slimjasi Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If the Jets trade for him, Goodell will suspend Watson for two years. If the Pats trade for him, it’ll be six games, reduced to four, presuming Watson is eligible to even play 100 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 Me reading this two months ago: Me reading this today: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, PepPep said: they may not suspend him till the 2022 season depending on whether the charges. I dunno. Conversely, maybe the niners are looking to 2022 as the year when they would make their run? still makes more sense than going with a rookie who will take at least 2-3 years to develop, gain experience and potentially bust. Even if Watson misses 2021, at least he is a sure thing. Either way, I was just throwing it out there. I have no clue. Goodell can put him on the exempt list during investigation. He can't play/practice and does not count as a roster spot. Not sure if they would do that for a civil suit, as we have here, but if criminal charges are brought, which is a possibility still there, I would think that's what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: First Eisen, now this I think the calls that are coming in are from massage parlors and their lawyers trying to get in on the action. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: The situation is getting resolved. Now is exactly when you trade for him. Wait another 6 months after Wilson busts and we are back to square one having to offer QW and 4 first round picks Quinnen Williams is back in, I see. I think youmay have been the originator of that theory. j/k before you look it up. Q was never going anywhere. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: To clarify, I have never been to an actual massage therapist in my life and there was never any pretense I was at the massage parlor for anything but a handjob. Was he a nice guy at least? Asians with smaller hands (perhaps) may give the impression that one is girthier. Just sayin' (or so I imagine) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, dbatesman said: You hear that, CanadaSteve? The guy who thinks multiple sexual assault allegations are a market inefficiency has a problem with your argument! plus the lawyer is slimy too..... don't forget that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, David Harris said: Think Watsons only trade possibility is the Panthers- Rhule is desperate for a QB and I could see him doing it Rhule might subject him to strict religious discipline too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I think some of you chaps are underestimating the social issues power base these days and the effects it can have. People are worrying about a suspension for watson, that though a problem, is not the bigger problem. Trade for a guy with these unresolved issues of this nature is asking for a world of hurt, not just a bit of bad press but financial hurt for the team and the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I think some of you chaps are underestimating the social issues power base these days and the effects it can have. People are worrying about a suspension for watson, that though a problem, is not the bigger problem. Trade for a guy with these unresolved issues of this nature is asking for a world of hurt, not just a bit of bad press but financial hurt for the team and the league. The NFL is invulnerable to this stuff. Watson hasn’t lost a single endorsement deal as yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I think some of you chaps are underestimating the social issues power base these days and the effects it can have. People are worrying about a suspension for watson, that though a problem, is not the bigger problem. Trade for a guy with these unresolved issues of this nature is asking for a world of hurt, not just a bit of bad press but financial hurt for the team and the league. no way Woody Johnson lets Watson and his issues through the Florham Park gate. Highly conservative owner. No way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I think some of you chaps are underestimating the social issues power base these days and the effects it can have. People are worrying about a suspension for watson, that though a problem, is not the bigger problem. Trade for a guy with these unresolved issues of this nature is asking for a world of hurt, not just a bit of bad press but financial hurt for the team and the league. It would be "asking for a world of hurt" at the original asking prices. I agree with that. At some point however and if the market adjustment is sufficient then I would consider it. Absolutely Right now we are talking civil cases only and not indication that this being pursued as a criminal offense in any of the jurisdictions. The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets. John D. Rockefeller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: The NFL is invulnerable to this stuff. Watson hasn’t lost a single endorsement deal as yet. 'Yet' and once the wheels get grinding it is vulnerable. You start to get to the big sponsors with big pressure and there is trouble. We've seen it with team names to an extent. The NFL is making big deals about women refs and women coaches and such. Do not underestimate the power of people on issues like this, even people who do not care a white about the NFL suddenly take up the torch. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, just the reality of things these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, EM31 said: It would be "asking for a world of hurt" at the original asking prices. I agree with that. At some point however and if the market adjustment is sufficient then I would consider it. Absolutely Right now we are talking civil cases only and not indication that this being pursued as a criminal offense in any of the jurisdictions. The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets. John D. Rockefeller The price of a trade is totally irrelevant. And the quote by Rockefeller no long applies to the way things are these days. Attitudes have changed, the internet has made instant communication a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: The price of a trade is totally irrelevant. And the quote by Rockefeller no long applies to the way things are these days. Attitudes have changed, the internet has made instant communication a thing. Right. As is shown by the NFL taking away Bob Kraft's franchise for an actual criminal offense (before the billionaire time machine that is). Or the NFL forcing big Ben into retirement after very credible rape accusations (much worse than is being alleged here). Watson's offenses seem pretty tame and if proven he will be financially liable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Until there is a resolution any team trading for Watson is inviting a public relations disaster. Don't see how its possible despite Buzzbees highly questionable tactics and bizarre unwillingness to turn over the supposed evidence to the police. The whole thing is a sht show - especially for a team like the Jets who are trying to change the perception they are a clown shoes franchise. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: 'Yet' and once the wheels get grinding it is vulnerable. You start to get to the big sponsors with big pressure and there is trouble. We've seen it with team names to an extent. The NFL is making big deals about women refs and women coaches and such. Do not underestimate the power of people on issues like this, even people who do not care a white about the NFL suddenly take up the torch. