UnknownJetFan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/10/fifth-year-option-salaries-are-set-for-2018-first-round-picks/ Darnold's 5th year option is 18.858M, so that is over 6M less than the 25M what many expected. Kind of a moot point since the team would likely not pick up that option for the 5th year even at that price. But, if something occurs where they go forward with him it likely would impact any extension parameters in the event he plays in the 4th year well and Jets offer him to stay on. Seems like this is not going to occur at this point, but the Pro Days over this month could change that if no college QB impresses the Jets enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Bye Bye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnknownJetFan Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, ganggreen305 said: Bye Bye I agree at this point. There are enough factors to start over resetting the QB contract clock, getting some additional draft capital from trading Darnold, hopefully getting a QB with higher upside, etc. that Jets need to ultimately between the draft and FA to build enough to start in 2021 around the QB of choice in the draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post long time suffering Jets f Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 I know JD must be holding out for a late first rounder, be at this point take the current best offer on the table and be done with it. We all need to move on from this. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: I know JD must be holding out for a late first rounder, be at this point take the current best offer on the table and be done with it. We all need to move on from this. Couldn't agree more. At this point and time either you want Sam Darnold as your QB or you don't. Decision time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) If you cant get value for him now ... Keep him .. draft wilson ... best case scenario ... Darnold plays reasonably well to excite people ... but Zach is the clear starter ... then trade darnold for more than he is worth right now. Edited March 10, 2021 by Dunnie 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, long time suffering Jets f said: I know JD must be holding out for a late first rounder, be at this point take the current best offer on the table and be done with it. We all need to move on from this. Douglas has moved on from this. Probably weeks ago. He knows who his QB will be. No pro day is going to change his mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Keep him .. draft wilson ... best case scenario ... Darnold plays reasonably well to excite people ... but Zach is the clear starter ... then trade darnold for more than he is worth right now. The last thing this team needs is a QB controversy. Sitting Wilson or another QB behind Sam Darnold accomplishes nothing. If you want to sit Wilson you sit him behind a stop gap QB aging veteran or destined to be a career backup type QB. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The number I kept hearing was 24 million, this sounds cheaper than expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, genot said: Douglas has moved on from this. Probably weeks ago. He knows who his QB will be. No pro day is going to change his mind. Agreed that’s why he hasn’t publicly committed to Darnold, he’s a goner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The last thing this team needs is a QB controversy. Sitting Wilson or another QB behind Sam Darnold accomplishes nothing. If you want to sit Wilson you sit him behind a stop gap QB aging veteran or destined to be a career backup type QB. Hoping Wilson would beat Sam and Sam sits ... but I understand your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted March 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Keep him .. draft wilson ... best case scenario ... Darnold plays reasonably well to excite people ... but Zach is the clear starter ... then trade darnold for more than he is worth right now. Not following the rationale here: This "reasonably well" span of time has to be before Halloween or he's not the Jets' player to trade. Once the deadline passes, all they can do is extend him with a long contract, or franchise tag him after the season's over. If he's playing well, and the Jets are winning games, then no coach or GM is trading him away with the team on its way to the playoffs just because Wilson was drafted at #2 and they like him. If they are winning games due to his good play, and then trade away this starting QB in October, there'll be a player & coach mutiny, and rightfully so. If he excites another team in Sept/Oct then he should excite the Jets even more, in which case Douglas should suck it up on the money end for the now sure-thing Darnold and trade the question mark Wilson for more than he could get for Darnold. The whole thing with Darnold's current value - whatever it is - is he's never been given a "real" chance. If he's given a real chance and his upside is now "meh, he kinda played reasonably well" then his trade value is lower not higher, especially without a contract. Or is it your plan to exercise Darnold's 5th year option, so they can trade him after the season, in which case the Jets have to pay him $19MM even if he did not play reasonably well in 2021? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Moving Sam was always going to be the case. There was almost no scenario in which Sam was sticking around. They did have people convinced for a while - driving up Sam's price - but I think he overplayed this hand now. Like many on this thread have stated - it's time to move him. No one's fooled anymore. Take the best offer on the table and move on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: Moving Sam was always going to be the case. There was almost no scenario in which Sam was sticking around. They did have people convinced for a while - driving up Sam's price - but I think he overplayed this hand now. Like many on this thread have stated - it's time to move him. No one's fooled anymore. Take the best offer on the table and move on. This is best for the NY Jets and Sam Darnold. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Peanuts this isn’t 2008 yo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 That doesn't sound too bad so I'm starting to get worried there will be a 4th and 5th year of sucking with Sam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dunnie said: If you cant get value for him now ... Keep him .. draft wilson ... best case scenario ... Darnold plays reasonably well to excite people ... but Zach is the clear starter ... then trade darnold for more than he is worth right now. Agreed. Also watch some team with big aspirations next year lose their QB for the season early. Then you can perhaps get a better deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, genot said: Douglas has moved on from this. Probably weeks ago. He knows who his QB will be. No pro day is going to change his mind. Eh, it's still a part of scouting this QB class. It's certainly possible the Jets haven't made a final decision on Sam and are still comparing him to Wilson/Fields/whoever from this class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Agreed. Also watch some team with big aspirations next year lose their QB for the season early. Then you can perhaps get a better deal. Why would a team with championship aspirations in 2021 bring in Sam to save their season? They'd be looking for a proven veteran. Sam is a reclamation project. