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herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

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We Definitely need to draft a TE

 

There was some debate at wide receiver and running back on which NFL Draft prospect would be the top player at the position, but there is no question at tight end. Florida’s Kyle Pitts is a special talent and will be an immediate NFL weapon for the team that drafts him in the top 10.

After Pitts, there are four prospects who should be drafted on Day 2 followed by another handful of talented tight ends (and one fullback) who will be targets in the mid-to-late rounds.

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Note: Each prospect’s age is calculated to the nearest hundredth on draft day.

1. Kyle Pitts, Florida (6-foot-6, 240 pounds)

Philadelphia, Pa. (Archbishop Wood); Age: 20.56

A two-year starter at Florida, Pitts lined up mostly detached (slot and outside) while also seeing inline snaps with his hand on the ground in head coach Dan Mullen’s scheme, which requires versatility from the tight ends. He leaves Gainesville as the most productive tight end in school history, setting the school record for receiving yards (1,492) at his position.

Described as a “unicorn” by the Florida coaching staff, Pitts is what a twitchy big man looks like, using his natural reflexes, flexible movements and athletic ball skills to be a cheat code as a pass-catcher. Although he lacks the body power to sustain or drive block, he is willing and competitive to contribute as a blocker, but he should be evaluated more as a weapon than a traditional tight end. Overall, Pitts boasts special athleticism to separate in coverage and the elite pass-catching skills to be a mismatch playmaker similar to Darren Waller. He projects as a “move” tight end and one of the best talents in the 2021 draft class.

All-22 Takeaway: How hard is it to cover Pitts? Kentucky cornerback Kelvin Joseph is a possible first-rounder in April because he is one of the best athletes in this draft class. Yet, Pitts was able to shake him down the seam, create a passing window and then finish in the end zone with speed. This is a special talent making another special talent look ordinary.

2. Pat Freiermuth, Penn State (6-foot-5, 260 pounds)

Merrimac, Mass. (Brooks); Age: 22.51

A three-year starter at Penn State, Freiermuth lined up on the wing, in the slot and inline in former offensive coordinator Kirk Ciarrocca’s scheme. He caught a pass in 29 straight games (all but his college debut) and ranked third in the FBS among tight ends (prior to his injury) with 77.5 receiving yards per game in 2020. He passed Mike Gesicki for the most touchdown catches by a tight end in Penn State history.

Though not sudden, Freiermuth is an athletic mover with strong hands and a fearless demeanor. Inaccurate passers often made him work for his catches. As a blocker, he delivers strong pop at contact, but doesn’t consistently drive or generate movement, giving defenders a chance to shed and get by him. Overall, Freiermuth doesn’t have the overwhelming traits, mainly as a blocker, to live up to the “Baby Gronk” moniker given to him in college, but his athletic, competitive and dependable play style is why he projects as a high-floor NFL starter.

3. Brevin Jordan, Miami (Fla.) (6-foot-3, 244 pounds)

Las Vegas, Nev. (Bishop Gorman); Age: 20.79

A three-year starter at Miami, Jordan was a weapon at tight end in offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee’s scheme while lining up primarily in the slot. His production and impact increased each of the past three years and he was a consistent chain-mover with 52 of his 73 receptions (71.2 percent) the past two seasons resulting in a first down.

A fluid mover for his size, Jordan quickly enters his route and doesn’t break stride at the catch point, tracking the ball and carrying his speed to be a seam-buster (63.3 percent of his career receiving yards came after the catch). Though he gives terrific effort as a blocker, he lacks ideal size and strength in this area, which lowers his margin for error versus NFL defenders. Overall, Jordan needs to become more detail-focused as a blocker and route-runner, but he has the athleticism and ball skills to be a three-level pass-catching threat. He projects similar to Irv Smith as a “move” tight end prospect.

All-22 Takeaway: Jordan went out strong in his final collegiate game, scoring twice in the bowl game against Oklahoma State, including this post pattern. The Las Vegas native gives an outside jab step before bursting toward the post, creating false steps for the safety. Jordan gives the quarterback an open window and the pass is on point. And it is worth noting that the safety is Kolby Harvell-Peel, a First Team All-Big 12 defender who will likely be drafted.

