HawkeyeJet Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 He was really good for the Rams. People are sleeping on him. I wonder if Davis gets a look at Nickel CB. whenever a team switches defenses, the focus is on the front 7 and how those pieces fit. This will be a big change for some of our DBs. Press cover 3 is a lot different skill set than the more off coverage system Williams ran. Saleh likes to move his DBs all over the "traditional" formation. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if there are multiple looks with Maye, Joyner and Davis all on the field. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Shows how much faith Douglas has in his third round pick. Not like we have glaring needs elsewhere. Maybe he intends to tag and trade Maye. Mo picks! “ building through draft!” Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They let their entire offensive line walk and used that free cash to sign kenyan drake to back up Josh jacobs. The holy Mike Mayock. At one time he was the grail of draft gurus. So much that he got promoted to GM of a Cadillac NFL franchise with a legend HC. Too bad he got used to sniffing the stank of his own briefs. What a fall from grace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Good move, we needed another safety option. Now on to cornerback! CB might be less of a concern to JD since coverage is a function of pressure... Jets DL WILL GET TO THE QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Man they weren’t kidding when they said Joe values year to year flexibility. lot of folks playing for contracts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoubleDown Posted March 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2021 The Jets are quietly having a great offseason. Joe Douglas gets it. Alot of people are going to complain, but he's doing it the way it needs to be done. The Jets need 10 players at $5m/year much more than they need 3 players at $15/year. This roster needs help from top to bottom. If they can hit on bringing in some legitimate NFL talent at reasonable prices and have a strong draft, this is a completely different team in 2021 and beyond. You have to start out with being competitive before you can take the next step and move on to being a contender. Not all of the signings are going to work out, but I like the value that the Joyners and Coles of the world bring to this team. 10 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vader Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Paradis said: Man they weren’t kidding when they said Joe values year to year flexibility. lot of folks playing for contracts He’s really trying to stock the cupboards and get stop gap prove its in the meantime. It’s a great strategy but means he’ll be the GM of a sh*tty team until the farm graduates up the depth chart. It’s almost like he’s playing this strategy out for peak success in his second contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 I remember when we had Maye and Adam, it was tough to get a 3rd S to even consider signing with us. When one of them missed times we had Miles (#45) getting toasted or a CB playing FS out on the field tackling like Cromartie in the run game. As for Joyner, I think he was good however he was graded out as elite and that had more to do with the Rams defense. Now with the Raiders I still feel he's good or at worse above average but he was definitely Institutionalise and was a product of his environment which was a scrub. Raiders D sucked. Absolutely no pressure after trading Mack and they made the mistake in thinking he was going to be the playmaker to change things around so they gave him 4 years - $42 mil. Glad things didn't work out and welcome to the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vader said: He’s really trying to stock the cupboards and get stop gap prove its in the meantime. It’s a great strategy but means he’ll be the GM of a sh*tty team until the farm graduates up the depth chart. It’s almost like he’s playing this strategy out for peak success in his second contract... that would be a win for everybody if it worked out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Vader said: CB might be less of a concern to JD since coverage is a function of pressure... Jets DL WILL GET TO THE QB. Well pressure certainly helps CBs a great deal but we are very thin right now. I am sure we will be drafting at least one if not more CBs but still we could use a vet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vader Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well pressure certainly helps CBs a great deal but we are very thin right now. I am sure we will be drafting at least one if not more CBs but still we could use a vet. Last time we had a 43, we made it to the AFCCG and were rolling out Abraham, Bryan Thomas and David Barrett at CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Vader said: The holy Mike Mayock. At one time he was the grail of draft gurus. So much that he got promoted to GM of a Cadillac NFL franchise with a legend HC. Too bad he got used to sniffing the stank of his own briefs. What a fall from grace. The faster he gets back to the NFL network on draft day the better for everyone. God I miss him on my TV. The Raiders moves are ridiculous. And it feels like Mayock is following the orders of a crazy man in John Gruden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, David Harris said: The faster he gets back to the NFL network on draft day the better for everyone. God I miss him on my TV. The Raiders moves are ridiculous. And it feels like Mayock is following the orders of a crazy man in John Gruden. Hehe its like he left his brain in the studio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nycdan Posted March 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Ok so he was good at FS but sucked at Slot CB so the Raiders left him at Slot CB and let him walk. Are they stupid? 