Zach Wilson arm strength

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

off body angle no rotation 40 yard flick of the football. 

Triple lutz 

[BroadwayRay]

6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

i saw his games against Coastal and UCF in one he was overmatched by nobodies and in the other he was beating the pants off of nobodies 

He wasn't overmatched at all. In fact, his Coastal tapes produced some of his most remarkable throws of the season. The drive he directed at the end of the game fell one yard short of a miracle comeback. Peter King wrote a column a few weeks ago talking about how the Jaguars OC -- Brian Schottenheimer -- called the BYU OC to talk about Wilson specifically because of what Wilson showed in the final drive of the Coastal game.

[johnnysd]

5 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

Wilson has one of the best arms (not just strength) combined with accuracy and off platform I’ve seen in a long time.

There’s a reason Jax is sending their playbooks to him. They are doing a legit deep dive, as they should. Will they take him over Lawrence? No.

But in most draft, Wilson would be the top QB taken. We should be running to the phone after his pro day to trade Sam.

To be honest we should already be in offense install mode with Zach. I actually think there is a very real possibility of JAX taking him. 

[johnnysd]

4 hours ago, Morrissey said:

what's nuts is the 49ers not taking Aaron Rodgers 1st like man at the time thought.

Rodgers then was not the Rodgers of now. He had some issues. Obviously he worked them out

[bitonti]

4 minutes ago, David Harris said:

Consistent and accurate. Consistently accurate - good enough for me.

what was special about Aaron Rodgers coming out that Zach Wilson doesn’t have coming out? Not saying he’ll be Aaron Rodgers but you’re requirement of running a fast forty or some other measurable is irrelevant for a QB.

Aaron Rodgers had system questions - to that point no Cal QB had been good. 

consistent accuracy in NCAA isn't the same as NFL accuracy 

Sam Darnold and Mark Sanchez were both "accuracy" guys coming out - read the scouting reports - they and Rodgers at least did it in the Pac 12 

Wilson best games are against mountain west /independent schedule

He's got a top 5 CFB offensive line, 24 and 25 year olds blocking for him and a draftable WR on the team and half of American Samoa on defense, it's not like he's playing on Wyoming. but BYU plays no one beats no one real and that's the issue that can't really be explained away before the draft 

 this guy really needs another year of college to season but they are striking while the iron is hot i.e. before he gets hurt again 

 

 

[bitonti]

3 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

He wasn't overmatched at all. In fact, his Coastal tapes produced some of his most remarkable throws of the season. The drive he directed at the end of the game fell one yard short of a miracle comeback. Peter King wrote a column a few weeks ago talking about how the Jaguars OC -- Brian Schottenheimer -- called the BYU OC to talk about Wilson specifically because of what Wilson showed in the final drive of the Coastal game.

Ok even if all this is true, for the sake of argument 

quick name one player on Coastal Carolina or who ever went to Coastal Carolina without looking it up 

he's playing vs noones 

[johnnysd]

2 hours ago, Philc1 said:

You don’t think that’s a red flag?

No. He is not the only person on his team. Plus i saw a star where they had incredibly low talent on the team. I mean seriously do you expect BYU to be an Alabama?

[BroadwayRay]

2 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

To be honest we should already be in offense install mode with Zach. I actually think there is a very real possibility of JAX taking him. 

Two years ago, but still ...

Former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer calls Trevor Lawrence "the best quarterback ever"

Teddy Rydquist | 2 years ago

 

 

 

 

FOX Sports analyst Urban Meyer had some high praise for Clemson quarterback and Heisman Trophy favorite, Trevor Lawrence.

Discussing the possibility of another Alabama-Clemson matchup in the College Football Playoff, Meyer broke down why it all hinges on the sophomore.

 

 

“It’s very hard to repeat. Once you win it, everything changes.

“I think Dabo Swinney, as long as he can keep that team together…the quarterback is the best quarterback in college football, ever. But what about the rest of the team? Are they going to stay focused and keep swinging like they did last year?”

A few of Meyer’s own pupils – Tim Tebow, J.T. Barrett, Dwayne Haskins – rank among the game’s most prolific quarterbacks.

For his part, Lawrence was about as impressive as possible in his debut season. Starting the final 11 games of the season, he helped guide Clemson to a 15-0 record and the program’s third national championship. He completed 65.1% (259-398) of his passes for 3,280 yards, 30 TD and just four interceptions.

Announcing his retirement as Ohio State’s head coach following last season’s Rose Bowl victory over the Washington Huskies, Meyer is now serving as an assistant athletic director at the school, in addition to his duties with FOX Sports.

Stepping up into the full-time head coaching role following his 3-0 debut as the interim in 2018, former offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Ryan Day named sophomore Justin Fields the starter for Buckeyes.