4. Tommy Tremble, Notre Dame (6-foot-4, 252 pounds)

Johns Creek, Ga. (Wesleyan); Age: 20.91

A two-year starter at Notre Dame, Tremble was a versatile tight end in offensive coordinator Tommy Rees’ scheme, lining up primarily inline and in the backfield. Still relatively new to the position, he missed his senior year of high school and was part of a crowded tight end depth chart in South Bend. He saw only 53 targets in his Irish career and finished sixth on the team in receiving in 2020 (and didn’t find the end zone).

Although his production is lacking, his tape is enough to get evaluators excited. He displays the competitiveness to be a bulldozer as a run-blocker and ties up defenders in pass pro. He needs to mature as a route-runner and finisher, but he flashes the athleticism and body control to work past underneath defenders and make himself available as a target. Overall, Tremble was underutilized as a receiver in college and therefore unrefined in areas, but he is an ascending pass-catcher and displays the point-of-attack skills to be an asset as a blocker. He projects as a better pro than a college player as he continues to develop.

5. Hunter Long, Boston College (6-foot-5, 254 pounds)

Exeter, N.H. (Deerfield); Age: 22.69

A two-year starter at Boston College, Long was a high-volume target tight end in offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti’s pro-style scheme while lining up inline and detached. After sharpening his blocking skills his first three years in Steve Addazio’s power-run offense, his pass-catching skills were highlighted with the new coaching staff (and transfer quarterback Phil Jurkovec) in 2020 as he rarely left the field and led the nation in receptions among tight ends.

Long is a quarterback’s best friend with his field sense, focus in traffic and the way he rescues errant throws. His coordinated footwork and body movements show both as a route-runner and blocker, but he can do a better job as a route salesman and sustain player. Overall, Long isn’t a dynamic athlete, but he is a functional-level blocker and smooth pass-catcher with the reliable hands to quickly earn the trust of his quarterback. He projects similar to an Austin Hooper-style tight end.

All-22 Takeaway: Long’s outstanding play awareness and reliability are why he was such a popular target for Jurkovec. On this play against Duke, he breaks off his route once he sees his quarterback in trouble and works toward an opening in the middle of the field. Long uses his strong, accepting hands to finish the touchdown catch through contact.

6. Ben Mason, Michigan (6-foot-3, 256 pounds)

Newtown, Conn. (Newtown); Age: 21.93

A part-time starter at Michigan, Mason was a hybrid fullback/H-back in offensive coordinator Josh Gattis’ pro spread scheme while lining up mostly wing and in the backfield. A four-year contributor on special teams coverages, he was a versatile offensive player as a blocker, rusher and receiver while also bulking up to 275 pounds as a junior and playing on the defensive line.

As a lead blocker or pass protector, Mason is physical and balanced at the point of attack, accelerating into and bullying his target. He has shown the ballhandling skills to be effective in short-yardage or on basic routes, but his impact on special teams and presence in the locker room are what will keep him on an NFL roster. Overall, Mason doesn’t have an extensive résumé as a pass-catcher, but he boasts the athleticism, toughness and smarts to be a three-way player in the Patrick Ricard mold. He projects as an immediate special team performer who can be worked into the offensive game plan.

7. Tre’ McKitty, Georgia (6-foot-4, 247 pounds)

Wesley Chapel, Fla. (IMG Academy); Age: 22.30

A one-year starter at Georgia, McKitty was a “move” tight end in offensive coordinator Todd Monken’s scheme while lining up mostly inline and wing. After 49 combined catches as a sophomore and junior at Florida State, he was one of the key free-agent signings for the Bulldogs last offseason, but he saw only 10 targets in 2020 and was underutilized as a pass-catcher throughout his collegiate career (never eclipsed 70 yards receiving in any of his 42 career games).

