kdels62 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, maury77 said: No 3 come again? Damn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The L drill is the 3-cone. So a flat 7 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 DAMN! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, maury77 said: DAMN! I’ve been seeing 4.46 for Surtain. Either way that’s faster than he plays. Assume he’d be a combine 4.5 but in combination with everything else he brings to the table that’s great. His game film shows the problems playing deep man coverage because he doesn’t play like a 4.4 guy. Wouldn’t hesitate to draft him at 23 tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I’ve been seeing 4.46 for Surtain. Either way that’s faster than he plays. Assume he’d be a combine 4.5 but in combination with everything else he brings to the table that’s great. His game film shows the problems playing deep man coverage because he doesn’t play like a 4.4 guy. Wouldn’t hesitate to draft him at 23 tho. I'd be really happy with him at 23. I don't like the way he plays with his back to the ball, but that can be hidden in a zone system (where I think he would really excel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 Keep an eye on this guy in the second and third round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, maury77 said: Keep an eye on this guy in the second and third round. I was about to post this. He’s been connected to us a few times and he’s packing that kind of athleticism? Could be a 3rd rounder but I need to watch some tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I was about to post this. He’s been connected to us a few times and he’s packing that kind of athleticism? Could be a 3rd rounder but I need to watch some tape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, maury77 said: DAMN! Wonder how his agility drills were. Would agree with the poster above he’s more of a zone fit. Will be interesting to see if he slides to an appropriate spot there or a man team drafts him higher and is disappointed. 1 hour ago, maury77 said: Keep an eye on this guy in the second and third round. Mentioned him a bit back, I think he’s an outstanding fit. 12 minutes ago, Marshmello said: @RobR’s guy. Same trainer as Becton too right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted March 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2021 Anyone notice that an awful lot of guys are running in the 4.2s this year. I wonder why that is? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lith said: Anyone notice that an awful lot of guys are running in the 4.2s this year. I wonder why that is? One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, start the clock."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lith said: Anyone notice that an awful lot of guys are running in the 4.2s this year. I wonder why that is? A whole bunch of OL getting real close to breaking 5.0 40s. So crazy that all these athletes come out the same year there’s no combine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, kdels62 said: A whole bunch of OL getting real close to breaking 5.0 40s. So crazy that all these athletes come out the same year there’s no combine. Anyone who argues that he Combine is a waste of time just needs to review the athletic testing from this year. There is absolutely a need for standardized atheltic testing in a static environmentt. I would guess this year that scouts will have to rely more on gauging speed/quickness/agility/play strength from film review rather than testing, which may not be a bad thing (see Gholston, V, and Hill, S) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Can one of you sleuths look up Saginaw Valley's proday results... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 That’s some late round measurables from two productive players. Also apparently Jim Nagy was drunk and couldn’t type out CJ Marable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustInFudge Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 5 hours ago, maury77 said: DAMN! whoa, that's a monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 hours ago, derp said: Wonder how his agility drills were. Would agree with the poster above he’s more of a zone fit. Will be interesting to see if he slides to an appropriate spot there or a man team drafts him higher and is disappointed. Mentioned him a bit back, I think he’s an outstanding fit. @RobR’s guy. Same trainer as Becton too right? I haven't dug deep enough this year to know if they have the same trainers, I'm going strictly by the tape I watched last year and the few times I focused in on him this year. He's long, moves effortlessly, and knows how to use his hands. Then add in he has a ton of experience in the SEC and is a plug and play guy. It makes me wonder why no one is talking about him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: This is 100% true about forty times, and I'm as mad as everyone else about not having a combine this year but some of the more accurate measures can be done anywhere. Like Vert and BJ. When you see a prospect with a good vert and bj you know they are going to run a good forty. Shuttles are also hand timed so they should be relatively the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, RobR said: I haven't dug deep enough this year to know if they have the same trainers, I'm going strictly by the tape I watched last year and the few times I focused in on him this year. He's long, moves effortlessly, and knows how to use his hands. Then add in he has a ton of experience in the SEC and is a plug and play guy. It makes me wonder why no one is talking about him here. I wouldn’t touch Leatherwood until the second round and I even think 34 is too rich for him. The dude reaches a lot from the waist and he spent the senior bowl getting beaten up by Quincy Roche. He’s definitely not a bad prospect but I don’t love him like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I wouldn’t touch Leatherwood until the second round and I even think 34 is too rich for him. The dude reaches a lot from the waist and he spent the senior bowl getting beaten up by Quincy Roche. He’s definitely not a bad prospect but I don’t love him like that. Unfortunately I didn't watch the SB practices this year and that can play a big part in evaluation. I'm only going off game tape and if he dropped a 34"+ vert that is an insane number for someone that large. Truth is all OLineman bend at the waist and get beat from time to time. That's a coachable trait, elite athletic traits and a lengthy frame are not. I think he's a first rounder all day, every day and we could even kick him inside and he'll be the best guard from this class. We'll find out soon enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Big day today, we got South Carolina, MIssissippi State, Michigan State, Virginia and USC. Jaycee Horn and Elijah Vera Tucker (who should both be targets at 23) will both be testing today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Might as well take CB off the board if we’re not at Jaycee Horn’s Pro Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Might as well take CB off the board if we’re not at Jaycee Horn’s Pro Day. Honestly don't know why the Broncos are there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 very interested to see all of jaycee horns stats. I know a few guys and a trainer who feel he is going to blow it away and is going to end up the best corner in this draft. I saw he had an 11'1 broad so whoa already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said: very interested to see all of jaycee horns stats. I know a few guys and a trainer who feel he is going to blow it away and is going to end up the best corner in this draft. I saw he had an 11'1 broad so whoa already 41 inch vert too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, kdels62 said: 41 inch vert too. ?? becoming maybe my favorite corner in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 He might be a top 15 pick now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Wonder what the agility drills look like (if he did those). If he’s stiff maybe pushes him down a little for man teams but still a fit for more zone. I still think the Jets’ scheme pushes corner down the list but depending on how many picks they have and how strong the fit is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Vera-Tucker probably won’t make it to 23. This is definitely a trade down spot if Vera-Tucker, Jaycee Horn, Jaelan Phillips, or Kwity Paye are gone. He’s the guard we need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmello Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 possible pick in the 3rd round? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, Marshmello said: possible pick in the 3rd round? In the 5th... probably 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 10:57 AM, Jets Voice of Reason said: If we got them both our offense would turn around from being a league-worst passing offense to an elite one on paper. With Sam as QB? lol, uh no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 So with the workouts by Surtain and Horn, it looks very possible that Caleb Farley is going to be there for the Jets in late round 1/early round 2. Are any of you pulling the trigger on Farley? I haven't watched him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, maury77 said: So with the workouts by Surtain and Horn, it looks very possible that Caleb Farley is going to be there for the Jets in late round 1/early round 2. Are any of you pulling the trigger on Farley? I haven't watched him yet. He’s fast and strong. Reminds me of Revis. So yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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