Popular Post EM31 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 If Joe Douglas were ever to get fired I think he would be on the market for about 2 minutes tops. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 3:56 PM, Jetsfan80 said: The Perine pick was dumb because he lacked much of any upside. His ceiling was Bilal Powell, and it's not really wise to use a 4th on a guy like that. But otherwise the process was pretty good in the 2020 class, and process matters a lot. Powell was a 4th rounder... What people forget is there was little input from the '20 CS towards the draft. As has been reported, this CS is heavily involved with the scouts leading up to the draft in what traits they want from players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, C Mart said: Powell was a 4th rounder... What people forget is there was little input from the '20 CS towards the draft. As has been reported, this CS is heavily involved with the scouts leading up to the draft in what traits they want from players. Right. But I'm saying Perine's CEILING was Powell. Obviously he fell far short of that. If you're gonna use a midround pick on a RB, you want to grab one with a higher ceiling than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 17 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The reason smart GMs like Douglas try to accumulate picks is because even the best GMs draft plenty of busts. Just a guess. The Jets are close to the point where they do not have to sign many UFAs, they then can let some UFAs leave, thus start being awarded compensatory picks. Close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, EM31 said: If Joe Douglas were ever to get fired I think he would be on the market for about 2 minutes tops. If he has a 5 year tenure that is the same trajectory he is on now, I would suggest that the Jets elevate him to a position of EVP of Player Personnel, just as his mentor (Ozzie) was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Warming this thread up for the end of season collapse with Zach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 minute ago, JTJet said: Warming this thread up for the end of season collapse with Zach. JD is a good GM. He better not get canned for messing up his first draft that wasn't messed up by COVID. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: Warming this thread up for the end of season collapse with Zach. Whatever she did to you bro, this won’t change anything 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Whatever she did to you bro, this won’t change anything LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hex said: JD is a good GM. He better not get canned for messing up his first draft that wasn't messed up by COVID. I like Douglas and think he should get another crack at drafting a qb. But wholly Jesus Zach Wilson might be the worst draft pick in jets history and we have a lot to choose from. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 **** him. 1 good draft shouldnt absolve him at this point. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Yea folks….. We aren’t good. Still… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 It's time for Joe to go... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/18/2022 at 4:10 PM, JTJet said: **** him. 1 good draft shouldnt absolve him at this point. One good draft where he hit on four players. Basically all in the first 35 picks, two in the top ten. It would almost be difficult to come away from that without talent. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 These threads should be pinned to the top until these clowns are gone. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Yes the first half of the season was fun, but its become apparent it was a mirage and the luck of facing a bunch of teams starting back ups and in disarray. No more draft surplus. No huge amount of cap space. No answers at QB. An O line that needs to be rebuilt. Linebacker core has been basically ignored and is in bad shape and gets exposed. Oh and because Douglas restructured we are stuck with Mosely again next season, another year older and slower. Douglas is going to have the best off season of his life and make the playoffs next season. Anything else and he is rightfully gone. 4 seasons with losing records, 4 seasons with no playoffs. Jags on the cusp of winning their division, giants make the playoffs. This whole "we need 4-6 seasons to rebuild" has always been nonsense. Good regimes do it in half that time all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Bump One of the most epic JN threads ever cheers @freestater ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Bump One of the most epic JN threads ever cheers @freestater ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 10/10/2021 at 12:45 PM, JTJet said: This is where I'm at. We keep getting preached to about "patience" as literally the only defense of JDs tenure. 37 games he has been the GM. Buck stops with him. Their argument boils down to "it was Gase, JD needs time", but if JD wasnt at fault during a 7-9 season in 2019, and progressively has gained more influence each season, then what do we have? 2019 JD 25% Influence 7-9 2020 JD 50% Influence 2-14 2021 JD 100% Influence 1-4... and looking VERY bad. They can claim he gets a fresh start with Saleh all they want but we are literally going backwards under his watch by every objectionable measure. I want to re-highlight this thought process for those on the fence. Think about the progression of JDs stamp on this franchise. Hired: June 7th 2019... 