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15 hours ago, slimjasi said:

The other thing is that we are extremely unlikely to be picking #2 again next year. If we go 7-9 next year, we’ll probably be looking to trade up for someone like SF did this year. It’s obviously preferable to not have to trade away major draft capital for the QB . . . So if we like one of the QBs in this draft class, why wouldn’t we just take one now? 

This is what I think a lot of people don't get.

If we went 6-10 this year and Darnold had a similar stat line to 2019 there's no doubt we'd be running it back with him again.

The reason we're replacing Darnold is that we were so bad in 2020 (largely because of QB play) that we're in a unique scenario to draft an elite QB prospect -- one we won't be in again, most likley, in the near future. We traded three 2nds to move up to get Darnold. We can now draft a potentially better prospect without giving up anything and we can do so because Darnold stunk so badly.

It's a no brainer.

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Nope.  If they draft a QB high, they're tied to that guy. That's the make or break career move.  If they trade out of the pick and trot Darnold out there, they're not tied to anything. They'

Oh yes they are. If they trade out, roll with Sam and he sucks it will be on this CS for staying with Sam.  It will be 1,000 times worse if ZWilson develops and becomes everything people think he

I find it kind of funny that many of the same people here who continue to sh*t on Maccagnan for passing on Watson and Mahomes are now advocating that we pass on every QB in this class for another year

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On 3/27/2021 at 10:05 AM, K_O_Brien said:

More than a specific QB, the new Jets regime will hitch its wagon to the LaFleur/Shanahan style of offence. 

San Francisco obviously didn't think Darnold can run that system effectively, or they wouldn't have given up the farm for QB3 in this draft when they could have had Sam for a second rounder. If the Niners do not think Darnold can be effective in such a scheme, why would the Jets? 

Now who the best play-action college QB in the country? Zach Wilson easily. You can bet Mike LeFleur is banging the table for this guy, and he's probably not alone. It would make no sense for the Jets to now pivot to a different rookie who is less adept and has less experience of a Shanahan system.  

Given his prowess in the west coast offence, if Wilson fails at the Jets, it's unlikely any future replacement would do any better in the same system. So in that sense at least, the Jets are tied to Wilson if he is indeed the guy who starts in September. 


I think the bold is really significant. Assuming Shanahan and Lafleur see the same things in Darnold, why would JD pass on an opportunity to replace Darnold with that #2 pick? If finding a QB to run that system at a high level  were easy, why are the 49ers still looking for one and willing to pay the price to trade up for one (a price that would probably kill JD to have to pay in some future draft in order to move up and take a QB).

I think the simplest explanation is that JD will not trade the pick but will take a QB at 2.

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58 minutes ago, slats said:

What happens if the Jets draft Wilson and he sucks? 

That question lurks with every single player that gets drafted. The question would apply to the QB you draft in 2022 that costs you two extra first round picks. 

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