playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I'd hate to see the Dolphins get this guy. Would Joe Douglas drafting Kyle Pitts 2 overall be like David Gettleman drafting Saquan Barkley 2 overall three years ago, or would this be a genius pick by Joe Douglas? Would you draft Kyle Pitts and then roll with Darnold and/or some other quarterback prospect you can target by trading back into the lower first round of this years draft? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post k-met57 Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 we cant draft a TE. this would be the equivalent of drafting Jamal Adams all over again with major holes to fill at premium positions. we need OL, we need CB...all much more important. 12 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 A TE number 2 overall? Not sure that has ever happened Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 To be fair, 4.46 is WR numbers. Call him a power slot. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barton Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 How often do tight ends run 40 yards straight downfield again? Vernon Davis ran a 4.38 and was a good but never a great player. Had over 800 yards only 3 times in a 15+ year career. Not saying Pitts isnt gonna be great. But 40 yard dash for a tight end? Nice to see but ehhh in terms of relevance. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post genot Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, tfine said: A TE number 2 overall? Not sure that has ever happened Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Your drafting a 6'6' 245lb TE with soft hands, who's faster than a lot of wide receivers already starting in the NFL. He's unstoppable one on one. Might be the best player in the draft. 8 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, tfine said: A TE number 2 overall? Not sure that has ever happened Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Vernon Davis went 6 overall in the 2006 draft. I believe that's the highest a tight end has ever been drafted. Don't quote me on that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 That’s a pro day time not combine and there’s no chance of the Jets drafting a TE at 2. The team has too many needs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Where did Winslow Jr get picked? Top 5 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedBeardedSavage Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Barton said: How often do tight ends run 40 yards straight downfield again? Vernon Davis ran a 4.38 and was a good but never a great player. Had over 800 yards only 3 times in a 15+ year career. Not saying Pitts isnt gonna be great. But 40 yard dash for a tight end? Nice to see but ehhh in terms of relevance. Vernon Davis is an amazing athlete, but he was never an excellent receiver/actually good at the footballs. Pitts is special. This 40 confirms what's been said about him for a year now - he's a freak and what you saw from him on Saturdays is likely what you're gonna see from him on Sundays. I don't think anyone is arguing for him to be taken #2. But he's definitely a top target if we traded down. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said: Where did Winslow Jr get picked? Top 5 I think. 6 overall by the Browns in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The dude is an Adonis better yet an Avatar, he’s not real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, k-met57 said: we cant draft a TE. this would be the equivalent of drafting Jamal Adams all over again with major holes to fill at premium positions. we need OL, we need CB...all much more important. Yes, and a quarterback. Blue chip number 2 pick no later . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, JiF said: The dude is an Adonis better yet an Avatar, he’s not real. Robert Saleh going from Kittles to Pitts...All gas no brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 He’s the closest thing we’ve seen to Calvin Johnson since well Megatron himself (6’5” 239lbs 4.38 forty). If we draft Pitts, my vote goes to calling him Galvatron. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Charlie Brown Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 Drop down two slots............ get this guy... 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Robert Saleh going from Kittles to Pitts...All gas no brakes. Bet dat. Who we trading with? Atlanta? Lions? Carolina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan666 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I wood take him in a heart beat great TE hardest guys to cover this is gling to be unstoppable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, JiF said: Bet dat. Who we trading with? Atlanta? Lions? Carolina? That's a question for @football guy If I had to guess, I'd say a trade with Atlanta makes sense. Don't fall back out the top 5, and gain some more draft capital. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, New York Mick said: That’s a pro day time not combine and there’s no chance of the Jets drafting a TE at 2. The team has too many needs. This, i look at every single one of these pro day times and mentally at .1 to.15 to the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sammybighead Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Guys, if you imagine pitts as a WR, then why not instead take the best WR in the draft, aka jamarr chase. Possibly one of the best WR prospects in a decade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: That's a question for @football guy If I had to guess, I'd say a trade with Atlanta makes sense. Don't fall back out the top 5, and gain some more draft capital. I don't know enough about Atlanta info-wise, but just looking at it from the outside, I don't see why they would trade up. They restructured Matt Ryan's contract this offseason, essentially locking him onto the roster for the next 2 years (unless they were willing to eat $40+ million next year). Are you trading up for a QB who may be on the bench for a full 2 years? I believe ultimately it will be trade to Carolina. It's going to be hard to peg where Kyle Pitts goes; he can go as high as 3 or as low as 13. I personally don't see him falling past the Cowboys at 10. I think it's possible he goes 3-5, but I wouldn't call it likely. PHI at 6 is more possible so lets play out a hypo: say Jets traded down to 8, Pitts was the top player on their board and he's there at 6. Douglas would likely have the option to strike a deal with the Eagles to move up 2 spots, or sit tight and see what happens. If he has a few players on his board still available including Pitts or strong intel that Eagles/Lions aren't going that route, he'd probably wait it out. If Pitts is by far his best positional player and the drop off is steep after him, then he'd move up. Ultimately, I think Pitts goes between 6-9 whether it's to the Jets or someone else. