BROOKLYN JET Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: That story has gone cold already, my dude. As reprehensible as you find the accusations, unless the cops get after it or one of the accusers wants to step up and share the Insta DMs, Watson is going to skate, sooner than later. Woody Johnson baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Oh well if it hasn’t managed to captivate the notoriously long-term attention span of the tweeters, who are we to judge? That’s what I’m talking about, holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Can’t wait to watch you bros squirm when he goes to the Pats or Niners and Zack Wilson is on IR with a sprained pinkie. Cant wait to see you waiting. And waiting. And waiting some more ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, doitny said: im wondering if there might be working on a settlement. and both parties agreed to keep quiet until a deal was made. remember thats what buzzbee wanted from day 1. the money. if Watson agreed we probably wouldnt even know about this. Even in this scenario, Watson resumes being magma-hot trade target in the league as soon as the checks are signed. Should the Jets not be in on that bidding, particularly if the aggrieved parties took the payout? Also, I believe Monday will be two weeks since Buzbee said he was going right to the police with his mountains of evidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Have you seen it mentioned prominently anywhere this week? The first complaint surfaced less than two weeks ago. The story isn’t cold. It hasn’t even started yet. You’re howling at the moon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: Ultimately, it comes down to this: if the Jets back out, then Watson is a Panther, Niner, or Patriot, and exactly no one is talking about these masseuses in three weeks, much less so if he’s raising Lombardis for his next team. Niners are backing out for the same reason the Jets are, by the time its going to take to clear Watsons name they'll have drafted their QB. The Pats are just that paranoid, knee jerk response to any top player being moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, dbatesman said: The first complaint surfaced less than two weeks ago. The story isn’t cold. It hasn’t even started yet. You’re howling at the moon. The Jets should take in the sails on this the second the Patriots, Panthers, Niners, Dolphins, etc do, and nothing that’s happened yet would push any of those teams into walking away from the table. If these are all the cards Buzbee has to play, and it seems as though that’s the case, then all that’s left is the arbitrary and nominal punishment from Roger. IMO, the Jets shouldn’t be the one NFL team to find a moral compass on this issue while no one else will follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Niners are backing out for the same reason the Jets are, by the time its going to take to clear Watsons name they'll have drafted their QB. The Pats are just that paranoid, knee jerk response to any top player being moved. What makes you think the Niners have backed out? Do we really think they climbed all the way to 3 for Mac Jones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Jets should take in the sails on this the second the Patriots, Panthers, Niners, Dolphins, etc do, and nothing that’s happened yet would push any of those teams into walking away from the table. If these are all the cards Buzbee has to play, and it seems as though that’s the case, then all that’s left is the arbitrary and nominal punishment from Roger. IMO, the Jets shouldn’t be the one NFL team to find a moral compass on this issue while no one else will follow suit. “All the cards Buzbee has to play”? We’re talking about nearly two dozen separate civil suits. Absolutely no one is trading for him until this is resolved in both the courtroom and the commissioner’s office, which is going to take months. You need to go get some fresh air, man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 is this a ******* joke? he's a serial sexual assaulter AT BEST. he may be out of the league soon. adios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Even in this scenario, Watson resumes being magma-hot trade target in the league as soon as the checks are signed. Should the Jets not be in on that bidding, particularly if the aggrieved parties took the payout? Also, I believe Monday will be two weeks since Buzbee said he was going right to the police with his mountains of evidence. i dont care what scenario it is. If the NFL lets him play we should go for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, dbatesman said: “All the cards Buzbee has to play”? We’re talking about nearly two dozen separate civil suits. Absolutely no one is trading for him until this is resolved in both the courtroom and the commissioner’s office, which is going to take months. You need to go get some fresh air, man. Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002 What's next? While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes. Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002 What's next? While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes. Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name. Yes, that would leave only the NFL investigation of the accusations, and we all know how swiftly those get wrapped up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: What makes you think the Niners have backed out? Do we really think they climbed all the way to 3 for Mac Jones? They made the deal after Lance and Jones pro days. Before Fields pro day. Theyre going back for Jones part 2. The main people, who were are going to see Jones are skipping Fields pro day. Id say its either Jones or Lance. Neither one I would have guessed a team would have traded as many assets to get them in trade. But they moved up for one of the two, dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Miami is getting him after Tua gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 19 hours ago, PCP63 said: Obviously, everything is up in the air with the allegations. Personally, after seeing the texts, I could