Irish Jet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, choon328 said: I think Davis will start at MLB and Moseley will get traded during or post draft for a 7th round conditional pick. He really doesn't fit the system as an off the ball linebacker and he's been away 2 years. I think the Jets will cut their losses and move on at this point since JD didn't sign him. It would free up an additional $1.5 million this year and $13 million in 2022. No one's taking on that contract for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Jethead said: Disagree. Moseley fits just fine. He's an all-pro linebacker, arguably our most accomplished defensive player. No reason to assume he is anything but eager to come back, under 30, never missed a snap until his flukey injury. Jets would be crazy to dump him in a fit of mean spiritedness. If he sucks and can't play anymore that's different, but we won't know that from training camp. Could be like adding another first rounder to our defense. It has nothing to do with "mean spiritedness". He's coming off a serious injury to his groin and has been away 2 years. He's never played in this style of defense and was never the quickest guy at his position to begin with. Plus, the Jets have been trying to shed older, he'll be 29, expensive veterans since JD got here. There is a difference of $8 million in savings if they trade him now or wait to cut him after the season. It's a huge financial risk that I don't think JD is going to take on a guy who has been away 2 years and coming off a serious injury. It's not personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: It has nothing to do with "mean spiritedness". He's coming off a serious injury to his groin and has been away 2 years. He's never played in this style of defense and was never the quickest guy at his position to begin with. Plus, the Jets have been trying to shed older, he'll be 29, expensive veterans since JD got here. There is a difference of $8 million in savings if they trade him now or wait to cut him after the season. It's a huge financial risk that I don't think JD is going to take on a guy who has been away 2 years and coming off a serious injury. It's not personal. If JD wont take the financial risk then who will? He's staying because he's untradeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: No one's taking on that contract for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. He's got 2 years left with any guaranteed money. $6 million cap hit if traded in 2021 and only $8 million guaranteed next year. He can be cut after that with no dead money. The Rams, Packers, Giants and Broncos all still need an ILB. As long as his medical check out I can see him being traded. There's not a ton of financial risk for the team trading for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: If JD wont take the financial risk then who will? He's staying because he's untradeable. Teams that are ready to win and can take a financial risk on a veteran player. The Jets are not near ready to win and the risk for them financially makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 10:53 AM, KRL said: Good schematic article. I'm sure Saleh/Ulbrich will have wrinkles, but based on the player responsibilities the CB's won't be as "stressed" as in a man to man defense. Therefore we may not be looking for a CB that early: http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/glossary-football-101/2015/12/09/itp-glossary-cover-3/#:~:text=Cover 3 is a zone,or dime- backs) underneath. This is why I've had my eye on guys like Trill Williams, Paulson Adebo, Benjamin St. Juste rather then the top tier guys. This is great news for us as we should be able to draft o-line with our higher picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 10:53 AM, KRL said: Good schematic article. I'm sure Saleh/Ulbrich will have wrinkles, but based on the player responsibilities the CB's won't be as "stressed" as in a man to man defense. Therefore we may not be looking for a CB that early: http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/glossary-football-101/2015/12/09/itp-glossary-cover-3/#:~:text=Cover 3 is a zone,or dime- backs) underneath. I agree. Also it seems most use the SS to come down for extra run support if needed. I dont see anyone on the roster who could really do that the way Chancelor and Neal did. Also OLB seems to be a weakness. I could see a tweener SS/OLB or two picked this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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