Stark Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Drums said: Jolly jolly, the big man said, but me thinks he's better off dead. Vote crusher doing this again huh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Interesting that this wasn't even discussed though. Maybe I'm reading too much into it and everyone just disagreed with that strategy, but once CTM and me had claimed it makes sense for scum to immediately hop on the bandwagon. This gives them their out for any cop investigation, and forces everyone else's hand. At some point the first scumster claimed. But when? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, Drums said: Jolly jolly, the big man said, but me thinks he's better off dead. Vote crusher Fair enough, truth is I'd say Barry. But you do you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I dunno. I could argue that it makes more sense for scum to keep quiet, let a cop find them and reveal himself, then claim Miller “I thought we weren’t all going to reveal right away”. Reality is - at this point I’m not worried about a cop role - there’s got to be some other way/mechanism that’ll enable detection of scum. Over-indexing in assumptions about our cop in a game full of miller’s = pointless. Fair. I’d lean towards their best strategy being to pile on, but a reasonable case could be made for both strategies. Would have liked to talk that out a bit more but cats already out of the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Drums said: For the answer, you must ask yourself first. Then grab some ale and quench your thirst. If you still wonder, grab another off the shelf. And last but not least GFY. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Crusher said: At some point the first scumster claimed. But when? . That’s the question.. was it you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Stark said: doing this again huh? I found the setup to be inspiring but all of this rhyming’s got me perspiring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 ********OFFICIAL VOTECOUNT******** Barry -- Crusher, 80 (2) Greenseed -- Stark (1) Stark -- jvill, Ape (2) Crusher -- Drums (1) With 12 people alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Drums said: I found the setup to be inspiring but all of this rhyming’s got me perspiring. If you don't stop I'm going to kill you and then myself. Does that rhyme? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: I have to still read back a bit since I missed some stuff but the one that stuck out to me was crushers reveal. I’m pretty sure he did it right after you and CTM decided everyone else should probably keep quiet. vote crusher and here's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 ********OFFICIAL VOTECOUNT******** Barry -- Crusher, 80 (2) Greenseed -- Stark (1) Stark -- jvill, Ape (2) Crusher -- Drums, JETS (2) With 12 people alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: That’s the question.. was it you? No, I only saw CTM's post and claimed too. I'm a miller, I like to fight, drink and fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: If you don't stop I'm going to kill you and then myself. Does that rhyme? In my pocket, something you'll find. But it may not do much in helping you rhyme: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: vote crusher and here's why. I actually read CTM's post were he revealed and claimed right there. But cool story just the same. Interesting you pick mine that was around third. Or you picking mine because I already have some momentum,. either way, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Okay, my theories: 1. Traders, could be a game of item exchange rather than definitive roles 2. This is supported by the myriad ways of death (murderers) and influence (drugs) 3. honesty being emphasized here combined with all the millers to me = lie detection - maybe lie detection as an object, 1-timer or maybe a dedicated lie detector I dunno 4. 2 rival crews, but it sounds like constibke works between them - could be multi faction 5. beaver pelts are spoots homage to himself 6. Jackass and pudgy man is an homage to pac and crusher 7. doc may not protect, might actually give coroner reports in death scenes - I forget all the ways that can work Solid observations. Especially, Pac and jackass. That really stood out to me to along with the honesty theme of the game. Probably needs go unsaid but I assume we're all "not town" because we're scumbag human being, which also, goes along with the honesty theme of the game. My overall feeling was; Tiggins is probably some type of conduit between 2 rival teams and I'm once again, every ******* time we do once of these games, the poor schmuck that is has no power stuck in the middle, destined to lose, despite my brilliance. GFY Spoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, The Crusher said: I actually read CTM's post were he revealed and claimed right there. But cool story just the same. Interesting you pick mine that was around third. Or you picking mine because I already have some momentum,. either way, well done. You had one vote, that's not momentum. I could've voted for stark or Barry if I wanted to go with momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 And if there is a recruiting component to this...Kill me now!