Peace Frog Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: @Peace Frog One year wonder in a Covid year when teams were missing some of their best players and Alabama was fully loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 14 hours ago, freestater said: OG Gram Gram lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I think Mac Jones looks very good. Accurate, decent arm, reads the field well, gets the ball out quickly. Not fleet of foot, but moves well in the pocket. Has the look of a productive NFL starter to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/7/2021 at 6:11 PM, RVAJet815 said: It's a very rare system in this league that knows what to do with a true pocket passer like Mac anymore. I love that he has a good head on his shoulders but he's a statue. In the 90s nfl, yeah maybe. so its better to have a mobile QB who can gain yards on the ground and be dynamic as hell but throw ducks up for 90 yards when it really counts in the playoffs vs a defense that can contain the running aspect of his game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Mac Jones = Matt Ryan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: so its better to have a mobile QB who can gain yards on the ground and be dynamic as hell but throw ducks up for 90 yards when it really counts in the playoffs vs a defense that can contain the running aspect of his game ? I mean if you think that’s what Zach is...um, sure? The ideal is to have a good QB prospect. And in general terms, a mobile QB prospect is going to get more looks than one who isn’t. It’s just that simple. That’s just where the league is right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said: I mean if you think that’s what Zach is...um, sure? The ideal is to have a good QB prospect. And in general terms, a mobile QB prospect is going to get more looks than one who isn’t. It’s just that simple. That’s just where the league is right now. I'm saying that's what Lamar Jackson is ... Brady the most immobile keeps winning SB's I wonder sometimes how did Brady, Manning, Rothlesburger, Brees, Rodgers, all pocket passers ever make it in this league. How many SB's did these guys account for the last 15 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I'll say the same thing about Jones I said earlier about Fields: I have an open bias around drafting QBs from colleges stacked with NFL-level talent. Naming Alabama QBs from decades past just isn't comparable. College football, like the NFL, is a totally different game now. Offenses play fast and pass more to take advantage of disparities in talent and experience. That disparity doesn't exist in the NFL. It's hard to know if a player can mature into great play when he's only played with the disparities always cutting in his favor. Some of them will be good QBs but the majority tend not to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 12:03 AM, Mazz said: Can someone enlighten me as to why Mac Jones isn't in consideration for pick number 2? Is the consensus that he cannot create with his legs the same way Wilson or Fields can? Why do most seem to disregard all of the intangibles and basic fundamentals that he possesses? I mean he has a commanding presence in the pocket, has a strong mental as well as arm strength. His accuracy is pretty amazing, therefore it begs the question why is he not projected ahead of the non Trevor Lawrence QBs? No real reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Peace Frog said: One year wonder in a Covid year when teams were missing some of their best players and Alabama was fully loaded. And you can say those same exact things about Fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Philc1 said: And you can say those same exact things about Fields Who are you? I wasn’t talking about not do I care about Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 4:12 PM, Peace Frog said: Who are you? I wasn’t talking about not do I care about Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Simple. Skill-set wise, He’s not as good as Fields nor Wilson. He’ll make a great Patriot however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Again, who are you? I was talking neither about Fields nor anyone else’s opinion about him. You don’t read so good, do you. Or maybe it’s just an inability to understand? But feel free to carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 These QB's are not evaluated by their stats or college success... But rather how the scouts believe their overall skill-set will translate to the NFL game. No one's saying he's a bad QB - just that there are 4 or 5 other guys that scouts believe are better suited for the NFL game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 10:35 AM, mrcoops said: I think Mac Jones looks very good. Accurate, decent arm, reads the field well, gets the ball out quickly. Not fleet of foot, but moves well in the pocket. Has the look of a productive NFL starter to me. I fully expect if he goes to a good NFL system with talent around him and a solid offensive line he will be a successful NFL QB. The only thing you question about him is if his potential is capped because of the physical limitations. His arm is better than average, but you are seeing in the NFL now how much offenses benefit from a + arm. The same can be said about mobility, Jones is a good athlete, but he's not a great athlete for the position, He moves well in the pocket, slides around, can run a little if you force him to, but he's not going to make things happen with his legs. So to me while I like him as a player for all the reasons you described (smart, practiced in a full read progression passing game, good accuracy, good arm, good feet, good mechanics), I just don't see the pure potential that you see with guys like wilson or fields or even lance for that matter (although I'd put him ahead of lance, purely because I just dont know enough about Lance to make a judgement). To me he's a top 20 pick for sure, I just dont think i'd pull the trigger top 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: These QB's are not evaluated by their stats or college success... But rather how the scouts believe their overall skill-set will translate to the NFL game. No one's saying he's a bad QB - just that there are 4 or 5 other guys that scouts believe are better suited for the NFL game. You need to provide Bit with proof. Evidence. 100% certitude. You know, stuff that doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) On 3/8/2021 at 10:26 PM, QB1 said: Mac Jones = Matt Ryan Ryan had a noodle coming out. Edited March 11, 2021 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Ryan had a cannon coming out. Lol no he didn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, QB1 said: Lol no he didn’t you are correct ... i was re,member some games from his rookie year ... but you are right .. socuting reports said arms strength was a question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Ryan had a noodle coming out. *edited for accuracy* ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 If anything Jones showed more arm strength at Alabama than Ryan did at BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 If Mac Jones was 2nd on the jets big board, i think it would be highly worth trading down and gambling. Don't think he has the athleticism/upside to go top 10. But then again, that's just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I say Jones is the second best QB in the draft and other than TL, he is the only QB I would take in the first round this year. Wilson and Fields will be on to their second careers after their rookie contract is up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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