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Do You Think Deshaun Watson Still An Option?


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26 minutes ago, doitny said:

im wondering if there might be working on a settlement. and both parties agreed to keep quiet until a deal was made.

remember thats what buzzbee wanted from day 1. the money. if Watson agreed we probably wouldnt even know about this.

 

Even in this scenario, Watson resumes being magma-hot trade target in the league as soon as the checks are signed. Should the Jets not be in on that bidding, particularly if the aggrieved parties took the payout? 
 

Also, I believe Monday will be two weeks since Buzbee said he was going right to the police with his mountains of evidence. 

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7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Ultimately, it comes down to this: if the Jets back out, then Watson is a Panther, Niner, or Patriot, and exactly no one is talking about these masseuses in three weeks, much less so if he’s raising Lombardis for his next team.  

Niners are backing out for the same reason the Jets are, by the time its going to take to clear Watsons name they'll have drafted their QB.  

The Pats are just that paranoid, knee jerk response to any top player being moved.  

 

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10 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

The first complaint surfaced less than two weeks ago. The story isn’t cold. It hasn’t even started yet. You’re howling at the moon.

The Jets should take in the sails on this the second the Patriots, Panthers, Niners, Dolphins, etc do, and nothing that’s happened yet would push any of those teams into walking away from the table. If these are all the cards Buzbee has to play, and it seems as though that’s the case, then all that’s left is the arbitrary and nominal punishment from Roger. IMO, the Jets shouldn’t be the one NFL team to find a moral compass on this issue while no one else will follow suit. 

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8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Niners are backing out for the same reason the Jets are, by the time its going to take to clear Watsons name they'll have drafted their QB.  

The Pats are just that paranoid, knee jerk response to any top player being moved.  

 

What makes you think the Niners have backed out? Do we really think they climbed all the way to 3 for Mac Jones?

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6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Jets should take in the sails on this the second the Patriots, Panthers, Niners, Dolphins, etc do, and nothing that’s happened yet would push any of those teams into walking away from the table. If these are all the cards Buzbee has to play, and it seems as though that’s the case, then all that’s left is the arbitrary and nominal punishment from Roger. IMO, the Jets shouldn’t be the one NFL team to find a moral compass on this issue while no one else will follow suit. 

“All the cards Buzbee has to play”? We’re talking about nearly two dozen separate civil suits. Absolutely no one is trading for him until this is resolved in both the courtroom and the commissioner’s office,  which is going to take months. You need to go get some fresh air, man.

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18 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Even in this scenario, Watson resumes being magma-hot trade target in the league as soon as the checks are signed. Should the Jets not be in on that bidding, particularly if the aggrieved parties took the payout? 
 

Also, I believe Monday will be two weeks since Buzbee said he was going right to the police with his mountains of evidence. 

i dont care what scenario it is. If the NFL lets him play we should go for him.

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15 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

“All the cards Buzbee has to play”? We’re talking about nearly two dozen separate civil suits. Absolutely no one is trading for him until this is resolved in both the courtroom and the commissioner’s office,  which is going to take months. You need to go get some fresh air, man.

Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002

What's next?

While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes.

Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name.


 

 

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1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002

What's next?

While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes.

Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name.


 

 

Yes, that would leave only the NFL investigation of the accusations, and we all know how swiftly those get wrapped up. 

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8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

What makes you think the Niners have backed out? Do we really think they climbed all the way to 3 for Mac Jones?

They made the deal after Lance and Jones pro days.  Before Fields pro day.  

Theyre going back for Jones part 2.  The main people, who were are going to see Jones are skipping Fields pro day.

Id say its either Jones or Lance.  Neither one I would have guessed a team would have traded as many assets to get them in trade.  But they moved up for one of the two, dont you think?

 

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19 hours ago, PCP63 said:

Obviously, everything is up in the air with the allegations. Personally, after seeing the texts, I could see the allegations as either not being true, or one of them being true with the others hopping on just for settlements. That said, I have to wonder what the price would be to trade for him right now. Would HOU accept far less because of the chance he is guilty, and is suspended? If so, for us, is it worth the risk? 

 

This is all assuming you don't think Wilson is the guy.

Anything is possible but his current team is holding all the cards atm.

If he does end up a Jet it will be similar to the Colts...a high priced, overrated QB (Manning not Watson) who makes so much money the team cannot afford anyone else to build a SB winner.

I, for one, am not certain the Jets select Wilson.  It will be interesting to watch.

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9 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002

What's next?

While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes.

Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name.


 

 

So why haven’t they ended it already? And I’m assuming the NFL’s disciplinary process will also end that same day, with the league completely exonerating him and handing down no punishment?

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9 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002

What's next?

While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes.

Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name.


 

 

These cases are nuts.  The whole process is.

The "victims" are anonymous (Jane Doe), but supposedly that's normal in civil cases.

There's no evidence given.  Again normal in civil cases.

There aren't any police reports.  Wait for it...  normal in civil cases.

 

Sure seems like if someone wants to bribe someone else over some fake BS during a vulnerable time in the defendant's life, civil is the way to go.

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19 hours ago, Jets723 said:

I never saw it as a realistic option for two reasons.  The cost and the amount of holes we have.  JD wants to build through the draft so giving up a ton of high picks certainly won’t help build the roster 

Deshaun Watson fills a lot of holes.

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11 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002

What's next?

While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes.

Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name.


 

 

So all they have to do is settle 20 suits in a month? No problem that’s totally normal. You’ve really got this lawyering thing down. Great work as usual sleuths. 

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This is my conspiracy theory take on this:

  • Although there are some allegations that resemble true "sexual assault," it appears that most of them are in the perverted/harassment category.
  • My guess is that everyone has known about this for a long time.  The ownership in Houston looked the other way while Watson was the loyal team star.
    • If the team did know (teams know everything), letting it get this far without intervening was completely moronic.
  • But when Watson turned on the team, the ownership gave the nod and let the lawyers loose on Watson.  Watson is being punished for stepping out of line.
  • This could have all sorts of implications for the NFL, the Texans and their ownership that will need to get played out.
  • But with the Jets having the second pick and Darnold, and many expressing doubts over spending draft picks for Watson, the notion Jets are trading for him can be dispelled.  
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imo both watson and russel wilson may be possible depending on which way they go in the draft.  right now it sounds like a qb upgrade is in the works and bringing in a top vet solves the problem.  that doesn't mean paying the price that's been bandied about.  as we get closer to the draft and the season's start things will start to change.

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