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***OFFICIAL*** FIRE JOE DOUGLAS THREAD


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1 hour ago, Irish Jet said:

Now do defensive players.

The Jets defence in 2019 was 7th overall and was made up entirely of Maccagnan players. 2nd overall against the run!

Please update me on the progress that has been made under Joe Douglas. 

We had a better HC in 2019 and he hired Joe Douglas.  

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On 11/16/2021 at 3:01 PM, jeremy2020 said:

The NFL helps many teams and often recommends the search firms that are used to find gms/coaches/etc or connect teams to people like former GMs to provide advice. Basically, any owner who wants it can get help from the NFL (mostly in connecting to people who then actually try to help them). 

Woody tried this already, and it was disastrous. The league sent Charley Casserly to help, who then recommended Mike Maccagnan. 

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So, pray tell, who is this hot shot GM that is going to be researched and vetted, by the Johnson brothers? 

Who is this whippersnapper that is going to review the history of washed up hires that have been previously disposed of by this organization and say to himself, "Boy, that is an organization that I want to join".

Exactly who is looking from the outside and saying, "I want to be inside that?"

Until you have an answer for those questions, you are just whistling in the dark.

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2 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

Now do defensive players.

The Jets defence in 2019 was 7th overall and was made up entirely of Maccagnan players. 2nd overall against the run!

Please update me on the progress that has been made under Joe Douglas. 

The D sucking right now is on the coaching IMO. There is ALOT more talent on this defense than the 2019 defense. 

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11 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Dumbest thing this franchise can do is fire the GM who just had their best draft in years. This team is losing because the previous GMs were awful. One player one team from the 2013-19 drafts. JD is safe as he should be.

Jets have only a few good players on the entire roster- the jets are losing because they have bad players and a bad coach and they were all brought in by Joe - stop sniffing glue Joe can’t even find a kicker

 

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12 minutes ago, kmnj said:

Jets have only a few good players on the entire roster- the jets are losing because they have bad players and a bad coach and they were all brought in by Joe - stop sniffing glue Joe can’t even find a kicker

 

Joe cleared the roster and  is rebuilding. He’s made great trades and and has added a lot of young talent. Next season I won’t be as understanding, but this year is a developmental year.

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40 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said:

Dumbest thing this franchise can do is fire the GM who just had their best draft in years. This team is losing because the previous GMs were awful. One player one team from the 2013-19 drafts. JD is safe as he should be.

Guess the 20 draft had nothing to do with us being bad 

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1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said:

Joe cleared the roster and  is rebuilding. He’s made great trades and and has added a lot of young talent. Next season I won’t be as understanding, but this year is a developmental year.

2021 is the last year I defend JD for not fielding a better team. No more excuses after this season is over. He will have all of his cap space to spend and multiple premium draft picks. 

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7 hours ago, kmnj said:

His record is awful, his roster is awful, his coach is awful- guy can’t even find a kicker - what about all of the terrible misses he has had by the way ? His first draft was historically bad and his free agents have been terrible 

The only good thing about Joe is he got some really stupid people to buy into this year being his first  year 

 

 

the roster is not awful. now maybe the coaching is bad.

every body mises and the 2020 draft no where near as bad as you say historical... historical would be Idzik bad. Hall is good. and Davis and Becton and even Mims are still around and have a chance. if those guys turn out to be starters then that a better draft since Tanny was here.

but 2021. 

Moore is in the top 5 in all rookie stats and the guys in front of him have 1 and 2 more games played. Carter is 4th is yds and total yds with missing 2 games. AVT and MC2 @Prodigal Syndicate have outside chances for the all rookie team.

 and Zach is improving. every GM misses, we should know that all to well, but there is no way after that 2021 draft you get rid of him.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, doitny said:

the roster is not awful. now maybe the coaching is bad.

every body mises and the 2020 draft no where near as bad as you say historical... historical would be Idzik bad. Hall is good. and Davis and Becton and even Mims are still around and have a chance. if those guys turn out to be starters then that a better draft since Tanny was here.

but 2021. 

Moore is in the top 5 in all rookie stats and the guys in front of him have 1 and 2 more games played. Carter is 4th is yds and total yds with missing 2 games. AVT and MC2 @Prodigal Syndicate have outside chances for the all rookie team.

 and Zach is improving. every GM misses, we should know that all to well, but there is no way after that 2021 draft you get rid of him.

 

 

Becton, Mims, Zuniga, Clark, and Perine can all be fairly dumped into the bust bucket at this point. Davis plays at least, but he is terrible. So take that for whatever. Hall looks like he’s a starter at least. The punter sucks. Crowdsourcing the 2020 draft to Jetnation posters would have been a significant improvement.

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18 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

please expand

We want to hear this

the RBs are good enough...

the OL is good enough.....

the WRs are good enough.... 

our offense is between 20-26 in almost all the important cats .  thats not awful. 

now defense i still dont think there as bad as they played. i still think its scheme. your probably missing 2-3 players that can make the rest of the defense play better. 

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5 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Everyone knows you get a mulligan on the first draft.  

Convince enough people that every year is Year 1 of Glorious Leader's "New and Improved" Great Leap Forward, and the mulligans can continue in perpetuity.

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1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Becton, Mims, Zuniga, Clark, and Perine can all be fairly dumped into the bust bucket at this point. Davis plays at least, but he is terrible. So take that for whatever. Hall looks like he’s a starter at least. The punter sucks. Crowdsourcing the 2020 draft to Jetnation posters would have been a significant improvement.

No. They can't. What part of your anus do you pull this verbal feces from?

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5 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

Dumbest thing this franchise can do is fire the GM who just had their best draft in years. This team is losing because the previous GMs were awful. One player one team from the 2013-19 drafts. JD is safe as he should be.

It's the best time to fire him.  He's likely to revert to the mean rather than duplicate a second draft above the mean.   

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1 minute ago, Biggs said:

Show me the data that proves any GM can draft above the mean.  

That's self-proving unless your position is that GMs are entirely fungible. If that's your case, the defense rests before hearing the conclusion of the prosecution's closing argument.

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