38 minutes ago, Vader said: The holy Mike Mayock. At one time he was the grail of draft gurus. So much that he got promoted to GM of a Cadillac NFL franchise with a legend HC. Too bad he got used to sniffing the stank of his own briefs. What a fall from grace. 51 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They let their entire offensive line walk and used that free cash to sign kenyan drake to back up Josh jacobs. You guys are determined to summon @Raideraholic without even drawing the pentagram first? Bloody idiots! 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: He was really good for the Rams. People are sleeping on him. I wonder if Davis gets a look at Nickel CB. whenever a team switches defenses, the focus is on the front 7 and how those pieces fit. This will be a big change for some of our DBs. Press cover 3 is a lot different skill set than the more off coverage system Williams ran. Saleh likes to move his DBs all over the "traditional" formation. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if there are multiple looks with Maye, Joyner and Davis all on the field. My understanding is that Saleh and Ulrich are switching to a cover-2/ cover 4 coverage with a 4-3 wide 9 stack. Essentially, Saleh’s Will LB would rotate with a 3rd safety maintaining the traditional 4-3 look but with big nickel personnel. Davis excelled as an SS/Nickel backer last year and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him take that “big nickel” safety role with Joyner and Maye as the 2 high split safeties. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Another sub par cheap guy for a year....does JD actually wana win 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: I’ve said this in the Draft Forum... the Jets are drafting a LB earlier than people think, maybe even at 34. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Joe fan boys hyping up scrub after scrub - even joe knows they are scrubs which is why they are getting one year deals - if they were such great players joe would give them longer deals while the price is cheap - this is like last year he signed a bunch of scrub free agents and is doing it again this year and folks are buying it again lol is he tanking again on purpose? joe probably has a clause in his contract that pats him for saving money for woody - no reason to sign these scrubs over proven players once again if joe loved these scrubs they would b long term deals taking advantage of their low salaries these hyped up players are so great the best most of them could do is short deals with the second worst team in football - all of the elite teams that know talent passed over these scrubs 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodDamnSnack Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I’ve said this in the Draft Forum... the Jets are drafting a LB earlier than people think, maybe even at 34. Nick Bolton seems like a Saleh type player. Not sure about the scheme fit though. Is there any LB you feel strongly about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodDamnSnack Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, kmnj said: Joe fan boys hyping up scrub after scrub - even joe knows they are scrubs which is why they are getting one year deals - if they were such great players joe would give them longer deals while the price is cheap - this is like last year he signed a bunch of scrub free agents and is doing it again this year and folks are buying it again lol is he tanking again on purpose? joe probably has a clause in his contract that pats him for saving money for woody - no reason to sign these scrubs over proven players once again if joe loved these scrubs they would b long term deals taking advantage of their low salaries these hyped up players are so great the best most of them could do is short deals with the second worst team in football - all of the elite teams that know talent passed over these scrubs Its going to be good for resetting the culture to have a bunch of players who need to perform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, GodDamnSnack said: Nick Bolton seems like a Saleh type player. Not sure about the scheme fit though. Is there any LB you feel strongly about? Zaven Collins if I had a choice at #34 assuming the Jets did the right things with the #2 and #23 picks (like going Offense twice). But 34 is also a good spot for a CB this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I’ve said this in the Draft Forum... the Jets are drafting a LB earlier than people think, maybe even at 34. Zaven Collins at 23 or 34 FTW. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, kmnj said: Joe fan boys hyping up scrub after scrub - even joe knows they are scrubs which is why they are getting one year deals - if they were such great players joe would give them longer deals while the price is cheap - this is like last year he signed a bunch of scrub free agents and is doing it again this year and folks are buying it again lol is he tanking again on purpose? joe probably has a clause in his contract that pats him for saving money for woody - no reason to sign these scrubs over proven players once again if joe loved these scrubs they would b long term deals taking advantage of their low salaries these hyped up players are so great the best most of them could do is short deals with the second worst team in football - all of the elite teams that know talent passed over these scrubs I do not believe you understand how the FA system works effectively...the draft picks replace FA 1 year guy and hopefully we get young starter or FA worth paying long term... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: I do not believe you understand how the FA system works effectively...the draft picks replace FA 1 year guy and hopefully we get young starter or FA worth paying long term... I think he understands all right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Joyner is an interesting signing. His best position by far is FS, which is also Marcus Maye's best position and Ashtyn Davis's best position. I know that Saleh will likely play a fair amount of big nickel with 3 Safeties (not that you can really call Joyner "big"), but his signing does also give the Jets options should Maye refuse to sign his tender (unlikely) or if the Jets elect to trade him (slightly less unlikely) or rescind the tag completely (least likely). Having a capable FS alternative (Joyner was the Rams franchise player at the position a few years ago) does at least give team Maye something to think about. He hasn't signed the tag yet, but this increases the pressure on him to do that and guarantee his $10.5M for this year. If the Jets were to pull the tag later in FA, he would struggle to find a deal for $10.5M on the open market. I'd expect Maye to sign the tag shortly, and for the Jets to play a lot of 3 Safety looks this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JXN_JET Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Zaven Collins if I had a choice at #34 assuming the Jets did the right things with the #2 and #23 picks (like going Offense twice). But 34 is also a good spot for a CB this year. I think the cats out of the bag at this point. Probably going to have to get him at 23 if we want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just swapping out worthless 1 year contracts!!! That how you build BABY!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Shows how much faith Douglas has in his third round pick. Not like we have glaring needs elsewhere. Teams are going 3 safety more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 hours ago, jetstream23 said: I’ve said this in the Draft Forum... the Jets are drafting a LB earlier than people think, maybe even at 34. Please get someone who can play G with one of those early picks. Easier said than done 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Vader said: Last time we had a 43, we made it to the AFCCG and were rolling out Abraham, Bryan Thomas and David Barrett at CB. We actually lost in the divisional round -- and I'd argue the passing game in the NFL has evolved a lot since 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 hours ago, kmnj said: Joe fan boys hyping up scrub after scrub - even joe knows they are scrubs which is why they are getting one year deals - if they were such great players joe would give them longer deals while the price is cheap - this is like last year he signed a bunch of scrub free agents and is doing it again this year and folks are buying it again lol is he tanking again on purpose? joe probably has a clause in his contract that pats him for saving money for woody - no reason to sign these scrubs over proven players once again if joe loved these scrubs they would b long term deals taking advantage of their low salaries these hyped up players are so great the best most of them could do is short deals with the second worst team in football - all of the elite teams that know talent passed over these scrubs I really dont understand this take whatsoever. Aside from Thuney what did you want JD to do? The reality is that there were no guards available that are any good outside of Thuney. The only place where McGovern is looked at as a below average player is on this website. Did he struggle the first half of the year with no offseason - yea, but he had a good second half and is a fantastic fit for this scheme. Same goes for Fant - they will excel on the outside zone plays due to their athleticism. We needed a WR and he signed one of the best ones on the market. You want Davis and Golloday? Then we needed a pass rushing DE for a 4-3 and he signed one who is 25 years old, is an ascending player and perfect fits the defense. The other signings arent elite players but his job is to build a TEAM. Do I think we need a RB, I do. Would I like to see kyle fuller here, yet. But we have a scheme and maybe these guys dont fit it. We spent years paying high priced guys like Trumaine, Leveon, etc which was a failure and now people are whining that we didnt do it again. Dont really get it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: @Irish Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 hours ago, David Harris said: Not an indictment on Ashtyn Davis at all. Stop thinking like that. It’s a one year deal. This is Insurance and depth plus Salah’s defense plays a lot of 3 safety. Now each are Interchangeable. Think about if you have those three on the field at the same time – who is going to pick up the slot, are they going to play three deep, convert to cover 2 with one shifting to SS. Plus injuries happen. It won’t be like last year where one WR goes down and we’re absolutely fkd. Depth. one year deals will keep happening until the young guy draft picks cycle up through the system and take over and then keep the assembly line churning with picks backing up older picks, a couple savvy FA moves to fill some holes here and there. Sign the good young guys long term while the draft machine keeps churning and churning as some guys leave as FA’s and are replaced by the groomed pups, pick up a couple comp picks then. THE MACHINE IS BEING BUILT. Zach Wilson WILL be drafted and this thing will be humming in a couple seasons. Weren’t we supposed to see 3 safeties on the field last year? I remember people touting the McDougle, Maye, Davis trio as a matchup advantage. Davis looked like a lost rookie, his slot corner ability was pretty bad. Joyner is a nice FS, but nothing more and Maye will be relegated to SS. I’m not sure I see this trio being on the field at the same time a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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