter the QB as you've seen. also he won't be here more than a year, he'll be a "hot HC candidate" next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: If they deem Wilson is the real deal they probably aren't trading for Watson. Case closed. Or Fields for that matter. If you are sold on either or, pick him. Simple. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Beerfish said: No, there is ZERO argument to that. Watson is closer to Cousins and Stafford at this point than he is to Mahommes or Rodgers He was better than Mahomes last year with a worse offensive line, no running game, a fired coaching staff as opposed to a hall of fame one, no Travis Kelce to throw to, no Tyreek Hill AND lost one of the best 2 or 3 receivers in football. He beat Mahomes by 4 percentage points in completions, had a higher passer rating, beat him by almost a yard in yards per attempt. The only way you can say there is no argument is if you're basing your opinion only on perception. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Lol, that’s a really bad argument. You can lol all you want but see my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: If they deem Wilson is the real deal they probably aren't trading for Watson. Russell is pretty damn good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Savage69 Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 I know I'm in the vast minority but there is something satisfying watching your team come together mainly through the draft get better and win the Bowl. The 1968 season and the Jan 12 Bowl win was special. Now everyone wants to buy the best players using cash or draft picks.. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: I know I'm in the vast minority but there is something satisfying watching your team come together mainly through the draft get better and win the Bowl. The 1968 season and the Jan 12 Bowl win was special. Now everyone wants to buy the best players using cash or draft picks.. I want women to like me for my sense of humor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Mahomes is statistically better in most ways, but one could argue that his coaching and weapons are far superior to what Watson works with. Personally, I would rank the QBs Mahomes - Watson - Rodgers taking age into account. Wilson is showing cracks around the edges lately and while he's still very good, at 32 I'm not spending a lot to get him. Rodgers probably has 5 more years of being awesome which is why I have him 3rd. He is probably the best passer who ever played the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 If Wilson really has materialized as a blue chip prospect up there with Trevor, Douglas is in a great position. Either tell Houston that we’ll give you pick 2 and that’s it. Or we roll with Wilson. Houston can then trade Watson to Miami or whoever and scratch their heads on who to take at QB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: I want women to like me for my sense of humor Well that's at least slightly better than aspiring to be the guy they come to for a shoulder to cry on after they get ghosted by the guy they picked up at the bar last weekend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 All this talk of building the team through the draft is laughable. Joe Douglas has yet to prove he can build a team through the draft...have the Jets ever built a team through the draft? I'm not talking about hitting on a couple of players here and there, I'm talking about building a solid team through the draft and the answer is no. Watson doesn't have to prove a thing...and for all you stat guys, his stats speak for themselves. If I were a betting guy and I'm not, I'm putting my money on a proven thing and not draft picks. Jets can still build a sold team through FA and whatever draft picks we have left if you truly believe JD is this draft guru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: Well that's at least slightly better than aspiring to be the guy they come to for a shoulder to cry on after they get ghosted by the guy they picked up at the bar last weekend. LOL Should I try that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: With all this hype around Zach Wilson being a stud puts Douglas in a real position of power with any negotiating with Houston. Honestly, if Wilson is the real deal he’s being hyped up to be Douglas doesn’t have to offer much more than pick 2 in trade talks. It would put Houston in a tough position cause obviously they want to replace Watson with a viable QB and if all the other guys are question marks Wilson should be their main target. But the talk of giving up 3 or 4 1st round picks is a pipe dream. Douglas could say “here’s pick 2 that’s all you’re getting”. If you don’t want that have fun picking Trey Lance or whoever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: I want women to like me for my sense of humor That always worked for me but it helps if your really funny.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 With one of our picks being #2 and able to replace the QB position for Houston. I’d offer: • both 1sts this year • one 1st next year • Sam Darnold (to start while rookie gets ready...or give Houston the option of trading down from #2 for a haul.) for Watson. That’s my take it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: You can lol all you want but see my post above. I’m good, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just now, Flea Flicking Frank said: I’m good, thanks. Yes, yes you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: With one of our picks being #2 and able to replace the QB position for Houston. I’d offer: • both 1sts this year • one 1st next year • Sam Darnold (to start while rookie gets ready...or give Houston the option of trading down from #2 for a haul.) for Watson. That’s my take it or leave it. I doubt Darnold would be a sweetener. They're going to go QB with number two and ruin my boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: With one of our picks being #2 and able to replace the QB position for Houston. I’d offer: • both 1sts this year • one 1st next year • Sam Darnold (to start while rookie gets ready...or give Houston the option of trading down from #2 for a haul.) for Watson. That’s my take it or leave it. That’s way too much. Offer them pick 2, and that’s it! If they don’t want to pick the next hot QB then it’s their loss. I’d rather roll with Wilson and all the picks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Count of Monte Cristo said: Watson might be the best QB in football. There's an argument to be made that he's better than Mahomes. Totally agree. Just take a look at the Lombardi’s lying around in Watson’s backyard. If I had a dollar for every time this argument was remotely entertained, I’d still be broke af. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 Remember, Houston is the desperate team here. Douglas has no reason to give up all these picks with Wilson sitting right in his lap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Totally agree. Just take a look at the Lombardi’s lying around in Watson’s backyard. If I had a dollar for every time this argument was remotely entertained, I’d still be broke af. Dan Marino was a bum too. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, now those are QBs 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count of Monte Cristo Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Remember, Houston is the desperate team here. Douglas has no reason to give up all these picks with Wilson sitting right in his lap. So he's going to Miami then. Cool! We can eat around that part of the pizza and go undefeated in the other twelve games a year for the next ten years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: With one of our picks being #2 and able to replace the QB position for Houston. I’d offer: • both 1sts this year • one 1st next year • Sam Darnold (to start while rookie gets ready...or give Houston the option of trading down from #2 for a haul.) for Watson. That’s my take it or leave it. this is the absolute maximum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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