jetophile Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 At first I thought somebody died and then I read the opening post and was relieved to find out that several people died. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 hours ago, TeddEY said: With the trade of Sam Darnold, a walk down memory lane. Highlighted in green are players who remain with the Jets. Crossed out are players not currently on any active roster. 2015: Pick 1.6 – Leonard Williams, DL, USC Pick 2.37 – Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State Pick 3.82 – Lorenzo Mauldin, EDGE, Louisville Pick 4.103 – Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor Pick 5.152 – Jarvis Harrison, OL, Texas A&M Pick 7.223 – Deon Simon, DL, Northwestern State 2016: Pick 1.20 – Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State Pick 2.51 – Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State Pick 3.83 – Jordan Jenkins, EDGE, Georgia Pick 4.118 – Juston Burris, CB, NC State Pick 5.158 – Brandon Shell, OL, South Carolina Pick 7.235 – Lachlan Edwards, P, Sam Houston State Pick 7.241 – Charone Peake, WR, Clemson 2017: Pick 1.6 – Jamal Adams, S, LSU Pick 2.39 – Marcus Maye, S, Florida Pick 3.79 – ArDarius Stewart, WR, Alabama Pick 4.141 – Chad Hansen, WR, California Pick 5.150 – Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson Pick 5.181 – Dylan Donahue, EDGE, West Georgia Pick 6.188 – Elijah McGuire, RB, Louisiana-Lafayette Pick 6.197 – Jeremy Clark, CB, Michigan Pick 6.204 – Derrick Jones, CB, Ole Miss 2018: Pick 1.3 – Sam Darnold, QB, USC Pick 3.72 – Nathan Shepherd, DL, Fort Hays State Pick 4.107 – Chris Herndon, TE, Miami Pick 6.179 – Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane Pick 6.180 – Folorunso Fatukasi, DL, Connecticut Pick 6.204 – Trenton Cannon, RB, Virginia State 2019: Pick 1.3 – Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama Pick 3.68 – Jachai Polite, OLB, Florida Pick 3.92 – Chuma Edoga, OL, USC Pick 4.121 – Trevon Wesco, TE, West Virginia Pick 5.157 – Blake Cashman, LB, Minnesota Pick 6.195 – Blessuan Austin, CB, Rutgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greengeek Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Kolchak said: If it were empty beer bottles, I'd get the poor choices. If they were empty beer bottles the choices would have probably been better (since they could not have been worse). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: He has 24K tweets to 76 followers. great googly moogly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, fullblast said: That 2017 list is wild Worse than the "Idzik 12" draft when you consider the talent we passed on to take Adams and Maye, and the horrendous selections after those 2 were taken. Fight me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, dbatesman said: Man, talk about in memoriam. What happened to that guy? 4 hours ago, TeddEY said: Max got rid of him when he started a thread comparing the Jets to a "crippled child." Really one of the more vile things I've read on this board. Edited to Add: I don't think I ever have seen, or will ever see again, Max just say, "**** you" to a poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 hours ago, dbatesman said: Man, talk about in memoriam. What happened to that guy? 5 hours ago, TeddEY said: Max got rid of him when he started a thread comparing the Jets to a "crippled child." Really one of the more vile things I've read on this board. Edited to Add: I don't think I ever have seen, or will ever see again, Max just say, "**** you" to a poster. I missed this thread somehow. Just read it for the first time now. These were 5 of the most enjoyable posts I've read in succession maybe ever: On 4/18/2020 at 2:00 AM, Maxman said: This one is terrible. 90 days just for this one. Plus the 60 you were at originally. Also **** you. On 4/18/2020 at 2:00 AM, Maxman said: Actually enjoy your lifetime ban. On 4/18/2020 at 2:02 AM, Maxman said: You have already been banned for the rest of your life. Because of this post you were just banned for another lifetime. On 4/18/2020 at 2:03 AM, Maxman said: 3rd lifetime. On 4/18/2020 at 2:03 AM, Maxman said: IP Ban. And a 4th lifetime. Also all of your family members are now banned. For life. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Worse than the "Idzik 12" draft when you consider the talent we passed on to take Adams and Maye, and the horrendous selections after those 2 were taken. Fight me. The 2014 draft was bad, but the "Idzik 12" is wildly overstated. The 1st 3 rounds only had one pick each, and it wasn't until pick 115 that we started with multiples. Jace Amaro over Davante Adams and Allen Robinson were probably the highlight of that one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Worst GM of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 hours ago, TeddEY said: Max got rid of him when he started a thread comparing the Jets to a "crippled child." Really one of the more vile things I've read on this board. Edited to Add: I don't think I ever have seen, or will ever see again, Max just say, "**** you" to a poster. Wow I forgot about this. And yes I don't recall being mad enough to curse at someone like that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: I missed this thread somehow. Just read it for the first time now. These were 5 of the most enjoyable posts I've read in succession maybe ever: This guy clearly wanted to be banned..just read the thread again at it was truly disgusting what he posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 hours ago, TeddEY said: Max got rid of him when he started a thread comparing the Jets to a "crippled child." Really one of the more vile things I've read on this board. Edited to Add: I don't think I ever have seen, or will ever see again, Max just say, "**** you" to a poster. He said it to me yesterday. Twice. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 The Devin Smith pick still upsets me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: He said it to me yesterday. Twice. Mod Lounge After Dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Mod Lounge After Dark He likes the lights on, but then closes his eyes tightly shut. Explain that s**t to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Maxman said: Wow I forgot about this. And yes I don't recall being mad enough to curse at someone like that before. OH WORD? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: OH WORD? I meant in public, on the board. Our old conversations would make for a great 30 for 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Do one for some of the other teams nowSent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Worse than the "Idzik 12" draft when you consider the talent we passed on to take Adams and Maye, and the horrendous selections after those 2 were taken. Fight me. 10 hours ago, TeddEY said: The 2014 draft was bad, but the "Idzik 12" is wildly overstated. The 1st 3 rounds only had one pick each, and it wasn't until pick 115 that we started with multiples. Jace Amaro over Davante Adams and Allen Robinson were probably the highlight of that one. Macc may have been worse than Idzik by a small measure, thanks mostly to inexplicably more opportunities given, but let's not pretend like the latter was anything but laughably horrific at his job as well. After all, the picks of Pryor and Amaro make the likes of Adams and Herndon slightly less incompetent by comparison. Even the WR duo of Saunders and Evans were somehow more useless than Stewart and Hansen, which is an extremely difficult task to accomplish. Idzik was also ridiculed because, with those 12 picks, he had the theoretical concept of flexibility at his disposal, but was incapable of making one single move throughout the draft, before going 0 for 12. The only thing of note to come out of that 2014 class is he took the guy who cold-cocked Geno Smith. In the end, both were just historically awful as GMs, and with classes that would've been no worse if randomly picking names out of a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Macc may have been worse than Idzik by a small measure, thanks mostly to inexplicably more opportunities given, but let's not pretend like the latter was anything but laughably horrific at his job as well. After all, the picks of Pryor and Amaro make the likes of Adams and Herndon slightly less incompetent by comparison. Even the WR duo of Saunders and Evans were somehow more useless than Stewart and Hansen, which is an extremely difficult task to accomplish. Idzik was also ridiculed because, with those 12 picks, he had the theoretical concept of flexibility at his disposal, but was incapable of making one single move throughout the draft, before going 0 for 12. The only thing of note to come out of that 2014 class is he took the guy who cold-cocked Geno Smith. In the end, both were just historically awful as GMs, and with classes that would've been no worse if randomly picking names out of a hat. No doubt Idzik was bad, but I don't see them as comparable. Idzik was a bad GM. Macc was a league worst (verifiable by most players out of the league) GM. Macc also had multiple top 10 picks. It's not hard to find players when you take the top guy on Kiper's big board in round one, when you're picking that high AND he still managed to **** that up. Idzik also handed out no bad free agent contracts, vs Macc, who handed out many. There's no Trumaine's, Leveon's, or CJ's on Idzik's resume. Ultimately, Idzik had a plan. One that he could not execute because