prime21 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kiper looks like an alien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 If the current zach hype train keeps speeding up like this watch the jags take him and we get trevor. Its nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 https://www.theringer.com/2021/3/23/22344253/zach-wilson-nfl-draft-byu-cougars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, prime21 said: Kiper looks like an alien According to this guy The ZW's biggest problem Is he got better year over year. What an awful trait, let's stay away for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: If the current zach hype train keeps speeding up like this watch the jags take him and we get trevor. Its nuts! That would be a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, prime21 said: Kiper looks like an alien Pretty spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 https://youtu.be/1jMgwRobvqk Both Mel and Todd say keep Sam 3 days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I'm convinced Mel hasn't watched a single Jets game in 3 years 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 If the current zach hype train keeps speeding up like this watch the jags take him and we get trevor. Its nuts!Yessss my padawan.... the plan is nearly complete.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 23 hours ago, Morrissey said: I'm convinced Mel hasn't watched a single Jets game in 3 years I can understand why, it hurts my eyes. Last year was some the worst football I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 5:14 PM, HighPitch said: If the current zach hype train keeps speeding up like this watch the jags take him and we get trevor. Its nuts! no way everyone and there grandmother says trevor will be great. if Jax doesnt draft him and its true there GM is gone. why? because the GM went against the grain. he thought he was smarter than everybody and got it wrong. now if Trevor is a bust, the GM will be fine, even if Wilson is a great QB. why? cause EVERYBODY said Trevor was the best. cant blame him too much when EVERYONE got it wrong. same thing is starting to happen here. if we pick Zach and hes a bust JD should be fine if the roster is good, because EVERYBODY is saying hes the 2nd best QB. if we dont pick Zach and hes great. JD is done . he will look like the only guy on planet earth who didnt know that. if your going to go against the hype... you better be right! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 no way everyone and there grandmother says trevor will be great. if Jax doesnt draft him and its true there GM is gone. why? because the GM went against the grain. he thought he was smarter than everybody and got it wrong. now if Trevor is a bust, the GM will be fine, even if Wilson is a great QB. why? cause EVERYBODY said Trevor was the best. cant blame him too much when EVERYONE got it wrong. same thing is starting to happen here. if we pick Zach and hes a bust JD should be fine if the roster is good, because EVERYBODY is saying hes the 2nd best QB. if we dont pick Zach and hes great. JD is done . he will look like the only guy on planet earth who didnt know that. if your going to go against the hype... you better be right!Sam Darnold says "Hi"Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, doitny said: no way everyone and there grandmother says trevor will be great. if Jax doesnt draft him and its true there GM is gone. why? becomes the GM went against the grain. he thought he was smarter than everybody and got it wrong. now if Trevor is a bust, the GM will be fine, even if Wilson is a great QB. why? cause EVERYBODY said Trevor was the best. cant blame him too much when EVERYONE got it wrong. same thing is starting to happen here. if we pick Zach and hes a bust JD should be fine if the roster is good, because EVERYBODY is saying hes the 2nd best QB. if we dont pick Zach and hes great. JD is done . he will look like the only guy on planet earth who didnt know that. if your going to go against the hype... you better be right! This is correct. GM's will never admit it, or not even necessarily consciously make that choice but the reality is self preservation will drive the ultimate decision. It's why, IMHO, JD will inevitably come to the conclusion that trading Sam and and drafting Wilson is what's in the best interest of the New York Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 6:53 PM, Morrissey said: I'm convinced Mel hasn't watched a single Jets game in 3 years I'd bet money on it. That's the thing that drives me nuts about listening to national sports shows. You have guys who have watched Sam take 10 snaps in two years telling you that he's secretly good and that the Jets should build around him. It makes you want to stab yourself in the eyes. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Sam Darnold says "Hi" Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Come on... Mac was easily the worst GM in the sport. The QB was NOT the reason he was fired. Not even close. At the time he got fired the Jets and the league were still very high on Sam. He had a solid rookie year and closed the season on a high note.