Which WR at 34?

[UntouchableCrew]

Hypothetical, just wondering which of these three WRs the board would be most interested in should all three fall to 34 -- and yes I recognize this is unlikely. Let's say there's a run on OTs and CBs and WR isn't as valued as everyone thinks.

Elijah Moore

Tony Pauline’s Elijah Moore Scouting Report

Positives: Explosive home-run-hitting skill player who consistently turns in big plays whenever the ball is in his hands. Fires off the snap, quickly gets in and out of breaks. Stays low on exit, positioning himself to make the reception. Separates from defenders through route running or speed. Displays soft hands, extends to make the reception away from his frame, and plucks the ball out of the air.

Displays good eye/hand coordination as well as concentration. Comes back into the clearing to make himself an available target, finds the open spot in the defense, and gets vertical in a crowd to come away with the catch. Nicely adjusts to the errant throw. Gives effort even if he’s not involved in the play.

Negatives: Not a sturdy receiver and is easily taken down at the point by a single defender. Struggles in battles and will struggle handling press coverage at the next level.

Analysis: Moore is coming off a terrific campaign and was unstoppable at times last season. He has size and height limitations that will be a red flag for some teams, but his speed, quickness, and ability to produce as a receiver and a return specialist as well as running reverses is very attractive.

Terrace Marshall Jr

Terrace Marshall Jr. NFL Draft Profile

• Height: 6’2 5/8″
• Weight: 205 pounds
• Position: Wide Receiver
• School: LSU
• Year: Junior

Tony Pauline’s Terrace Marshall Jr. Scouting Report

Positives: Nice-sized receiver who flashes dominance and comes with a large upside. Smooth releasing off the line of scrimmage, fires into routes and stays low on exit. Extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame, adjusts to the errant throw, and comes away with the difficult catch when defenders are draped on his back.

Displays quick hands and the ability to pluck the ball from the air. Tracks the ball in the air, displays good eye/hand coordination, and keeps the play inbounds after the catch. Displays focus and makes the difficult catch in a crowd. Exposes himself to the big hit and gets pounded by defenders yet holds onto the throw.

Negatives: Lackadaisical and lets the pass get inside him on occasion. Peeks upfield and takes his eyes off the ball, which results in occasional dropped passes. Does not show a deep burst on film.

Analysis: Marshall displayed steady development in his game the past two seasons and is a natural pass catcher who must pay attention to the details of his position. He possesses all the underlying skill to develop into a second wideout for an NFL team.

Rondale Moore

 

Rondale Moore NFL Draft Profile

• Position: Wide Receiver
• School: Purdue
• Year: Junior
• Height: 5’9″
• Weight: 180 pounds

Tony Pauline’s Rondale Moore Scouting Report

Positives: Explosive, game-breaking skill player who can score from any point on the field. Displays tremendous initial quickness with a burst, has a second gear, and runs away from defenders in the open field. Tracks the pass in the air, adjusts to the errant throw, and displays strong hands with the ability to snatch the ball out of the air at full speed.

Extends his hands making the reception away from his frame, displays focus as well as concentration, and makes the over-the-shoulder reception with defenders draped on him. Comes back to the ball to make himself an available target, settles into the open spot in the underneath coverage, and displays strong hands. Possesses the speed necessary to beat defenders around the perimeter on reverses.

Negatives: Lets the pass get inside him on occasion. Not a stout receiver and often finishes plays by running out of bounds. Lack of height is a deficit.

Analysis: Moore is a playmaking receiver, return specialist, and reverse runner, who is a threat to take it the distance any time the ball is in his hands. The initial quickness he shows the first 2-3 yards when the ball is in his hands is unparalleled and has opponents playing back on their heels.r.

[derp]

Rondale Moore > Terrace Marshall >>> Elijah Moore.

I don’t think the early slots make a ton of sense with how little they’ll be 3 wide but Rondale Moore can have a role in run action and he’s crazy explosive. I’m a huge fan. Terrace Marshall may fit what they’re doing better.