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 bargain...pick it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 At that price, we should pick it up. We can still trade him. But now the other teams knows they’ll get Darnold for $5 million in 2021 and $18 million in 2022. Considering the cap is suppose to increase exponentially next year, that’s not bad at all. I think this makes Darnold more marketable in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Why would a team with championship aspirations in 2021 bring in Sam to save their season? They'd be looking for a proven veteran. Sam is a reclamation project. He is league vet that would be cheaper than a 'proven vet'. Especially if the team actually feels he has something ala Tannehill and his resurgence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: He is league vet that would be cheaper than a 'proven vet'. Especially if the team actually feels he has something ala Tannehill and his resurgence. Right, but to bring him into a situation where he is expected to win right away? I just don't see it. He just feels like a guy who needs to sit for a while and get another shot in a year or two when a starter goes down with an injury. I guess it all comes down to what you think of Sam. I obviously have lost a lot of faith in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welp Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 That's actually not that bad of a gamble for the Jets or another team trading for him if they believe he is a viable starting QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, Dunnie said: If you cant get value for him now ... Keep him .. draft wilson ... best case scenario ... Darnold plays reasonably well to excite people ... but Zach is the clear starter ... then trade darnold for more than he is worth right now. That has promise.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I believe the option doesn't have to be exercised until early May, i.e post draft. If the Jets do keep Sam, I think they exercise the option as $23.5M over 2 years isn't much for a QB at all. If he is traded before or during the draft, the trading team probably picks up that option. Either way, two years of team control for $23.5M is very manageable for any team that believes in Sam Darnold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: That has promise.. or Darnold plays well, Wilson is sitting on our bench...and eventually we have to trade him away for a late 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I believe the option doesn't have to be exercised until early May, i.e post draft. If the Jets do keep Sam, I think they exercise the option as $23.5M over 2 years isn't much for a QB at all. If he is traded before or during the draft, the trading team probably picks up that option. Either way, two years of team control for $23.5M is very manageable for any team that believes in Sam Darnold. The Hawks may dump Wilson so they can pay the box safety 20 million per.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, long time suffering Jets f said: I know JD must be holding out for a late first rounder, be at this point take the current best offer on the table and be done with it. We all need to move on from this. This is so true. JD said in his end-of-season press conference that most of the scouting work has already been done and that the pro days are just for "putting the finishing touches" on evaluations. He must know by now whether he wants to replace Darnold with one of the rookie QBs. Just make the decision already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Savage69 said: The Hawks may dump Wilson so they can pay the box safety 20 million per.. I now believe that Jamal's contract demands are entirely reasonable, and in the best interests of the team. The Seahawks should definitely do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Im sure teams have already made an offer for Sam if it was good enough, Sam would be gone already. I doubt a team offering up a 2 would increase that offer in substantial way, to make it worth while. to Douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/10/fifth-year-option-salaries-are-set-for-2018-first-round-picks/ Darnold's 5th year option is 18.858M, so that is over 6M less than the 25M what many expected. Kind of a moot point since the team would likely not pick up that option for the 5th year even at that price. But, if something occurs where they go forward with him it likely would impact any extension parameters in the event he plays in the 4th year well and Jets offer him to stay on. Seems like this is not going to occur at this point, but the Pro Days over this month could change that if no college QB impresses the Jets enough. Nope. The deadline to exercise the option is in May and if he plays well it will be after the Jets declined the option. At that point, the option price will be completely irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, mrcoops said: I believe the option doesn't have to be exercised until early May, i.e post draft. If the Jets do keep Sam, I think they exercise the option as $23.5M over 2 years isn't much for a QB at all. If he is traded before or during the draft, the trading team probably picks up that option. Either way, two years of team control for $23.5M is very manageable for any team that believes in Sam Darnold. Correct May 3rd. The Collective Bargaining Agreement that the NFL and NFLPA agreed to last season made some changes to how that process works. Any option exercised by the May 3 deadline will be fully guaranteed — they were guaranteed for injury only in past seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanShawn Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/10/fifth-year-option-salaries-are-set-for-2018-first-round-picks/ Darnold's 5th year option is 18.858M, so that is over 6M less than the 25M what many expected. Kind of a moot point since the team would likely not pick up that option for the 5th year even at that price. But, if something occurs where they go forward with him it likely would impact any extension parameters in the event he plays in the 4th year well and Jets offer him to stay on. Seems like this is not going to occur at this point, but the Pro Days over this month could change that if no college QB impresses the Jets enough. thats if darnold can play hes out hes not that QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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