Playing in 12 games for the Georgia Bulldogs last season, Fields transferred to Ohio State in January and was granted immediate eligibility by the NCAA. The No. 5 Buckeyes will face FAU at Ohio Stadium on Saturday at 12:00PM ET to begin their season.

[johnnysd]

45 minutes ago, adobolo2 said:

Just a tought but does it worry the people who want Wilson as our new qb that there is a good percentage of people on this board who want to stick with Darnold, even after 3 year of complete garbage with the odd flash of brilliance we would rather him as our Qb over wilson.

The 32nd qb in the nfl over wilson......either the Darnold people are mad or the wilson people are getting carried away with anyone over Darnold.

No. There is consensus on Wilson. He could still flop. But in terms of traits and potential he is a #1 pick in almost every NFL draft.

[johnnysd]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Zack Wilson couldn’t produce a 4.41/40 if you stapled him to the Concorde

He can run a 4.5. He is far from slow. And he has excellent short yardage burst which is more important for an actual QB anyway

[BroadwayRay]

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Ok even if all this is true, for the sake of argument 

quick name one player on Coastal Carolina or who ever went to Coastal Carolina without looking it up 

he's playing vs noones 

Are you serious? Coastal Carolina was ranked 12th in the playoff rankings at the end of the season, and 14th in the nation by AP. 

We've already squashed your injury argument, and the "Zach Wilson isn't special" garbage. What else ya got?

[RutgersJetFan]

48 minutes ago, adobolo2 said:

Just a tought but does it worry the people who want Wilson as our new qb that there is a good percentage of people on this board who want to stick with Darnold, even after 3 year of complete garbage with the odd flash of brilliance we would rather him as our Qb over wilson.

For anyone that's been on Jets boards long enough this is absolutely not a concern. Hanging on to sh*tty QB's in internet arguments is the one thing this fanbase does better than anyone in the world. 

[johnnysd]

7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Aaron Rodgers had system questions - to that point no Cal QB had been good. 

consistent accuracy in NCAA isn't the same as NFL accuracy 

Sam Darnold and Mark Sanchez were both "accuracy" guys coming out - read the scouting reports - they and Rodgers at least did it in the Pac 12 

Wilson best games are against mountain west /independent schedule

He's got a top 5 CFB offensive line, 24 and 25 year olds blocking for him and a draftable WR on the team and half of American Samoa on defense, it's not like he's playing on Wyoming. but BYU plays no one beats no one real and that's the issue that can't really be explained away before the draft 

 this guy really needs another year of college to season but they are striking while the iron is hot i.e. before he gets hurt again 

 

 

You do realize that "level of competition" has almost literally ZERO attach rate to success in the NFL. In fact you could make an argument that a higher percentage of the top "small school" first round guys have been more succesful than the majors.

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

excellent short yardage burst

John. What in the hell are you talking about.

[johnnysd]

2 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

Are you serious? Coastal Carolina was ranked 12th in the playoff rankings at the end of the season, and 14th in the nation by AP. 

We've already squashed your injury argument, and the "Zach Wilson isn't special" garbage. What else ya got?

And the funny thing is that some analysts believe CC is his STRONGEST tape, because they had an awesome game plan, he struggled a little early, was plagued by drops and in the end adjusted made some insane throws and came within one yard of victory. In fact if he had gotten that yard everyone would be pointing to that as one of his best tapes. People need to watch that game.

[johnnysd]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

John. What in the hell are you talking about.

Zack Wilson has sprinter like acceleration in the first 5-10 yards.

[johnnysd]

11 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

Two years ago, but still ...

Former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer calls Trevor Lawrence "the best quarterback ever"

Teddy Rydquist | 2 years ago

 

 

 

 

FOX Sports analyst Urban Meyer had some high praise for Clemson quarterback and Heisman Trophy favorite, Trevor Lawrence.

Discussing the possibility of another Alabama-Clemson matchup in the College Football Playoff, Meyer broke down why it all hinges on the sophomore.

 

 

“It’s very hard to repeat. Once you win it, everything changes.

“I think Dabo Swinney, as long as he can keep that team together…the quarterback is the best quarterback in college football, ever. But what about the rest of the team? Are they going to stay focused and keep swinging like they did last year?”

A few of Meyer’s own pupils – Tim Tebow, J.T. Barrett, Dwayne Haskins – rank among the game’s most prolific quarterbacks.

For his part, Lawrence was about as impressive as possible in his debut season. Starting the final 11 games of the season, he helped guide Clemson to a 15-0 record and the program’s third national championship. He completed 65.1% (259-398) of his passes for 3,280 yards, 30 TD and just four interceptions.

Announcing his retirement as Ohio State’s head coach following last season’s Rose Bowl victory over the Washington Huskies, Meyer is now serving as an assistant athletic director at the school, in addition to his duties with FOX Sports.

Stepping up into the full-time head coaching role following his 3-0 debut as the interim in 2018, former offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Ryan Day named sophomore Justin Fields the starter for Buckeyes.

