jetblue95 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 41 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Travis Kelce and Rob Gronkowski say hi kelce (a 3rd round pick) had 6 catches for 43 yards in their SB win. of the list of offensive players to lead to KC to that title, he ranks 4 or 5th after mahomes, d. williams, t. hill and even watkins in that game. he also had the league MVP throwing him the ball. gronk (a 2nd round pick) is a great TE, but he happens to play with possibly the best QB to have ever played the game. in the 3 SB wins he's played in, he's never had more than 6 catches. again, a valuable player, but not really "THE" reason his team won any of those games. now should we go over the list of QBs who've made a great impact vs. TEs who've made a great impact or review the history of TEs drafted in the top 5? heck, i don't even like taking a WR that high. but a TE???? faghetaboutit.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, jetblue95 said: kelce (a 3rd round pick) had 6 catches for 43 yards in their SB win. of the list of offensive players to lead to KC to that title, he ranks 4 or 5th after mahomes, d. williams, t. hill and even watkins in that game. he also had the league MVP throwing him the ball. gronk (a 2nd round pick) is a great TE, but he happens to play with possibly the best QB to have ever played the game. in the 3 SB wins he's played in, he's never had more than 6 catches. again, a valuable player, but not really "THE" reason his team won any of those games. now should we go over the list of QBs who've made a great impact vs. TEs who've made a great impact or review the history of TEs drafted in the top 5? heck, i don't even like taking a WR that high. but a TE???? faghetaboutit.... And Tom Brady was drafted in round 6 we should only draft qbs in round 6 Kelce was second in the league in receiving yards btw which is not bad for a “luxury” position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: And Tom Brady was drafted in round 6 we should only draft qbs in round 6 Kelce was second in the league in receiving yards btw which is not bad for a “luxury” position lol at trying to equate the importance of a QB with that of a TE yeah, kelce is a tremendous player. remind me of how many playoff games he won before the chiefs added mahomes? (answer = 1 between 2013-2018). there is a reason teams don't draft TEs with premium picks. they aren't a premium position and more often than not, the best ones aren't even 1st round picks. now granted brady shows that you can find a great QB outside of the top part of the draft. but there is a reason teams place an emphasis of drafting QBs high. it is the most important position in the game. now i'm not sure if any of the guys available in the draft are franchise QBs. but taking a TE with the 2nd pick is sheer stupidity for a franchise with no definitive answer to the QB position. even if you could guarantee me that pitts has a career equal to kelce (probably hall of fame caliber), i still wouldn't use the #2 pick on him. of course, there are no such guarantees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Philc1 said: And Tom Brady was drafted in round 6 we should only draft qbs in round 6 Kelce was second in the league in receiving yards btw which is not bad for a “luxury” position This doesn't make any sense. Brady is the exception to the rule. How many TEs have been 2nd in the league in receiving yards? He is also the exception to the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 TEs drafted in the top 10 since 2000 (I expanded it to 10 since a list of the top 5 is blank) 2019 - TJ Hockenson (8) 2014 - Eric Ebron (10) 2006 - Vernon Davis (6) 2004 - Kellen Winslow Jr (6) Now for those that consider Pitts more of a "receiver", here's the list of WRs taken in the top 6 since 2000. 2017 - Corey Davis (5) 2015 - Amari Cooper (4) 2014 - Sammy Watkins (4) 2012 - Justin Blackmon (4) 2011 - AJ Green (4), Julio Jones (6) 2007 - Calvin Johnson (2) 2005 - Braylon Edwards (3) 2004 - Larry Fitzgerald (3) 2003 - Charles Rodgers (2), Andre Johnson (3) 2000 - Peter Warrick (4) Even here it's not a tremendously impressive list considering we are talking 21 years of draft history. There are possibly 4 eventual hall of famers on the list, but I don't think any of them have actually won a super bowl, let alone had any meaningful and prolonged playoff success. I guess Watkins has a ring, but that's on his 3rd team as a role player, not a stud WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Let’s wait until he has a decent game against an actual NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Let’s wait until he has a decent game against an actual NFL team. Are you referring to Zach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Pitts is my favorite prospect in this draft but we pretty much have 0 chance at him because if we don't take qb we are not staying at pick 2 and he won't be there for us if we move down. The kid has atlanta falcons written all over himSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile appMy prediction was pretty goodSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 pitts is a beast atlanta lucky to have him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: My prediction was pretty good Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Pitts dominated top competition like Alabama Wilson got stats playing community colleges in Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The three best prospects in the draft all looking like legit NFL players - Pitts, Chase and Sewell. We took Zach Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: Yikes Did you really just bump a thread from your banned account? Really? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Did you really just bump a thread from your banned account? Really? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Pitts just ate our lunch . Sam and Pitts . OH , WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 See you guys in 3 years when we are tanking for Arch and Zach Wilson is playing for the league mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Pitts just ate our lunch . Sam and Pitts . OH , WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN ????? Who saw that coming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: See you guys in 3 years hopefully not 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Spoot-Face said: hopefully not Which team will Zach be backing up for in 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Albaniajet said: Which team will Zach be backing up for in 3 years? There's being a blind homer and there's being a jerkoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said: There's being a blind homer and there's being a jerkoff. Zach is the jerkoff what a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, Albaniajet said: Zach is the jerkoff what a bust No you are. Everyone at this point knows your opinion of Zach. You are just being a dick head troll jerk off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Pitts dominated top competition like Alabama Wilson got stats playing community colleges in IdahoI was referring more to that the falcons would draft himSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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