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Come on... Mac was easily the worst GM in the sport. The QB was NOT the reason he was fired. Not even close. At the time he got fired the Jets and the league was still very high on Sam. He had a solid rookie year and closed the season on a high note..Doesn't change the fact that Darnold ... the highest rated QB in the draft just finished his 3rd season 32nd in the league.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Come on... Mac was easily the worst GM in the sport. The QB was NOT the reason he was fired. Not even close. At the time he got fired the Jets and the league was still very high on Sam. He had a solid rookie year and closed the season on a high note.. This is true, but people overreacted to the last 4 games. The truth is. Sam had 3 really good games and 1 bad game and everyone acted like that meant he was definitely going to be elite. It was a tiny sample size that had followed what was shaping up to be a bad rookie season up until that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: This is true, but people overreacted to the last 4 games. The truth is. Sam had 3 really good games and 1 bad game and everyone acted like that meant he was definitely going to be elite. It was a tiny sample size that had followed what was shaping up to be a bad rookie season up until that point. I agree. Just the point I was making was Mac getting fired had NOTHING to do with Sam. At the time he got fired the Jets were very high on Sam - and it was looked at as one of the few positive things Mac did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, doitny said: no way everyone and there grandmother says trevor will be great. if Jax doesnt draft him and its true there GM is gone. why? because the GM went against the grain. he thought he was smarter than everybody and got it wrong. now if Trevor is a bust, the GM will be fine, even if Wilson is a great QB. why? cause EVERYBODY said Trevor was the best. cant blame him too much when EVERYONE got it wrong. same thing is starting to happen here. if we pick Zach and hes a bust JD should be fine if the roster is good, because EVERYBODY is saying hes the 2nd best QB. if we dont pick Zach and hes great. JD is done . he will look like the only guy on planet earth who didnt know that. if your going to go against the hype... you better be right! You read my mind! Spot on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 10:15 AM, THE BARON said: I would only want the Jets to keep Darnold *IF* they installed an offence that fits his skill set. And that is to say, he should be traded to a team that knows how to use him. I have ZERO confidence in any of the Jets management or coaches knowing what to do or being allowed to do what needs to be done. Pick it apart and look at it from ten different angles, but the most compelling fact remains. The Jets have the same owner, so get used to more of the same bad product. If that was not the case, the Jets would be drafting first overall and bringing on Trevor Lawrence. This organization is still jammed-up and will be until they change ownership. No offense fits Darnold’s skill set. He has no skill set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 So Kiper has us taking Wilson at 2. Then, he has Carolina trading up to 3 to grab the guy we SHOULD be taking. Great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 5:05 PM, maury77 said: You would be landing on top of the blob of skin and bones that used to be me. So you live in Jacksonville too??! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: No offense fits Darnold’s skill set. He has no skill set. HAHAHA... Good one I have always described Darnold as a "stylist". Meaning, he wont work out in most offensive systems. Certainly not the system Gase was trying to jam him into. However, I think Sam would shine in a modernized version of the Joe Bugel / Joe Gibbs offense that the Redskins ran in the 1980's. That was a great offense for the skill set that Joe Theismann had and it would work very well with Sam too. I don't think there are any HC's or OC's out there that could or would be inclined to run that type of an offense. Such an offense would be build around powerful and athletic offensive lineman that can work as a unit in an aggressive man blocking scheme. Lots of lateral motion of the line with copious misdirection in the running game. The old counter gap / counter trey, to which there are now "modern" versions of. They alreadly have a LT in Becton that would be a worth his weight on gold to that type of an offense. The passing game would rely on lots of play action and the speed and skills of the pass catchers rather than a scientific approach to "overwhelming" zones and clockwork timing and pinpoint ball placement. Anyway... I could spend all morning describing that type of offence, but I think you get the general idea. Darnold would be ideal in that type of offence... Opposite of what would suite Brady or Peyton Manning. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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