Jets Voice of Reason Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 The other huge point is that JD is the first GM we've had pretty much ever that is using analytics and prioritizing athletic metrics, which in the long-run is going to get us better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Disgraceful neglect of the offensive line. On offence in general to be honest. Honestly this draft is pissing me off because it’s absolutely stacked with offensive talent and of course the Jets are back round to picking a QB. We’ve picked so often in the top 10 and never had anything like a Pitts, Sewell or Chase fall into our laps. Just these “best in the draft” safeties and DT’s. It’s infuriating. Not only that the jets have done zero at CB so 23 or 34 seem destined for a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, TeddEY said: It's definitely not just the number of picks. It's OTC's draft trade value chart: https://overthecap.com/draft-trade-value-chart/ So, it includes the value of that pick. That having been said, it's certainly possible (maybe even likely) that Darnold only counts for the #3 overall pick (2443), and not the other picks. Having 3 less picks would certainly up all the percentages. Oh yea, I didn't articulate that well. I meant the value of the pick, but that only the pick itself was being factored, not the underlying picks it would take to get to that pick. Essentially, 1.03 is weighted higher than 1.04 even if it took a team 3 #1s to get to 1.04. I don't know if I'm making sense anymore. Long day at work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: Full image: 1 hour ago, Peace Frog said: 18.3% on DLine. Ooof. A combined 11.7% on OLine (0% C, 5.4% G, 6.3% T) is a crime. (And that includes JD using a 1st and 4th last year on OLine) I didn't add up the other teams' numbers but I'd have to think the Jets are at or near the bottom in this area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, WhartonJet said: Nice find. Eye opening and terribly depressing that we've taken the most swings on QB and have always come up empty hmm yesh so... who's up for another wild swing at QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, bitonti said: hmm yesh so... who's up for another wild swing at QB? Why not? Until we find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I didn't add up the other teams' numbers but I'd have to think the Jets are at or near the bottom in this area. I think the board would appreciate you stepping up to the plate and doing the maths for all the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I'm too lazy to add up G + C + OT for all the teams, but can any team have a lower combined % than the Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, DoubleDown said: Interesting note: Jets have invested much more at WR than I would have expected. I suppose the 2nd round picks have added up: Stephen Hill, Devin Smith, Denzel Mims. Idzik drafted 4 WRs in a supremely rich WR class and they all were busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, RedBeardedSavage said: The allocation of resources to non-premium positions bother me: interior d-line, safeties But mostly the Jets are just terrible at drafting quarterbacks, receivers and cornerbacks. Even when we did invest in the correct positions, it was no bueno. Joe Douglas Baratheon should avoid interior d-lineman and safeties, yes, but mostly dude just needs to hit on draft picks. Jets fans are particularly jaded in this respect, but by no means is the DL a non-premium position. Safety? Yes, about as non-premium as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: This is kind of surprising but presumably it's mainly based on lots of fliers on 2nd and 4th round types. Darnold is the only QB we've really spent premium assets on in the last ten years. Also kind of amazing we aren't #1 at safety given not only Adams and Maye B2B but the Louisville slugger as well. we used a 2nd (51) to pick hackenberg, a 2nd on geno (39), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Now draft this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, slats said: Jets fans are particularly jaded in this respect, but by no means is the DL a non-premium position. Safety? Yes, about as non-premium as it gets. The made a distinction between d-line and edge, and I'd say that's generally agree that's the differentiator between premium and non-premium on the d-line. There are exceptions, of course. Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, and maybe our boy Quinnen. But that reminds me more of the TE position. There's a handful of guys at the top that are worth top dollar and the rest are middle-of-the-pack. Edge, just like offensive tackle and corner, have a less precipitous fall off in value/contract - at least from my recollection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, RedBeardedSavage said: The made a distinction between d-line and edge, and I'd say that's generally agree that's the differentiator between premium and non-premium on the d-line. There are exceptions, of course. Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, and maybe our boy Quinnen. But that reminds me more of the TE position. There's a handful of guys at the top that are worth top dollar and the rest are middle-of-the-pack. Edge, just like offensive tackle and corner, have a less precipitous fall off in value/contract - at least from my recollection. A DT who can get to the QB is worth a top five pick, and is maybe more valuable than an Edge. We discarded Leo and the jints are paying him $20M/year. QW could earn that type of contract, too. I hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, slats said: A DT who can get to the QB is worth a top five pick, and is maybe more valuable than an Edge. We discarded Leo and the jints are paying him $20M/year. QW could earn that type of contract, too. I hope he does. I agree, but they're few and far between is my point. Besides, Leonard Williams is a 5 tech not a 3 tech or 1 tech. We've drafted, what, 4 5 tech's in the first? Wilkerson, Sheldon, Coples and Leo. Sheldon can play the 3 tech and get pressure. I'll give him that respect. The other guys not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: we used a 2nd (51) to pick hackenberg, a 2nd on geno (39), Yes, hence the 2nd round fliers I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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