A well-built, balanced athlete, McKitty has strong hands and the ability to make catches with defenders draped all over him. As a blocker, he needs to improve his sustain skills, but he plays with the pop, power and toughness to be a solid positional blocker. Overall, McKitty must do a better job getting open and giving his quarterback an open target, but he has the blocking chops and receiving skills to compete for a backup tight end role in the NFL.

8. Kenny Yeboah, Ole Miss (6-foot-4, 247 pounds)

Allentown, Pa. (Parkland); Age: 22.50

A one-year starter at Ole Miss, Yeboah lined up inline and detached in head coach Lane Kiffin’s up-tempo spread scheme. After four nondescript years at Temple and a brief commitment to Baylor, he landed with the Rebels in 2020, and Kiffin’s offense helped showcase his athleticism and toughness, similar to Harrison Bryant the previous season at FAU.

A high school wide receiver, Yeboah has the field-stretching speed to attack the seam and be productive against linebackers before and after the catch. Though he works hard to maintain body positioning as a blocker, he can get pushed around and lacks aggressive teeth to overwhelm opponents. Overall, Yeboah will be limited as a blocker versus NFL-level defenders, but he has intriguing athleticism and pass-catching traits. He projects as a versatile “move” tight end who can line up at fullback and wingback.

9. Pro Wells, TCU (6-foot-4, 250 pounds)

St. Petersburg, Fla. (Dixie M. Hollins); Age: 22.78

A part-time starter at TCU, Wells lined up as a detached tight end in offensive coordinator Doug Meacham’s scheme while lining up primarily in the slot and occasionally inline or in the backfield. He didn’t receive a heavy target load in the Horned Frogs’ offense, but was productive when called upon. He led the team in touchdown catches each of the past two seasons.

Although he is still learning how to make coverage reads and adjustments, Wells has the route acceleration to give his quarterback windows while also flashing the ball skills to win 50-50 throws. As a blocker, his lack of physicality might limit him inline, but he has enough talent to occupy defenders in space when he stays committed. Overall, Wells needs to become a more detail-focused route-runner and blocker to stick on an NFL roster, but he has enough athletic traits to create separation along his routes and develop into an adequate positional blocker. He projects as a No. 3 development tight end with the potential to be more.

All-22 Takeaway: As a pass-catcher, Wells is still very raw with his route pacing and coverage reads, but he can create once the ball is in his hands. Lined up inline versus Oklahoma, he quickly attacks the void in the middle of the field and runs through two Sooners, motoring for a 47-yard gain. Wells requires patience at the next level, but his undeveloped skills are intriguing.

10. Tony Poljan, Virginia (6-foot-7, 263 pounds)

Lansing, Mich. (Catholic); Age: 24.01

A one-year starter at Virginia, Poljan played Y tight end in offensive coordinator Robert Anae’s scheme while lining up inline and detached. After switching between quarterback and tight end over his first three seasons at Central Michigan, he moved full time to tight end for the Chippewas in 2019 and had a productive senior year at Virginia, ranking top seven in the FBS in catches (38) and touchdown grabs (six) among tight ends in 2020.

Poljan is a good-sized target with impressive body control and the play strength to get the job done as a blocker. He will complete catches in traffic, but his routes tend to be predictable and he struggled to separate on film. Overall, Poljan is still relatively new to the tight end position and requires further development, but he has natural pass-catching skills and physical inline blocking ability. He projects as a developmental Y tight end.

(Photo of Kyle Pitts: Jasen Vinlove / USA Today)

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19 minutes ago, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

Bills fan Troll

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9 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

Bills fan Troll

yep u got me-all of my psls I own and having season tickets in the family since the early 70s was all set up for this moment 

jets have trash tight ends which is a fact -instead of having 3-5 bad ones how about just having one good one lol

 

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We signed a blocking TE to a 1 year, $2M deal to be a role player.  My guess is that we will release Ryan Griffin sometime between now and the start of the season and save $2M.  It is not a signing anyone should get excited over, but I am not sure why people have a problem with this. 

And yes, we still need another TE.

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1 hour ago, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

Tight end is definitely a question with that said you need atleast 1 who can block in the Shannahan offense. Kroft is really good blocker.

