freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, CSNY said: The team was be rift of talent before he got here Had to tear the whole thing down and start from ground up. The 7-9 record was against a schedule full of tomato cans masquerading as NFL teams. When they played a schedule with actual good teams with some continuity during this aberration of a season due to the extenuating circumstances the record was not going to be great. Didn’t think it was 2-14 bad ( more like 4-12 5-11 ) but was foreseeable. One draft and we want to railroad him out of town. Let’s give him a chance Did you see the o-line he put together last year? After promising Sammy's parents he'd take care of their Sammy-boy? I'd love to blindly trust the guy but so far the returns on that trust have been less-than-stellar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Much better than "take flight!" ...or at least more accurate. Props to @SAR I 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbyblue Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 With so many holes we sign 2.5 players? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CSNY Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, freestater said: Did you see the o-line he put together last year? After promising Sammy's parents he'd take care of their Sammy-boy? I'd love to blindly trust the guy but so far the returns on that trust have been less-than-stellar. Yes and as season wore on it started to get better. Still not a average line but definitely got better and was better than line the previous year. And I expect it to be better this year as well along with rest of team. If team doesn’t get better and is not competitive like last years team then will start having doubts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 lol hoo boy I would NOT wanna be Robert Saleh right now!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, CSNY said: Yes and as season wore on it started to get better. Still not a average line but definitely got better and was better than line the previous year. You mean the one with Ryan Kalil on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbyblue Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 At least a lineman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, CSNY said: Yes and as season wore on it started to get better. Still not a average line but definitely got better and was better than line the previous year. Stop...it was a bottom five OL in the league. The line he put together last year was a disaster - there really is no sugar coating it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: lol hoo boy I would NOT wanna be Robert Saleh right now!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, SAR I said: Did I miss something or did Sleepy Joe let an entire day go by without signing anyone? SAR I He is garbage, i never bought into the sheep hype. He will never finish contract. I will be 1st to eat crow if wrong, but i am not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQMartin Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Shelbyblue said: With so many holes we sign 2.5 players? Does it not make stick with Sam and trade down more obvious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 All gas, no players is some funny stuff. I won't lie to you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, GQMartin said: Does it not make stick with Sam and trade down more obvious? To evaluate Sam in a make or break year for him with the same sh*tty roster he had last year? Wouldn't you want to give him a chance by signing a few decent players? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think the free agency strategy tells us what we should already know, which is that he plans to build through the draft. The reason this is significant is because if he had intentions going for Watson I'd imagine he'd move more quickly on filling areas of need that he would have filled in draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Be_a_Jet said: I think the free agency strategy tells us what we should already know, which is that he plans to build through the draft. The reason this is significant is because if he had intentions going for Watson I'd imagine he'd move more quickly on filling areas of need that he would have filled in draft. His draft last yr sucked, solid tackle at 11, rest was average to very poor... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: I think the free agency strategy tells us what we should already know, which is that he plans to build through the draft. The reason this is significant is because if he had intentions going for Watson I'd imagine he'd move more quickly on filling areas of need that he would have filled in draft. Until the Darnold decision is made, we wont know what we have. If he hedges and brings him back in an effort to prolong the Johnson's paying him then we know he's not the guy...or that the swamp(The Johnsons) will never actually be drained/change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: he plans to build through the draft If he could actually draft well, that might work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GQMartin Posted March 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: To evaluate Sam in a make or break year for him with the same sh*tty roster he had last year? Wouldn't you want to give him a chance by signing a few decent players? JD’s idea of giving Sam good players was signing Breshad Perriman. For JD, signing Corey Davis is like signing Jerry Rice in his prime. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Shelbyblue said: With so many holes we sign 2.5 players? I think JD might’ve overdone it. He loves to hog cap space just like Izzadick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Stop...it was a bottom five OL in the league. The line he put together last year was a disaster - there really is no sugar coating it. Not saying it was a great line but was trending upwards as season went on. Let’s see what happens this year with better coaching and with an influx of talent by middle of season I believe that OLine will be respectable and not the jail break it was at times last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Be_a_Jet said: I think the free agency strategy tells us what we should already know, which is that he plans to build through the draft. The reason this is significant is because if he had intentions going for Watson I'd imagine he'd move more quickly on filling areas of need that he would have filled in draft. People keep saying this but I'm not really sure what it means. Everyone wants to build through the draft, but if you don't have good players to pay on your team, have massive holes on your roster and lead the league in cap space...are you supposed to simply sit on it and give it to Woody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, freestater said: This guy had more than any Jets coach in the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 that's not exactly fair. if you want to blame gase for most if not all of the teams ills then you also have to think saleh will do a much better job of getting the most out of the talent he has. that's what coaches are supposed to do. much as the jets are maligned for their talent level, their record speaks to the inability to play as a team more than it does to a paucity in talent. to this end they really need maybe 4 or 5 impactful players and i suspect there are at least two or three beyond qwill that can improve their games. i think we'll be seeing a much different jets team on the field than we have in the past few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oatmeal Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Go and wake up that fat a** GM and tell his worthless a** get some work done 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, rangerous said: that's not exactly fair. if you want to blame gase for most if not all of the teams ills then you also have to think saleh will do a much better job of getting the most out of the talent he has. that's what coaches are supposed to do. much as the jets are maligned for their talent level, their record speaks to the inability to play as a team more than it does to a paucity in talent. to this end they really need maybe 4 or 5 impactful players and i suspect there are at least two or three beyond qwill that can improve their games. i think we'll be seeing a much different jets team on the field than we have in the past few seasons. Really?! JD gave us Kalil, VanRoten, Perriman, Desir....I'm failing to see any position he improved beyond LT (for like 8 games...) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, GreekJet said: mostly because the Jets never play on March 17th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreekJet Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Go and wake up that fat a** GM and tell his worthless a** get some work done 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Go and wake up that fat a** GM and tell his worthless a** get some work done Lol, you are tripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 the whole point that seems to be missed is that teams are still evaluating what the new salary cap number means and there will be more cuts coming in the next few days. also it doesn't seem like there are many free agents being signed by other teams today either . they're all sitting back and waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: You mean he slept through it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, CSNY said: Not saying it was a great line but was trending upwards as season went on. Let’s see what happens this year with better coaching and with an influx of talent by middle of season I believe that OLine will be respectable and not the jail break it was at times last year right. add a good guard to replace lewis and get them playing together in training camp and in season and without injuries and they'll look a whole lot better. they'll also look better if darnold or whoever the qb is can get rid of the ball faster and that means getting receivers who can those quick slants before the pass rush gets to the qb. it has always been the need for a team effort across all positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bronx said: @Maxmancan you curtail these fat jokes? I’m an obese man with sleep apnea as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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