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, just the reality of things these days. Not to be flip here, but it never happens. We think it’ll happen, we kinda hope it’ll happen, but it never happens. The FBI had video of Kraft inside a rub and tug and he was on a dais at a White House bruncheon a few weeks later. They arrested the women who jerked him off, then people were so outraged about it that the networks and Amazon handed the NFL the GDP of a small country to broadcast the games. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I like Wilson but he’s anything but a sure thing. If we can get Watson cheap and if this mess looks like it will clear up then do it! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Not to be flip here, but it never happens. We think it’ll happen, we kinda hope it’ll happen, but it never happens. The FBI had video of Kraft inside a rub and tug and he was on a dais at a White House bruncheon a few weeks later. They arrested the women who jerked him off, then people were so outraged about it that the networks and Amazon handed the NFL the GDP of a small country to broadcast the games. Not comparable situations. Kraft is behind the scenes and can control the message while Watson would be in front of cameras defending himself every week. Kraft is a billionaire and white. Krafts allegations, while seedy, didn't include cramming his junk in anyone's face or blasting off any and everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Jets fans worried about the media portraying us negatively Calling me a Jets “fan” at this point is somewhat of a stretch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly-Mel Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Pass, we don’t need anymore of a dumpster fire ffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, KRL said: Only a moron deals for a player with 10+ sexual assault allegations against them The fact that some think that he would be good to trade for with this hanging over him is stunning to me! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pac said: Not comparable situations. Kraft is behind the scenes and can control the message while Watson would be in front of cameras defending himself every week. Kraft is a billionaire and white. Krafts allegations, while seedy, didn't include cramming his junk in anyone's face or blasting off any and everywhere. Kraft is the de facto owner of the NFL. The NFL controls its own messaging now, and every beat writer is an expendable 27 year old making $45k. If Watson goes to the Patriots, the Globe will send out a female journalist to write a think-piece about the uncaring and unfeeling debauchery of the NFL. It will be upwards of 2,000 words. It will trend online for three hours and disappear into the ether, buried by a bunch of articles written by Peter King and his ilk talking about what a big, foreboding gamble Belichick took. Then Watson will throw a bunch of TD passes and his Pats jersey will be #1 in sales all year. Consider this season’s fawning coverage of the Washington Football Team—so named to mock political correctness—after their owner was implicated in prostituting his cheerleaders all over the world. If Watson doesn’t face criminal charges, he’s going to skate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 50 minutes ago, EM31 said: Right. As is shown by the NFL taking away Bob Kraft's franchise for an actual criminal offense (before the billionaire time machine that is). Or the NFL forcing big Ben into retirement after very credible rape accusations (much worse than is being alleged here). Watson's offenses seem pretty tame and if proven he will be financially liable. It's not about the NFL tuning a blind eye, the kraft thing just adds to it and no one should be worried about the NFL initially, all it takes is for a pressure to be heaped on some sponsors and the nfl will change its tune very very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Not to be flip here, but it never happens. We think it’ll happen, we kinda hope it’ll happen, but it never happens. The FBI had video of Kraft inside a rub and tug and he was on a dais at a White House bruncheon a few weeks later. They arrested the women who jerked him off, then people were so outraged about it that the networks and Amazon handed the NFL the GDP of a small country to broadcast the games. There are tipping points, like i said, fear the NFL right now? No, but if one sponsor caves and falls the others will follow to some extent and then it is serious bad business for the NFL. I've seen it first hand with the CFL team I cheer for. We are currently the Washington of the CFL a team with no name. We were called the Edmonton Eskimos for 70 years or more. Every so often someone would rumble about the name but finally a few high profile people (who would not know a football from a frisbee) and the media started jumping all over the name and berating team sponsors. One sponsor caved in then another and all of a sudden name change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 Only a ******* idiot would give up a bunch of picks for Watsonn right now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 There’s a chance Watson doesn’t even play this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ghost420 said: Only a ******* idiot would give up a bunch of picks for Watsonn right now. I don't think anyone is saying the price for Watson is the same place it was a few weeks ago. Nobody is talking four first rounder plus starters any more. If the price comes down enough to the point where the risk/reward calculus is significantly different then we should listen to any deal. At some price point any player who has ever lived (yes, even Brady when he was 22) becomes too expensive but on the other hand at some price point any player who has ever lived deserves a 2nd look. There are no absolutes here and we should keep an open mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ghost said: There’s a chance Watson doesn’t even play this year. If he was injured and known out for 2022, at some point even in that circumstance he "might" be worth trading for. 2023 does come after 2022 last time I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ghost said: There’s a chance Watson doesn’t even play this year. And the exact same thing was said about Antonio Brown 6 months ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 You guys are still dreaming about Watson? It won’t happen now and was never in the cards before. Enjoy the rebuild, again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 3 hours ago, dbatesman said: You hear that, CanadaSteve? The guy who thinks multiple sexual assault allegations are a market inefficiency has a problem with your argument! Get me some actual evidence of Watson sexually assaulting people besides allegations not made under oath. This entire thing is trashass shakedown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 1 minute ago, CanadienJetsFan said: You guys are still dreaming about Watson? It won’t happen now and was never in the cards before. Enjoy the rebuild, again. After JD is fired in 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: I think some of you chaps are underestimating the social issues power base these days and the effects it can have. People are worrying about a suspension for watson, that though a problem, is not the bigger problem. Trade for a guy with these unresolved issues of this nature is asking for a world of hurt, not just a bit of bad press but financial hurt for the team and the league. Boycotts. Protests. Who needs the headaches. Jet's have had enough of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Get me some actual evidence of Watson sexually assaulting people besides allegations not made under oath. This entire thing is trashass shakedown Sounds like a plan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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