Darnold to the Panthers

[JustEndTheSuffering]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Sam Darnold.  HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

What a great day to be a jet fans.  More trash out the door!!!!!!!!!!

You probably said this when we drafted him too. This team is on a never ending loop. 

[Lith]

 

[peebag]

3 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Anybody else still buzzing from the news?   This is truly an amazing day for this franchise.  Finally a chance to maybe find success with some other QB.

Don't hold your breath.

[FidelioJet]

Just now, QB1 said:

I agree that a second next year may have SLIGHTLY more value and that third this year... but the idea that a 2nd next year has more value than a 2nd this year is absurd. 

That I agree with.  Would much rather have the 2 this year.  

I just don't necessarily buy into the this year is worth a round later next year.  Never really bought into that logic.

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, QB1 said:

Lol ok big guy 

We can't? How am I wrong?

[munchmemory]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

^Posts from 2018

RLLOL.  Eventually, it will be correct.  Promise me you'll read the media reports over my urn when it does finally come to be.

[FidelioJet]

Just now, Lith said:

 

Wow!

That's a bit of a shocker.

[Lurker89]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I am optimistic.  Haven't been this optimistic in quite some time.

Stop trying to ruin things with your optimism Fidelio. 😂😂

Your schtick is unending pessimism you not allowed to just change it because it looks like we are taking the QB  prospect you like and are flush with picks for the next few years.

[rangerous]

good enough deal.i kind of like the future picks more than current because i think there are only so many really good players in any draft and once they are gone it doesn't matter much if you have more draft picks.  so just what is going to be the topic for the next few weeks before the draft?  i get the feeling it's going to be wilson and so the two pick is set.

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said:

Nathan Shepherd Is 27, but the rest is pretty accurate.

I always exaggerate his age for dramatic effect.

[Joe W. Namath]

1 minute ago, choon328 said:

The crying and the "I am sad", "The Panthers are my 2nd favorite team now" and 'I'll miss him" are so effing embarrassing.  He's not your friend, he's not your family member.  He's a dude that plays on your "alleged" favorite team who never lived up to his hype as the #3 pick in the draft for a multitude of reasons. The team contributed a lot to that and so did he. I would expect this reaction from 12 year olds, not grown men. So ridiculous and over the top. 

Darnold Feety pajamas and bobbleheads on their nightstand.  Its the only explanation.

[New York Mick]

Oh yay. Hopefully I’m wrong about this one (I’m usually not). Please let Wilson be a legitimate NFL quarterback.

[QB1]

Just now, Tranquilo said:

We can't? How am I wrong?

Why not draft Sewell at 2 then? 

[GreekJet]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

There is nuance here.

The Jets are in a serious rebuild.  Their cupboard is bare.  Having a 2 next year, for the situation the Jets are in, is far more valuable than a 3 this year.

Might not be that way for a contending team...but right now, it's the better move.

You can make the argument that a 2nd tomorrow is better than a third today, but you can’t say a 2nd tomorrow is worth as much as a 2nd today. 

You are looking at 2023-2024 before the players the Jets draft in this trade contribute. 

[JiF]

31 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

You should be happy. It is a completely new era. If the Jets had traded down I would embrace whatever their decision was whether I agreed or not.  Revisit in a couple years and see if you were right but root hard for Wilson

I'm not happy about hitting reset over and over again.  I dont love the idea of strapping a rookie HC and rookie OC with a rookie QB in this division.  It sounds like an absolute nightmare destined to fail.  So I'm not happy about taking a Qb in the top 3 twice in the last 4 drafts.  Really more frustrated then that then I am going with Zachapono.  I hope I'm dead wrong on Zachapono and he's a great.  Dont really have a choice but to root for him but this seems like a train wreck waiting to happen.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

 

Given what they just gave up for him, I'm not shocked. 

 

[pointman]

 

6 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Kid never had a chance here. No weapons, no line, awful coaches. 

 

1 minute ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

I didn’t say that it wasn’t all his fault in fact I acknowledged that I thought he was a poor decision maker however he didn’t exactly have an easy situation in his three years here. To be honest the rest of the team was a total clown show. 

Those are a lot of excuses being made, a ton of deflection, and very little blame on Sammy. He isn't good and never will be. Once he is in Carolina, that will be evident to the few who are still acting like its the Jets and not Sam.

[Stonehands]

With him joining Robbie and Carolina, it makes it easier because my ex-Jet rooting is consolidated to one team.

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

That I agree with.  Would much rather have the 2 this year.  

I just don't necessarily buy into the this year is worth a round later next year.  Never really bought into that logic.