I think a later slot guy (Darden) is more likely based on roster construction (Davis and Mims are under contract for three years) and again just not having that slot role on the field that often.

[UntouchableCrew]

15 minutes ago, derp said:

Rondale Moore > Terrace Marshall >>> Elijah Moore.

I don’t think the early slots make a ton of sense with how little they’ll be 3 wide but Rondale Moore can have a role in run action and he’s crazy explosive. I’m a huge fan. Terrace Marshall may fit what they’re doing better.

I think a later slot guy (Darden) is more likely based on roster construction (Davis and Mims are under contract for three years) and again just not having that slot role on the field that often.

This is a fair point -- only two teams in the NFL used 11 personnel less than the 9ers last year. Marshall definitely seems to match what they like on the outside but I'm intrigued by Moore because he feels like he might even be able to play a hybrid role in 21 personnel which the 9ers ran 2nd most in the league last year.

Either that or maybe we draft a FB.

[UntouchableCrew]

Double post

[IntoTheGreen]

I went with Marshall. He has the size to be a #1, but he might be repetitve with what he already have (Mims/Davis). I like Rondale Moore a ton, but his size also scares me for that early of a selection. This offense needs to some explosion though and he fits for jet sweeps.

[derp]

18 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

This is a fair point -- only two teams in the NFL used 11 personnel less than the 9ers last year. Marshall definitely seems to match what they like on the outside but I'm intrigued by Moore because he feels like he might even be able to play a hybrid role in 21 personnel which the 9ers ran 2nd most in the league last year.

Either that or maybe we draft a FB.

If you’re talking Rondale I totally agree. I think Marshall is kind of an indictment of Mims and it’s too early for that. Moore you find ways to get on the field and get touches when you’re in 11, even 21 like you said and just bumping one of those guys off the field. Little different than the other two guys. Run action too. 

[Morrissey]

None of them, but if you're forcing me to take a WR at 34.... take TMJr

[PepPep]

On 4/7/2021 at 4:00 PM, UntouchableCrew said:

This is a fair point -- only two teams in the NFL used 11 personnel less than the 9ers last year. Marshall definitely seems to match what they like on the outside but I'm intrigued by Moore because he feels like he might even be able to play a hybrid role in 21 personnel which the 9ers ran 2nd most in the league last year.

Either that or maybe we draft a FB.

 

On 4/7/2021 at 3:45 PM, derp said:

Rondale Moore > Terrace Marshall >>> Elijah Moore.

I don’t think the early slots make a ton of sense with how little they’ll be 3 wide but Rondale Moore can have a role in run action and he’s crazy explosive. I’m a huge fan. Terrace Marshall may fit what they’re doing better.

I think a later slot guy (Darden) is more likely based on roster construction (Davis and Mims are under contract for three years) and again just not having that slot role on the field that often.

I don't think anyone should assume the Jets will be running the same exact system that the niners ran. Similar, sure. But not nec the same. Either way Moore won't be relegated to the slot and Marshall won;t be relegated to the outside. If JD feels stringly about either prospect he won't pass on him at 34. 

Personally, I think Moore seems to be the more likely pick. He has the features JD looks for- top tier explosiveness, speed and play-maker ability. He should be there at 34 (probably due to some injury history concerns). The Jets interviewed him. And Crowder is a FA next year. 

[derp]

37 minutes ago, PepPep said:

 

I don't think anyone should assume the Jets will be running the same exact system that the niners ran. Similar, sure. But not nec the same. Either way Moore won't be relegated to the slot and Marshall won;t be relegated to the outside. If JD feels stringly about either prospect he won't pass on him at 34. 

Personally, I think Moore seems to be the more likely pick. He has the features JD looks for- top tier explosiveness, speed and play-maker ability. He should be there at 34 (probably due to some injury history concerns). The Jets interviewed him. And Crowder is a FA next year. 

It’s not just the 49ers. The Packers didn’t run three wide a lot either. It’s certainly possible the Jets deviate from that but more 21 and 12 and less 11 this year seems like a good bet.