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 i know its not traditional to take a te in the top 5 but pitts is prob the best player in the draft. hes no tight end hes a monster that can do it all. if we trade out and hes still there i dont care. take him in a heart beat. only way you dont is if you fall in love with a qb. im a gators fan but that is not a homer take. the dude is that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, football guy said: I don't know enough about Atlanta info-wise, but just looking at it from the outside, I don't see why they would trade up. They restructured Matt Ryan's contract this offseason, essentially locking him onto the roster for the next 2 years (unless they were willing to eat $40+ million next year). Are you trading up for a QB who may be on the bench for a full 2 years? I believe ultimately it will be trade to Carolina. It's going to be hard to peg where Kyle Pitts goes; he can go as high as 3 or as low as 13. I personally don't see him falling past the Cowboys at 10. I think it's possible he goes 3-5, but I wouldn't call it likely. PHI at 6 is more possible so lets play out a hypo: say Jets traded down to 8, Pitts was the top player on their board and he's there at 6. Douglas would likely have the option to strike a deal with the Eagles to move up 2 spots, or sit tight and see what happens. If he has a few players on his board still available including Pitts or strong intel that Eagles/Lions aren't going that route, he'd probably wait it out. If Pitts is by far his best positional player and the drop off is steep after him, then he'd move up. Ultimately, I think Pitts goes between 6-9 whether it's to the Jets or someone else. I will not be shocked if the Dolphins take him 3 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: we cant draft a TE. this would be the equivalent of drafting Jamal Adams all over again with major holes to fill at premium positions. we need OL, we need CB...we need a QB....all much more important. Some slight editing for ya! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This, i look at every single one of these pro day times and mentally at .1 to.15 to the time. Previous GMs have said they don’t discount pro day 40 times. Discrediting pro days is a fan thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, tfine said: A TE number 2 overall? Not sure that has ever happened Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app I sure hope not. Would love to have the guy on my team but not great value at 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I will not be shocked if the Dolphins take him 3 overall. I wouldn't be necessarily shocked either, so the Jets really need to make sure they have 3-4 other guys they really love before committing to a trade down as far as 8, and is why I think the Jets really don't want to move outside of the top 10... potential to be a big drop-off in talent after that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Too bad we need a QB so bad or else he’d be a home run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: To be fair, 4.46 is WR numbers. Call him a power slot. Vincent Jackson who's the same size (1 inch shorter) ran a 4.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Pitts is a rare Calvin Johnson type of talent and you dont pass on rare talents like that in the top 5. The problem with picking Adams in the top 5 is he couldn’t cover. If he covered and hit like Ronnie Lott no one would doubt his worth as a top 5 pick. Sorry guys but Pitts is the best player in the draft. He fills a huge need and I really think the Jets should take him and not look back.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Lol this conversation is really happening? rhetorical question, it is but it shouldn’t be. We have the second overall pick and a question mark at QB. Give it up boys. Would you rather have the Calvin Johnson of tight ends or a shot at Aaron Rodgers? Also a rhetorical question. (*Note: Calvin Johnson only played in 2 playoff games in his career - lost them both but not his fault....because he didn’t have a QB). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted March 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, David Harris said: Lol this conversation is really happening? rhetorical question, it is but it shouldn’t be. We have the second overall pick and a question mark at QB. Give it up boys. Would you rather have the Calvin Johnson of tight ends or a shot at Aaron Rodgers? Also a rhetorical question. (*Note: Calvin Johnson only played in 2 playoff games in his career - lost them both but not his fault....because he didn’t have a QB). If the organization didn't believe in Sam Darnold they wouldn't consider it, but the thing is they do believe in him even if every fan thinks they shouldn't, and they have had and will continue to have these conversations. So looking at it through their lens: they view the current QB as a 23-year-old with gifted traits that has the ability to be a good if not great QB once surrounded with some more talent and better coaching. By bypassing the QB and trading down from #2, they can potentially landing an all-time tight end/playmaker + additional draft capital + a future 1st round pick. If incumbent doesn't maximize potential, have the cap and draft flexibility to add a QB via FA, trade, or draft in 2022. Is that so crazy? 11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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