2019 JD 25% Influence / Gase 75% 7-9 2020 JD 50% Influence / Gase 50% 2-14 2021 JD 50% Influence / Saleh 50% 4-13 2022 JD 50% Influence / Saleh 50% 7-9 We are on the cusp of year 4 of his tenure, and we are quite literally... right back where we started. The problem with this, is that we arguably have a better roster overall, but the coaching staff is no different than before. This is a damning indictment of Saleh and his staff, but then also a damning indictment of Douglas for hiring him to begin with. It. Needs. To. Be. Blown. Up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, JTJet said: I want to re-highlight this thought process for those on the fence. Think about the progression of JDs stamp on this franchise. Hired: June 7th 2019... 2019 JD 25% Influence / Gase 75% 7-9 2020 JD 50% Influence / Gase 50% 2-14 2021 JD 50% Influence / Saleh 50% 4-13 2022 JD 50% Influence / Saleh 50% 7-9 We are on the cusp of year 4 of his tenure, and we are quite literally... right back where we started. The problem with this, is that we arguably have a better roster overall, but the coaching staff is no different than before. This is a damning indictment of Saleh and his staff, but then also a damning indictment of Douglas for hiring him to begin with. It. Needs. To. Be. Blown. Up. fine lets blow it up so answer this , who will come to the Jets? and give some reasonable names(no , Payton will never come to work for Woody when he has so many other options) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, fusionCA said: fine lets blow it up so answer this , who will come to the Jets? and give some reasonable names(no , Payton will never come to work for Woody when he has so many other options) Money talks. Just because you think Payton wont come here, doesnt mean he wont. He has stated in the past he would coach the Jets. The team has some pieces to build around.amd a young roster, and in decent cap shape, and not depleted of picks. Frank Reich is a very reasonable answer too. The Colts scapegoated him for damn sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 9/11/2022 at 1:44 PM, Prodigal Syndicate said: Big Macc was the jets GM for 52 months Final record 24-40 (.375) John Idzik was the jets GM for 23 months Final record was 12-20 (.375) Joe Douglas has been the Jets GM for 39 months Current Record is 13-37 (.260) Douglas now sitting at 20-45. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. S Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Joe stays. He only screwed up one pick, the QB. Never a guarantee, however we also thought Geno Smith was awful, and look at him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 7:20 PM, Dr. S said: Joe stays. He only screwed up one pick, the QB. Never a guarantee, however we also thought Geno Smith was awful, and look at him now. He screwed up a lot more than 1 pick 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Season over. 20-46. Been GM for more games than Macc with a worse record. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Season over. 20-46. Been GM for more games than Macc with a worse record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Yeah this is not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Last Place Joe. He’s coming up on year 5 (!). How’s that rebuild going?? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Last Place Joe. He’s coming up on year 5 (!). How’s that rebuild going?? 10 more years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2023 Playoffs or bust next year, Joe. Figure it the f**k out. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 This team has beaten me to sh!t so much over the last 12 years that I'm not even getting that upset anymore. Douglas is going into his 4th season, we have no clue who the QB will be next year, the team doesn't have a ton of cap space and they are picking 13th without multiple first rounders this time. Other than the young players on the team drastically improving next year (and that's certainly a possibility), I'm just not very optimistic that the Douglas/Saleh tandem are going to produce a significantly better product next year. I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He screwed up a lot more than 1 pick He’s also made a sh*t ton of awful free agent signings outside of DJ Reed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, maury77 said: This team has beaten me to sh!t so much over the last 12 years that I'm not even getting that upset anymore. Douglas is going into his 4th season, we have no clue who the QB will be next year, the team doesn't have a ton of cap space and they are picking 13th without multiple first rounders this time. Other than the young players on the team drastically improving next year (and that's certainly a possibility), I'm just not very optimistic that the Douglas/Saleh tandem are going to produce a significantly better product next year. I hope I'm wrong. Talent wise we have: A top 3 CB A top 5 CB trio A stud OL who might be top 5 at any position on the OL A top 15 WR A top 5 IDL A deep stable of DEs A top 5 RB None of the guys above should decline in production, the WR, RB, DEs and CBs are actually supposed to get better. Realistically we lost 5 of our top 6 players at the tackle position for some portion of the season and the healthy one played with a torn rotator cuff all season. That’s my pro JD perspective. On the otherhand, I don’t have much positivity for Saleh or LaFleur. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Thank you, Joe Douglas. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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