QB1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 No I don’t, I think it is the reason he is not undervalued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yes especially since he really has little to zero in common with those players 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfaceoff Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 To some degree yes. I think people see the arm and crazy throws and are clamoring for the next mahomes. There has been a huge influx of exciting young QBs that are injecting life into franchises. I feel with Wilson there is no middle ground. Dude is going to flame out HARD or we could have a true Franchise stud QB. Normally I would still roll with Sam, because I think he will definitely be better this year, but even if we could see a coaching staff open the playbook and take some deep shots and breath some life into this corpse of a team, I’m willing to roll the dice on Wilson. easier said than done, because Douglas NEEDS to make the right call. His reputation will live or die with what we do or don’t do at 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I think more than anything we need a Quarterback!!!!! I hope he can play, we’ve not had a good one since Joe Willie. It’s about fooking time. Go Jets! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 No, He's being valued for his skill-set and how it aligns with the way todays NFL is being played. He's perfectly suited for it. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Dcat said: Darnold is injury prone. For that 6'4 or 6'5 frame he gets hurt. If u like injury prone Zach is your guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, JETSY14 said: Mac Jones is terrible. All he does is stare down his reciever. He's lucky he has top wide recievers that make big plays. Sub out Justin Fields name with Mac Jones and that’s right on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 I think he’s being overvalued because he prospered in a year where the entire earth was screwed to oblivion by a pandemic, playing against a bunch of punch and judy-ass Big Sky Conference hangers-on 10 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamBilly Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: No, He's being valued for his skill-set and how it aligns with the way todays NFL is being played. He's perfectly suited for it. Trey Lance and Justin Fields also align with the way todays NFL is played. Sam Darnold was projected to align with the current NFL also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think he’s being overvalued because he prospered in a year where the entire earth was screwed to oblivion by a pandemic, playing against a bunch of punch and judy-ass Big Sky Conference hangers-on Yeah but those throws facing Dubuque Community College DBs looked so pretty 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QB1 Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think he’s being overvalued because he prospered in a year where the entire earth was screwed to oblivion by a pandemic, playing against a bunch of punch and judy-ass Big Sky Conference hangers-on Why didn’t anyone else prosper under similar circumstances? I was one of the biggest Wilson haters on this forum because of the way he looks. The reality is that other than the injury history there is almost no red flags with this player. The talent is electric and is obvious in film, the pro day just validated it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yes, what mahomes has done won't be replicated. Teams who are original are successful, teams trying to play catch up or copycat are not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, HamBilly said: Trey Lance and Justin Fields also align with the way todays NFL is played. Sam Darnold was projected to align with the current NFL also. And that's why they are/were projected to be top 10 picks. Some are better than other, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, adobolo2 said: Yes, what mahomes has done won't be replicated. Teams who are original are successful, teams trying to play catch up or copycat are not. Aaron Rodgers has been doing it for 15 years. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, HamBilly said: It feels as if Wilson is escaping criticism because nobody wants to be wrong about the next Mahomes, Allen or Herbert. This is not meant to be an attack on Zach Wilson but why is everyone locking him as the Jets pick? Mahomes - If people thought he was going to be this good, he wouldn't have lasted until the teens in the 2017 draft. 3rd QB taken in his draft because may believe his offense wouldn't translate in the NFL. Allen - Many thought he was a surefire bust. Everyone saw him as just measurable and nothing else. Many viewed him as the 4th or 5th best QB in his draft class. Herbert - Similar to Allen, people saw measurables in a gimmicky system. Was widely regarded as the 3rd best QB in his draft class. There are several QBs in this draft with 1st round talent and a unique skillset. Having a athletic big arm QB isn't the only way to win in the NFL. Just wish there were more debates on this forum honestly evaluating all the top prospects instead of locking in on Wilson. YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamBilly Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, QB1 said: The reality is that other than the injury history there is almost no red flags with this player. That's what I am alluding to. He does have red flags that people are ignoring. For example, he is a 1 year wonder. Not saying they will have the same fate, but Mitch Trubisky had a similar rise to Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, QB1 said: Why didn’t anyone else prosper under similar circumstances? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 My answer is yes and I tip my hat to a new poster, good thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Aaron Rodgers has been doing it for 15 years. 1 superbowl It's one more than we have but if it's to be believed we will be running a similar system to Mike leflour that's great but I'd rather we be original rather than trying to replicate what the Packers have done because the chances Wilson turns out to be Rodgers is slim no matter how good of a prospect you think he is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Three different guys. Yeah, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 We have had a LOT of talk on this forum about all of the major QB's for a long time. The media and other things have pushed Wilson to near the top. We have a good number of people who still like Fields better, we have some that like lance and some that like Mac Jones. All of the QB's in this draft have some questions, as is often thee case. I will say something I said long ago, a number of years from now the guy deemed the most successful QB from this draft will not be Trevor Lawrence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post JustInFudge Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 It's the Pat Mahomes effect, for sure. It's a copycat league. You see a few players where he does some wild throw down field and you're like dude, thats Mahomes and ignore the fact, there is only 1 Mahomes on the planet. Before this season, Zach Wilson threw 12/11 TD's respectively each season at BYU, regressed freshman to sophomore year. During that same time, Sam Darnold was the youngest starter in the history of the NFL starting on one of the worst Football teams in the league surrounded by the worst offensive talent in the league and he threw for 17/19 TD's respectively and progressed in every single passing category. Another fun thought; when Zach Wilson was licking his wounds after a loss to Coastal Carolina, Sam Darnold went on the road and led the worst team in the NFL to their first win of the season vs. the 1 Defense in the NFL. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gramsci Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think he’s being overvalued because he prospered in a year where the entire earth was screwed to oblivion by a pandemic, playing against a bunch of punch and judy-ass Big Sky Conference hangers-on The real competition was in the big 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: What? You said he benefited from covid and a cake schedule, why didn’t any other player or QB benefit from similar circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just going to throw this out there. Scouts don't care about stats. They look at many other things to project a player from college to the nfl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 Joe Burrow is the main culprit for a guy exploding through with one great year. But I mean Joe exploded against the SEC with historical numbers so it's not even the best comparison. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 The argument that Wilson only thrived because of Covid is one of the most absurd things someone can say about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: Joe Burrow is the main culprit for a guy exploding through with one great year. But I mean Joe exploded against the SEC with historical numbers so it's not even the best comparison. The Jets already had at QB someone who was the holder of every significant record of the SEC and he was a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gramsci said: The argument that Wilson only thrived because of Covid is one of the most absurd things someone can say about him. New here? You can't imagine some of the absurdity thrown at the wall here regarding Wilson. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 No, I think it may be the opposite in that he simply isn't being undervalued thanks to their success. Seemingly his only wart aside from level of competition is previous injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 The Jets had this guy on the roster not that long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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