he failed in the draft, but there was a clear and obviously plan. Macc had no plan whatsoever - none - and he got to do it for much longer, causing far more harm. Sure, it's splitting hairs between which terrible was worse, but I really don't see it as close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 straight drafts and only Maye left and he’s my least favorite pick of them all because he’s not Dalvin Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Obrien2Toon said: 3 straight drafts and only Maye left and he’s my least favorite pick of them all because he’s not Dalvin Cook And Maye will be gone next year. It's clear we're not giving him a big extension (I'm not sure we should), but he's going to play out the tag and be let go, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bleedin Green said: Macc may have been worse than Idzik by a small measure, thanks mostly to inexplicably more opportunities given, but let's not pretend like the latter was anything but laughably horrific at his job as well. After all, the picks of Pryor and Amaro make the likes of Adams and Herndon slightly less incompetent by comparison. Even the WR duo of Saunders and Evans were somehow more useless than Stewart and Hansen, which is an extremely difficult task to accomplish. Idzik was also ridiculed because, with those 12 picks, he had the theoretical concept of flexibility at his disposal, but was incapable of making one single move throughout the draft, before going 0 for 12. The only thing of note to come out of that 2014 class is he took the guy who cold-cocked Geno Smith. In the end, both were just historically awful as GMs, and with classes that would've been no worse if randomly picking names out of a hat. Idzik sucked. Macc was worse, and had 2 draft classes that were worse than the Idzik 12, was my point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 When the days of Mike Tannenbaum are known as the "good ol' days" you know your franchise is in the sh*tter. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 pretty clear where the change in management occurred no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 What's the color for hamstrings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I thought this thread was going to be about DMX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 hours ago, TeddEY said: No doubt Idzik was bad, but I don't see them as comparable. Idzik was a bad GM. Macc was a league worst (verifiable by most players out of the league) GM. Macc also had multiple top 10 picks. It's not hard to find players when you take the top guy on Kiper's big board in round one, when you're picking that high AND he still managed to **** that up. Idzik also handed out no bad free agent contracts, vs Macc, who handed out many. There's no Trumaine's, Leveon's, or CJ's on Idzik's resume. Ultimately, Idzik had a plan. One that he could not execute because he failed in the draft, but there was a clear and obviously plan. Macc had no plan whatsoever - none - and he got to do it for much longer, causing far more harm. Sure, it's splitting hairs between which terrible was worse, but I really don't see it as close. 5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Idzik sucked. Macc was worse, and had 2 draft classes that were worse than the Idzik 12, was my point. I get what you are both saying, but the best thing Idzik has going for him is that his stretch as "worst GM in team history" was short-lived, although it still did in fact exist. It's simply a matter of in what type of glorious fashion they each miserably failed. The arguments wouldn't be as strong if Macc was similarly fired after 2 years. Idzik's list of failures isn't longer than it already is simply because he wasn't given the opportunity for it to be. Opting not to try in FA when you're laughably awful in the draft hardly qualifies as a plan. Instead he gave limited contracts to players who then wouldn't even bother showing up. Building through the draft is also slightly more problematic when incapable of actually making any trades up or down the draft board, a special incompetence not even Macc has the privilege of being able to claim as his own. The main difference is as idiotic as both Johnsons are, Woody knew enough to pull the trigger on firing Idzik quickly, while Chris's indisputably dumber ass doubled down on Macc, letting us enjoy his ineptitude for far longer, and therefore more time for the hate to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Peace Frog said: I thought this thread was going to be about DMX. I'm totally ok with @TeddEY being blamed for what happened as a direct result of this heathen thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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