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEndTheSuffering Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Drums said: In my pocket, something you'll find. But it may not do much in helping you rhyme: Idk how you do it man but I'm going to get to the bottom of it by the end of this game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: You had one vote, that's not momentum. I could've voted for stark or Barry if I wanted to go with momentum. Thought I had two, my bad. Still not scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 16 hours ago, CTM said: hey rodent.. black text isn't visible in dark mode. Also I'm a miller... If a cop investigates me it will be guilty. So don't bother investigating me, but if you are a stubborn stupid mule like last games cop and do so anyway, I suggest you do not reveal yoself as it will not provide any new information. And just so scum can join in the wifom , I may or may not have additional powers Chew on that beeyotchs rule #14 16 hours ago, jvill 51 said: Interesting... I’m also a miller 9 hours ago, The Crusher said: LOL, ok, I’m a Miller too. So don’t bother investigating me but scum feel free to kill me night 1. I’m ready for a fight. 8 hours ago, Jetscode1 said: 8 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: Ok, ok so everyone is a loose-lipped Miller. That means the cop is useless, which should have been apparent from the second and third paragraphs which state that this is a town of unsavory folk, not unlike myself. 7 hours ago, Stark said: 7 hours ago, JiF said: Hi, I'm a Miller too. 6 hours ago, Integrity28 said: I’m also a Miller. CTM is ******* obsessed with me. I’ve got a couple theories about the opening scene - but if I delve into them are folks going to crap themselves and call me scum? 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Indeed, I'm a Miller as well. I thought Spoot was f**king with me. Like "Yeah, you get to be town this game, per your request....but you're a Miller." Interesting game right off the bat! 5 hours ago, JustEndTheSuffering said: Ok since everyone is revealing I'm also a Miller. Thought we were keeping quiet about it to protect the cop though. 5 hours ago, Drums said: Me name’s Miller. Reggie Miller. Ye who says they’re a Miller better not be filler but it is obvious we be in for a thriller! 4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Fair. I am town dee milliner. Everyone’s reveals. What stood out to me: - After me and CTM reveal and the brief discussion about whether if there’s other millers out there they should hold off on claiming, Crusher, JC, Greenseed, Stark, JiF all reveal, pushing it to the point where over half the game has claimed miller. No discussion of mine and CTM’s proposal of holding off. To me that fits with JC’s and JiF’s M.O. and also Crusher’s to a lesser extent. Stark strikes me as more cerebral and be the guy to slow it down and talk it through out of that bunch, but he’s also the last on that list to claim and momentum was clearly pointing towards millers revealing at that point. I don’t know what to take out of Greenseed’s reveal yet, but I agree with Crusher that the phrasing was interesting. - Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. - 80’s reveal feels a bit contrived and over explained. - JETS struck me as genuine in real time - Drums I don’t know what to make of it yet. He pulled this stuff last game as serial killer, but he’s been getting frustrated in recent games with getting attacked for not living up to his meta so I could see him pulling it as town this game just to switch things up. But in the past I feel like town Drums would have definitely been involved in the discussion over whether other millers should have held off on claiming. - Barry was last to claim and it took some pushing from 80. Possible he’s scum caught flat footed by the early miller reveals, but right or wrong i keep thinking scum wouldn’t wait until the very end to reveal after being provided very convenient cover to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, jvill 51 said: Everyone’s reveals. What stood out to me: - After me and CTM reveal and the brief discussion about whether if there’s other millers out there they should hold off on claiming, Crusher, JC, Greenseed, Stark, JiF all reveal, pushing it to the point where over half the game has claimed miller. No discussion of mine and CTM’s proposal of holding off. To me that fits with JC’s and JiF’s M.O. and also Crusher’s to a lesser extent. Stark strikes me as more cerebral and be the guy to slow it down and talk it through out of that bunch, but he’s also the last on that list to claim and momentum was clearly pointing towards millers revealing at that point. I don’t know what to take out of Greenseed’s reveal yet, but I agree with Crusher that the phrasing was interesting. - Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. - 80’s reveal feels a bit contrived and over explained. - JETS struck me as genuine in real time - Drums I don’t know what to make of it yet. He pulled this stuff last game as serial killer, but he’s been getting frustrated in recent games with getting attacked for not living up to his meta so I could see him pulling it as town this game just to switch things up. But in the past I feel like town Drums would have definitely been involved in the discussion over whether other millers should have held off on claiming. - Barry was last to claim and it took some pushing from 80. Possible he’s scum caught flat footed by the early miller reveals, but right or wrong i keep thinking scum wouldn’t wait until the very end to reveal after being provided very convenient cover to do so. Good breakdown. Wasn't barry's timing as much as his initial reaction. Best bet for scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, jvill 51 said: Interesting that this wasn't even discussed though. Maybe I'm reading too much into it and everyone just disagreed with that strategy, but once CTM and me had claimed it makes sense for scum to immediately hop on the bandwagon. This gives them their out for any cop investigation, and forces everyone else's hand. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Everyone’s reveals. What stood out to me: - After me and CTM reveal and the brief discussion about whether if there’s other millers out there they should hold off on claiming, Crusher, JC, Greenseed, Stark, JiF all reveal, pushing it to the point where over half the game has claimed miller. No discussion of mine and CTM’s proposal of holding off. To me that fits with JC’s and JiF’s M.O. and also Crusher’s to a lesser extent. Stark strikes me as more cerebral and be the guy to slow it down and talk it through out of that bunch, but he’s also the last on that list to claim and momentum was clearly pointing towards millers revealing at that point. I don’t know what to take out of Greenseed’s reveal yet, but I agree with Crusher that the phrasing was interesting. - Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. - 80’s reveal feels a bit contrived and over explained. - JETS struck me as genuine in real time - Drums I don’t know what to make of it yet. He pulled this stuff last game as serial killer, but he’s been getting frustrated in recent games with getting attacked for not living up to his meta so I could see him pulling it as town this game just to switch things up. But in the past I feel like town Drums would have definitely been involved in the discussion over whether other millers should have held off on claiming. - Barry was last to claim and it took some pushing from 80. Possible he’s scum caught flat footed by the early miller reveals, but right or wrong i keep thinking scum wouldn’t wait until the very end to reveal after being provided very convenient cover to do so. There's potentially something here, to your point the line list of characters that revealed after us aren't exactly know for being pensive or reasoned with 1 notable exception Crusher: Bacon brain JC: Does what a toy 8 ball tells him to do, lets all hope it continues to tell him no when he asks if he should blow something up Greenseed: Just met him but seems like Hess jr vote Stark agree here, first and only sane person seems like something he'd kick around as town. Jif: promiscuous bisexual stoner (pronouns xim/xer) whose untreated veneral disease has progressed to full blown neurosyphilis Integrity28: drinks his own piss and got off the evolutionary train 1000's of generations ago jf80: fapping idiot etc.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Everyone’s reveals. What stood out to me: - After me and CTM reveal and the brief discussion about whether if there’s other millers out there they should hold off on claiming, Crusher, JC, Greenseed, Stark, JiF all reveal, pushing it to the point where over half the game has claimed miller. No discussion of mine and CTM’s proposal of holding off. To me that fits with JC’s and JiF’s M.O. and also Crusher’s to a lesser extent. Stark strikes me as more cerebral and be the guy to slow it down and talk it through out of that bunch, but he’s also the last on that list to claim and momentum was clearly pointing towards millers revealing at that point. I don’t know what to take out of Greenseed’s reveal yet, but I agree with Crusher that the phrasing was interesting. - Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. - 80’s reveal feels a bit contrived and over explained. - JETS struck me as genuine in real time - Drums I don’t know what to make of it yet. He pulled this stuff last game as serial killer, but he’s been getting frustrated in recent games with getting attacked for not living up to his meta so I could see him pulling it as town this game just to switch things up. But in the past I feel like town Drums would have definitely been involved in the discussion over whether other millers should have held off on claiming. - Barry was last to claim and it took some pushing from 80. Possible he’s scum caught flat footed by the early miller reveals, but right or wrong i keep thinking scum wouldn’t wait until the very end to reveal after being provided very convenient cover to do so. Good stuff Jvill. I think everyone revealing is fine because in the case of a lie detector it might come in handy since Millers can throw off the cop unless we know someone is lying about being a Miller. So maybe they can work together at a later time if both exist. Side note: some people did not say they were Millers but posted photos or other things to hint it. I also agree with Ape about scum fake claiming with an unfavorable result anyway. Super cool game setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. It’s not real concern. It’s a reference to the old ways - I used to stupidly float all sorts of theories on setup, and it would create a cluster eff, giving scum all sorts of ways to muddle things. I didn’t do a good job of separating playing the game from how I would have designed it, so I’d always be talking setup. As for my reveal, I made it after reading and 4 posts of the game. I typically post mid-read regardless of how behind I am, so that I’m giving folks my genuine reactions rather than calculated ones after digesting everything that happened while I was gone. I especially do this early game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JiF said: And if there is a recruiting component to this...Kill me now!!!!!! I’m going to recruit you to hide n my taint. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: Everyone’s reveals. What stood out to me: - After me and CTM reveal and the brief discussion about whether if there’s other millers out there they should hold off on claiming, Crusher, JC, Greenseed, Stark, JiF all reveal, pushing it to the point where over half the game has claimed miller. No discussion of mine and CTM’s proposal of holding off. To me that fits with JC’s and JiF’s M.O. and also Crusher’s to a lesser extent. Stark strikes me as more cerebral and be the guy to slow it down and talk it through out of that bunch, but he’s also the last on that list to claim and momentum was clearly pointing towards millers revealing at that point. I don’t know what to take out of Greenseed’s reveal yet, but I agree with Crusher that the phrasing was interesting. - Ape’s reveal itself doesn’t bother me. The concern about others calling him scum for diving into mechanics stood out to me, but his actual dive into the opening post feels like he’s actively trying to solve the game. - 80’s reveal feels a bit contrived and over explained. - JETS struck me as genuine in real time - Drums I don’t know what to make of it yet. He pulled this stuff last game as serial killer, but he’s been getting frustrated in recent games with getting attacked for not living up to his meta so I could see him pulling it as town this game just to switch things up. But in the past I feel like town Drums would have definitely been involved in the discussion over whether other millers should have held off on claiming. - Barry was last to claim and it took some pushing from 80. Possible he’s scum caught flat footed by the early miller reveals, but right or wrong i keep thinking scum wouldn’t wait until the very end to reveal after being provided very convenient cover to do so. Solid post but he thing that stands out the most to be about it is that this is the second time you're giving yourself town credit for being the second miller claim. The first time it stood out to me, but could have easily just been the way you saw it so I overlooked it. Making it a point to push that narrative again seems to have more purpose to it IMO. vote jvill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: It’s not real concern. It’s a reference to the old ways - I used to stupidly float all sorts of theories on setup, and it would create a cluster eff, giving scum all sorts of ways to muddle things. I didn’t do a good job of separating playing the game from how I would have designed it, so I’d always be talking setup. As for my reveal, I made it after reading and 4 posts of the game. I typically post mid-read regardless of how behind I am, so that I’m giving folks my genuine reactions rather than calculated ones after digesting everything that happened while I was gone. I especially do this early game. this seems a tad over defensive ... almost a ping 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, CTM said: this seems a tad over defensive ... almost a ping Yeah a bit over explaining as he said to me last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Drums said: Good stuff Jvill. I think everyone revealing is fine because in the case of a lie detector it might come in handy since Millers can throw off the cop unless we know someone is lying about being a Miller. So maybe they can work together at a later time if both exist. Side note: some people did not say they were Millers but posted photos or other things to hint it. I also agree with Ape about scum fake claiming with an unfavorable result anyway. Super cool game setup. cop is useless if all townies are millers, maybe spootles got cute though and made scum some kind of reverse miller. If out there a cop 100% should be invetigating and report the first result that isn't scum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Drums said: Yeah a bit over explaining as he said to me last game. 100%, unvote vote ape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, CTM said: this seems a tad over defensive ... almost a ping lol, whatever to me explaining old meta so that new players don’t chase after joke comments is sparing the town a distraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, CTM said: this seems a tad over defensive ... almost a ping Stupid comment. 2 minutes ago, Drums said: Yeah a bit over explaining as he said to me last game. Nudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, CTM said: 100%, unvote vote ape I've never seen you actually play day 1. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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