Playing in 12 games for the Georgia Bulldogs last season, Fields transferred to Ohio State in January and was granted immediate eligibility by the NCAA. The No. 5 Buckeyes will face FAU at Ohio Stadium on Saturday at 12:00PM ET to begin their season.

Pretty much everyone said that then. QBs evolve over time.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, johnnysd said:

Zack Wilson has sprinter like acceleration in the first 5-10 yards.

John. Are you trolling us?

[kdels62]

15 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Aaron Rodgers had system questions - to that point no Cal QB had been good. 

consistent accuracy in NCAA isn't the same as NFL accuracy 

Sam Darnold and Mark Sanchez were both "accuracy" guys coming out - read the scouting reports - they and Rodgers at least did it in the Pac 12 

Wilson best games are against mountain west /independent schedule

He's got a top 5 CFB offensive line, 24 and 25 year olds blocking for him and a draftable WR on the team and half of American Samoa on defense, it's not like he's playing on Wyoming. but BYU plays no one beats no one real and that's the issue that can't really be explained away before the draft 

 this guy really needs another year of college to season but they are striking while the iron is hot i.e. before he gets hurt again 

 

 

I forget how BYU are perennial contenders...They were good because they had Zach Wilson. 

[johnnysd]

56 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

John. Are you trolling us?

No. The 1080 measures short area explosion and speed.

 

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, BroadwayRay said:

Are you serious? Coastal Carolina was ranked 12th in the playoff rankings at the end of the season, and 14th in the nation by AP. 

We've already squashed your injury argument, and the "Zach Wilson isn't special" garbage. What else ya got?

19-30 for 240 1 td 1 INT 

 

Only semi legit defense he faced all year.  This wasn’t him facing Ohio State or Alabama it was freaking Coastal Carolina. That’s the definition of not special

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, johnnysd said:

No. He is not the only person on his team. Plus i saw a star where they had incredibly low talent on the team. I mean seriously do you expect BYU to be an Alabama?

Yes it’s a team sport but Wilson if he’s so good should have done better.  He loaded up against nobodies like Navy, Western Kentucky etc

[Biggs]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

Ok even if all this is true, for the sake of argument 

quick name one player on Coastal Carolina or who ever went to Coastal Carolina without looking it up 

he's playing vs noones 

We're talking about the NY Jets drafting him.  For f**K sake it's not like were asking him to QB the Saints.  We're the Coastal Carolina of the NFL.  

[Philc1]

3 hours ago, JiF said:

Heel click, in shorts, no defenders. 

Reminds me of when patsfantx owned me the day Paxton Lynch looked so good in his pro day

[FidelioJet]

2 hours ago, adobolo2 said:

Just a tought but does it worry the people who want Wilson as our new qb that there is a good percentage of people on this board who want to stick with Darnold, even after 3 year of complete garbage with the odd flash of brilliance we would rather him as our Qb over wilson.

The 32nd qb in the nfl over wilson......either the Darnold people are mad or the wilson people are getting carried away with anyone over Darnold.

Nah!

The board is almost always divided.   People are wrong, people are right.  

[FidelioJet]

1 hour ago, johnnysd said:

He can run a 4.5. He is far from slow. And he has excellent short yardage burst which is more important for an actual QB anyway

 

[adobolo2]

15 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Nah!

The board is almost always divided.   People are wrong, people are right.  

Just read the entire 3 pages of the new WR core better suited to Wilson tread.

If it is to he Wilson then so be it, I just hope you, chris sims and Tim jenkins are right.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

All this fluffing of Zach Wilson is bull sh*t right?

No-one actually thinks this kid is going number 2?

It's Fields or Sewell or a trade back.

No way JD drafts this oft injured twink.  

[dbatesman]

9 hours ago, BroadwayRay said:

You can say this about any player with an injury history.

He very clearly cannot say it about Penei Sewell.

[Melly-Mel]

15 hours ago, heymangold said:

if you don't see it on game film, pro days don't matter.

i find it impossible that the jets need to see pro days to make their decision on the QB.

Agreed, pro day is for hype and excitement

[Morrissey]

6 hours ago, Philc1 said:

19-30 for 240 1 td 1 INT 

 

Only semi legit defense he faced all year.  This wasn’t him facing Ohio State or Alabama it was freaking Coastal Carolina. That’s the definition of not special

For the record The pick was on a hail Mary before the half 

[Morrissey]

4 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

All this fluffing of Zach Wilson is bull sh*t right?

No-one actually thinks this kid is going number 2?

It's Fields or Sewell or a trade back.

No way JD drafts this oft injured twink.  

You can criticize a player without using homophobic language. I have faith in you. 

[T0mShane]

Lance Zierlein has Wilson as his 13th ranked player and compares him to Manziel and Jake Plummer:

 

[T0mShane]

[thebuzzardman]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Triple lutz 

Triple Lindy