see the allegations as either not being true, or one of them being true with the others hopping on just for settlements. That said, I have to wonder what the price would be to trade for him right now. Would HOU accept far less because of the chance he is guilty, and is suspended? If so, for us, is it worth the risk? This is all assuming you don't think Wilson is the guy. Anything is possible but his current team is holding all the cards atm. If he does end up a Jet it will be similar to the Colts...a high priced, overrated QB (Manning not Watson) who makes so much money the team cannot afford anyone else to build a SB winner. I, for one, am not certain the Jets select Wilson. It will be interesting to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Absolutely. and trading for Watson >>>>> Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, Biggs said: Miami is getting him after Tua gets hurt. For a 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002 What's next? While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes. Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name. So why haven’t they ended it already? And I’m assuming the NFL’s disciplinary process will also end that same day, with the league completely exonerating him and handing down no punishment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, dbatesman said: So why haven’t they ended it already? The lawyers have to agree on the $$ for settlements the time to trade for Watson is exactly now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike135 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002 What's next? While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes. Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name. These cases are nuts. The whole process is. The "victims" are anonymous (Jane Doe), but supposedly that's normal in civil cases. There's no evidence given. Again normal in civil cases. There aren't any police reports. Wait for it... normal in civil cases. Sure seems like if someone wants to bribe someone else over some fake BS during a vulnerable time in the defendant's life, civil is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The lawyers have to agree on the $$ for settlements the time to trade for Watson is exactly now Roethlisberger’s civil case involved a single accuser, and that settlement took two and a half years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 19 hours ago, Jets723 said: I never saw it as a realistic option for two reasons. The cost and the amount of holes we have. JD wants to build through the draft so giving up a ton of high picks certainly won’t help build the roster Deshaun Watson fills a lot of holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 12 hours ago, T0mShane said: Have you seen it mentioned prominently anywhere this week? That thing about the big ship wedged in that narrow trench wasn't this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Fun coincidence. After figuring in rookie signings, Jets have around 10-12mil in cap space free. Watson's cap hit this year: $10mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 hours ago, T0mShane said: Without criminal charges, it seems this can end whenever Watson and Buzbee agree to end it. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/6985557002 What's next? While the majority of civil cases are settled before trial, it is immediately unclear whether Watson and Hardin will go that route in any or all of these cases, given the stakes. Settlements would likely include non-disclosure agreements, which would prevent more details about the alleged incidents from emerging. But Watson could instead decide to take the lawsuits to trial – which would draw out the process but give him the chance to more completely clear his name. So all they have to do is settle 20 suits in a month? No problem that’s totally normal. You’ve really got this lawyering thing down. Great work as usual sleuths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Deshaun Watson fills a lot of holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 This is my conspiracy theory take on this: Although there are some allegations that resemble true "sexual assault," it appears that most of them are in the perverted/harassment category. My guess is that everyone has known about this for a long time. The ownership in Houston looked the other way while Watson was the loyal team star. If the team did know (teams know everything), letting it get this far without intervening was completely moronic. But when Watson turned on the team, the ownership gave the nod and let the lawyers loose on Watson. Watson is being punished for stepping out of line. This could have all sorts of implications for the NFL, the Texans and their ownership that will need to get played out. But with the Jets having the second pick and Darnold, and many expressing doubts over spending draft picks for Watson, the notion Jets are trading for him can be dispelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: So all they have to do is settle 20 suits in a month? No problem that’s totally normal. You’ve really got this lawyering thing down. Great work as usual sleuths. Nothing that Hymie Elhai can’t handle over a weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rangerous Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 imo both watson and russel wilson may be possible depending on which way they go in the draft. right now it sounds like a qb upgrade is in the works and bringing in a top vet solves the problem. that doesn't mean paying the price that's been bandied about. as we get closer to the draft and the season's start things will start to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 18 hours ago, T0mShane said: Have you seen it mentioned prominently anywhere this week? And less than 24 hours later, he's on the cover of SI and ESPN. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/28/2021 at 7:55 PM, T0mShane said: You totally will. Missing out on that chance to win 4 games ....devastating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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