Would you rather have a full year of scouting and combines and all kinds of sh*t next year or pick that second rounder this year?

[mrcoops]

1 minute ago, Lith said:

 

As they should. They now have him under contract for 2 years at a total of $23M. 

That's not a lot to risk on a young, starting QB who was the #3 pick 3 years ago.

[pointman]

37 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Can season ticket holders get refunds since the ticket website had Sam on em?

Yes, actually. Then you get to repurchase said tickets at a higher rate. 

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, QB1 said:

Why not draft Sewell at 2 then? 

Because you can take an OL with the 2nd 1st round pick or the 2nd round pick? What QBs do you want with the 2nd 1st round pick?

At least try to make sense

[JetFreak89]

6 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Kid never had a chance here. No weapons, no line, awful coaches. He has never been the greatest decision maker but I believe he could’ve done big things for the Jets. Rooting for him in Carolina. Will it really be any different with Wilson or Fields if we can’t get the rest of the roster together? No and we’ll be doing it all over again in 3 years. 

Only important part of the post....IF we can't do it, then no it won't be different. But the fact we have 21 picks in the next two drafts and a completely different person actually making the picks and a completely different coaching staff coaching the picks means that we actually have the chance to get it right. That wasn't the case with Maccagnan and Bowles. This is a totally different situation. 

[prime21]

Wishing you well Sam.  You are a great guy and I'm hoping a change of scenery will do you well.

 

 

 

[Zachtomims47]

This trade does nothing for me emotionally. I can't get excited for a 6th rounder this year. 

So much for trading up into the top 10. We're definitely trading down at 23. There's no way we stay. 

[johnnysd]

17 minutes ago, Warfish said:

More than I expected as well, but not much more by value.

I told folks high picks were out, and they were.

We got a 6th this year.  Not the 2nd or even 3rd this year people expected.

We did get a 2nd next year (equal to a 3rd this year) and that 4th (equiv. to a 5th).

So mid-rounder-value, as expected.

Yeah but at the same time it is two decent picks next year. Should get a solid starter at least out of the 3 picks. Pretty solid value. I really wanted to use Sam for a pick swap but this is a good alternative.

[Lith]

So, as of now, the Jets have traded all of Macc's first round picks except QW:

Leonard Williams, Darron Lee, Jamal and now Darnold.

 

[munchmemory]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Why would we be buzzing?

We all pretty much knew we were drafting Wilson, that hasn't changed.

And by "Finally" I presume you mean "our routine 3-5 year total reset".

Buzzing 'cause I'm just beyond happy that Darnold is off this team.  I feared that he would be our starter.  Right now I don't care about results.   I want to bask in a truly good moment for this franchise.   Plus at least another chance at finding success instead of more failure with Darnold.  I'm sure my bitching will come soon enough.

[Doggin94it]

3 minutes ago, Lith said:

 

Wow. They're giving him 18.6M guaranteed for 2022. 

[Zachtomims47]

Sam and Robby torching the Jets this season will be a new level of embarrassing. 

[QB1]

1 minute ago, Tranquilo said:

Because you can take an OL with the 2nd 1st round pick or the 2nd round pick? What QBs do you want with the 2nd 1st round pick?

At least try to make sense

god you are thick. 

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, GothamLurker said:

even though Sam is in a better situation for success with C-mac lol.

[BornJetsFan1983]

So let me just say as a true believer in Sam's talent, what this deal really shows is Joe D skill as a GM. Yet again he gets way more than what was deserved, while making a decisive GM move getting value, clearing the books and setting up the team to get better. No mini camp controversy at QB.

I bet coach Saleh could have have made sam work, but shoudl he have to? probably not. He just as much as Joe probably wanted their guy. I think many agree with me that Sam didn't really have a chance here, but unlike so many before him, he is going to get a second opportunity in CAR. With that staff, RB etc,. he is going to be able to prove me and alot of other right when he plays well over there.

Cant say I am excited for Wilson, all I think of is him getting hurt like burrow, but Joe likes him and that is good enough for me.

Joe Douglas has shown time and time again that he is the best hire this team has made since parcels.

Its a fact.

[QB1]

Just now, Samtorobby47 said:

Sam and Robby torching the Jets this season will be a new level of embarrassing. 

Do you expect anything different?

[JustEndTheSuffering]

2 minutes ago, pointman said:

 

 

Those are a lot of excuses being made, a ton of deflection, and very little blame on Sammy. He isn't good and never will be. Once he is in Carolina, that will be evident to the few who are still acting like its the Jets and not Sam.

Maybe he won’t be good but don’t act like this sh*t franchise deserves zero blame.