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1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Maybe you should just walk away then

You clearly don’t derive any joy from this team.

Why blindly continue following something that does nothing other than piss you off and irritate you?

Kinda like reading JN everyday, huh?

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Griffin is Douglas's  enunwa,

Awful contract to a guy coming off a terrible injury.

Herndon stinks.

I am fine with kroft as a blocking Te but that puts a bad light on Wesco.

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2 hours ago, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

Don’t worry. After we use the #2 pick on a quarterback, we will then use the #23 to find a starting TE, starting CB, starting LB, starting OG, and starting DE.

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2 hours ago, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

Leave the tight end talk to me. Go bitch about the weather or taxes somewhere else 

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Zach Rudolph would have been a great signing, IMO.

Instead of chasing DBs like Keanu, get some guys who score TDs. This is 2021. You need playmakers.

And dont give me the age thing on Rudolph. There's nothing wrong with signing a productive tight end who plays on your team for 2 years until you sign/draft someone younger. It's called bridging the gap. Whether its Darnold or Wilson, we need a tight end. And right now we have NOTHING at the position.

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Tyler Kroft agrees to one-year deal with Jets

Myles Simmons

The Jets are adding a tight end.

Tyler Kroft has agreed to a one-year deal with New York, according to his agent Mike McCartney.

Kroft spent the last two seasons with the Bills. He caught 12 passes for 119 yards with three touchdowns in 2020.

Kroft began his career with the Bengals, who selected him in the third round of the 2015 draft. He played four years with Cincinnati, making 67 catches for 661 yards with eight touchdowns in 51 games.

Overall, Kroft has 85 catches for 851 yards with 12 TDs in 72 contests.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/19/tyler-kroft-agrees-to-one-year-deal-with-jets/

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10 hours ago, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

Incorrect.

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12 hours ago, JetsFanatic said:

I haven’t given up on Herndon yet, he played better at the end of the season. Also still possible to draft a TE.

I mean I guess I didn't really watch the end of the season, but part of that was because Herndon sucked and lost us games. I had high expectations going into last year. He sucks, don't let him fool you 2 years in a row. We need a real pass catching TE still. It's not him

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20 hours ago, Barton said:

Zach Rudolph would have been a great signing, IMO.

Instead of chasing DBs like Keanu, get some guys who score TDs. This is 2021. You need playmakers.

And dont give me the age thing on Rudolph. There's nothing wrong with signing a productive tight end who plays on your team for 2 years until you sign/draft someone younger. It's called bridging the gap. Whether its Darnold or Wilson, we need a tight end. And right now we have NOTHING at the position.

Richard Rodgers is still available.  We could also trade for Zach Ertz

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On 3/20/2021 at 11:26 AM, Bronx said:

Not all 52 players are starters. This guy is a good blocker. 4/20 is around the corner, celebrate my friend. 

Its 420 somewhere...

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herdon is terrible 
griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well
now we sign another jag from the bills
folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends
We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 
They're not All-Pros. Like most of the Pat's splashy signings, they're solid starters getting All Pro money because of when they signed. There's one TE on the first team and one on the second usually. They beating out Kelce or Kittle? If one of those guys has an off year, there are still like 10 guys that are more likely than Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry- established guys like Darren Waller and Mark Andrews, up and comers Robert Tonyan and Logan Thomas. Don't sleep on Gronk or Jared Cook... Austin Hooper, maybe a healthy OJ Howard?


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On 3/20/2021 at 11:24 AM, kmnj said:

herdon is terrible 

griffin is terrible-his extension last year was terrible as well

now we sign another jag from the bills

folks laughing that the pats signed two tight ends-both of their tight ends  can be all pro caliber tight ends

We have three trash ones that will not be productive at all-is Joe running a tight end rescue charity for the league? 

 

 

 

remember when the bellichicken used something like 4 top picks on te's?  it was quite a while ago and none of them worked out. i'm not sure anyone can say herndon is bad.  he was drafted under bowles and then had two seasons under gase so it's not like he's received some really good coaching.

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