Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted April 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2021 Take note: All the guys that got fired over the last few years, from GMs to multiple Head Coaches and staffs, they all got fired for basically the same reason... Failing to support the young Franchise Quarterback (You know, the guy you just traded away for about half the amount it cost the team to draft him...). So IF you DO draft Zach Wilson or any of the other young Quarterbacks in the draft, if someone in the room suggests drafting Defense at 23 or 34 throw him out of the F***ing War Room!! Support the QB!! And if we hired yet ANOTHER Defense Minded Head Coach that needs first rounders at every position for his Defense to "succeed", you hired the wrong guy. Again. 33 2 8 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post JetPotato Posted April 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2021 You are writing this to the Johnson Brothers? Why are you assuming they can read? 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Correct, For me....O line at 23....playmaker at 34 (toney, Moore, Marshall, one of the RB)...2 cornerbacks and another O Line between the 3rd and 4th round. Look at upgrading Edge, TE, LB in 2022 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Take note: All the guys that got fired over the last few years, from GMs to multiple Head Coaches and staffs, they all got fired for basically the same reason... Failing to support the young Franchise Quarterback (You know, the guy you just traded away for about half the amount it cost the team to draft him...). So IF you DO draft Zach Wilson or any of the other young Quarterbacks in the draft, if someone in the room suggests drafting Defense at 23 or 34 throw him out of the F***ing War Room!! Support the QB!! And if we hired yet ANOTHER Defense Minded Head Coach that needs first rounders at every position for his Defense to "succeed", you hired the wrong guy. Again. P.S. Stronger letter to follow.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolchak Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Competent coaching matters. I think they hired the right guy. Now, just get some OL! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 2:50 PM, kelly said: Just make believe youre a chick? Is that how you make it count? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, JetPotato said: You are writing this to the Johnson Brothers? Why are you assuming they can read? Or have one iota of sentience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, adobolo2 said: Correct, For me....O line at 23....playmaker at 34 (toney, Moore, Marshall, one of the RB)...2 cornerbacks and another O Line between the 3rd and 4th round. Look at upgrading Edge, TE, LB in 2022 Either way, the board should dictate the 23rd and 34th, as long as theyre both offense. But really we have a lot of picks in what should be a deep draft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, Jet Nut said: Either way, the board should dictate the 23rd and 34th, as long as theyre both offense. Fair enough, I know even from doing drafts myself it's hard to turn down a top rated corner or Edge when they are still there late first or early second. I have a feeling Joe will trust himself to much to he able to find diamonds in the rough o line players later in the draft and we have no proof he can do that yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Just make believe youre a chick? ..if THAT works for YOU... COOL ! ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, adobolo2 said: Fair enough, I know even from doing drafts myself it's hard to turn down a top rated corner or Edge when they are still there late first or early second. I have a feeling Joe will trust himself to much to he able to find diamonds in the rough o line players later in the draft and we have no proof he can do that yet. We have to get help at OL, WR, TE & CB. I wont get twisted if the CB is at 23 and OL at 34 if thats the way the board plays out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Take note: All the guys that got fired over the last few years, from GMs to multiple Head Coaches and staffs, they all got fired for basically the same reason... Failing to support the young Franchise Quarterback (You know, the guy you just traded away for about half the amount it cost the team to draft him...). So IF you DO draft Zach Wilson or any of the other young Quarterbacks in the draft, if someone in the room suggests drafting Defense at 23 or 34 throw him out of the F***ing War Room!! Support the QB!! And if we hired yet ANOTHER Defense Minded Head Coach that needs first rounders at every position for his Defense to "succeed", you hired the wrong guy. Again. Agreed. My only concern is that there should be a couple of really solid CB prospects available at 23 that will tempt us into going that direction because we REALLY need help at CB. But you are right, it would be a mistake to do anything but draft offense at 23 and 34..... and probably 66. Let Saleh work his magic on the defensive side of the ball. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Take note: All the guys that got fired over the last few years, from GMs to multiple Head Coaches and staffs, they all got fired for basically the same reason... Failing to support the young Franchise Quarterback (You know, the guy you just traded away for about half the amount it cost the team to draft him...). So IF you DO draft Zach Wilson or any of the other young Quarterbacks in the draft, if someone in the room suggests drafting Defense at 23 or 34 throw him out of the F***ing War Room!! Support the QB!! And if we hired yet ANOTHER Defense Minded Head Coach that needs first rounders at every position for his Defense to "succeed", you hired the wrong guy. Again. So... you are saying we shouldn't draft Kyle Wilson but draft Ron Gronkowski? God we suck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, kelly said: ..if THAT work for YOU... COOL ! ? It’s 2021. It’s cool to be non-binary. Own it, Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: We have to get help at OL, WR, TE & CB. I wont get twisted if the CB is at 23 and OL at 34 if thats the way the board plays out I won't be happy either but it would be understandable given the likely talent available at 23 and our serious need. Guys like Samuel/Farley/Newsome could easily fall to us and with Farley I could definitely see JD looking at him as a long term stud and not as concerned about his availability week 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Has to be O and O at 23 and 34. Really should be the 3rd round pick as well..but not the end of the world. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, PS17 said: It’s 2021. It’s cool to be non-binary. Own it, Kelly. ..2021 ? ? ?.. but,.. BUT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 This thread is pretty offensive 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy and the Jets Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Not to overstate the obvious but it also benefits a young QB not to have to throw 50 times because his defense stinks. See Burrow, Joe as a recent reference... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chewy and the Jets said: Not to overstate the obvious but it also benefits a young QB not to have to throw 50 times because his defense stinks. See Burrow, Joe as a recent reference... yup, which is why we aren’t running the team. Hopefully there is a plan to build a TEAM over the next few years. Sure, some years defense is better and vice versa, but there needs to be a balance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Chewy and the Jets said: Not to overstate the obvious but it also benefits a young QB not to have to throw 50 times because his defense stinks. See Burrow, Joe as a recent reference... Best way to keep that from happening is fielding an above average O line that you can run behind while protecting the QB... see; Burrow, Joe Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Wit said: yup, which is why we aren’t running the team. Hopefully there is a plan to build a TEAM over the next few years. Sure, some years defense is better and vice versa, but there needs to be a balance. I don't know of you're new around here, but the Jets have been "addressing the defense" in every draft pretty much since 2002 or so. ? They just had to trade a 3rd overall pick because some a$$hole thought stocking up on Defensive Tackles and Safeties was a good way to support a young QB. Anyone looking for an edge rusher or Corner at 23 after drafting ANOTHER QB at the top of the draft just wants to watch the world burn. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 OL ! OL !! OFFENSIVE WEAPON !!! LOAD UP!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldrolloff Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Don’t care what anyone thinks if jaelan Phillips falls to 23 you take him. That is all carry on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Offense will always be drafted first. That will mean there will be very high defense value at 23. I can see the CB there at 23, or edge. I think Saleh gets one. 34 and 66 need to be OL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said: I don't know of you're new around here, but the Jets have been "addressing the defense" in every draft pretty much since 2002 or so. ? They just had to trade a 3rd overall pick because some a$$hole thought stocking up on Defensive Tackles and Safeties was a good way to support a young QB. Anyone looking for an edge rusher or Corner at 23 after drafting ANOTHER QB at the top of the draft just wants to watch the world burn. I would love for them to “only” draft O line this year. However, if someone slides down that is a can’t miss I can’t fault them for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Blockers, blockers, then more blockers please! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 19 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Just make believe youre a chick? oh ! ?, jNu.. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 17 hours ago, Chewy and the Jets said: Not to overstate the obvious but it also benefits a young QB not to have to throw 50 times because his defense stinks. See Burrow, Joe as a recent reference... Nah. What helps the young QB is having a good OL and weapons around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 14 hours ago, varjet said: Offense will always be drafted first. That will mean there will be very high defense value at 23. I can see the CB there at 23, or edge. I think Saleh gets one. 34 and 66 need to be OL. And we always have to be sucker team that had the best player fall to them - The defensive player that has great value that we can't pass up..,. So while every other team is building an explosive offense - we're stuck in the 1990's - good at stopping the run. NO - we should take the best offensive player on the board in the first 3 rounds this year. Support the young QB and develop him properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 2:59 PM, JetPotato said: You are writing this to the Johnson Brothers? Why are you assuming they can read? saw this ? ~ ~ V “I think people are going to look back 20 years from now and say that this is the moment the Jets shifted into a new gear and became a great team.” —Jets vice chairman Christopher Johnson, following the drafting of Sam Darnold in 2018, per Steve Serby of the New York Post. Jets: 13-35 since that quote. NFL offensive ranking, by season, since that quote: 29, 32, 32. Darnold: now a Panther. > https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/11/20-qb-decisions-nfl-draft-fmia-peter-king/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 And we always have to be sucker team that had the best player fall to them - The defensive player that has great value that we can't pass up..,. So while every other team is building an explosive offense - we're stuck in the 1990's - good at stopping the run. NO - we should take the best offensive player on the board in the first 3 rounds this year. Support the young QB and develop him properly.OL at 23 then BAP from there on. (At any position of need ... of which there are many)... this is the way ...... I have spoken...Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 7:51 PM, varjet said: Offense will always be drafted first. That will mean there will be very high defense value at 23. I can see the CB there at 23, or edge. I think Saleh gets one. 34 and 66 need to be OL. Too many singular minded people on this board... They won't agree with you... Edge makes a lot of sense here because of they value at OL, WR, rb and cb later in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skeptable said: Too many singular minded people on this board... They won't agree with you... Edge makes a lot of sense here because of they value at OL, WR, rb and cb later in the draft Are we all just supposed to agree with your singular mind? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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