Pointdexter Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Who has a better year in 2022: Zach Wilson with the Jets in LaFleur's offense Or Sam Darnold with the Panthers in Joe Brady's offense *In my opinion if it's a draw then that's a win for the Jets since Wilson is younger and he saves tons of cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Jesus ... so a 4th year QB vs a rookie.Ill say I'd be ecstatic if Zach matches Darnold.I expect him shine .. but would also understand a 4-12 season if he looks good.All my cash ??? Probably go with Darnold this year.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Ill say I'd be ecstatic if Zach matches Darnold. Dunnie, I have some good news for you 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QB1 Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 What life savings? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Whichever way ends up worse for us is my expectation. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Jesus ... so a 4th year QB vs a rookie. Ill say I'd be ecstatic if Zach matches Darnold. I expect him shine .. but would also understand a 4-12 season if he looks good. All my cash ??? Probably go with Darnold this year. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app 2022 I was thinking the same thing that it's an unfair match up in Wilson's rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Sam will look better as he’ll have a better roster but ZW will flash like Darnold never did. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 If the Panthers draft Pitts or Sewell and stay healthy then Sam is in hands down the best situation of any NFL QB. Still Zach. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Are we talking individual performance (like QBR or similar) or overall W-L record? Carolina will be more likely to have a better W-L record next year than the Jets. But how much of that is due to Sam vs. despite Sam will be debated ad nauseum no doubt. McCaffery's health / ability after his injury will be a big factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Who has a better year in 2022: Zach Wilson with the Jets in LaFleur's offense Or Sam Darnold with the Panthers in Joe Brady's offense *In my opinion if it's a draw then that's a win for the Jets since Wilson is younger and he saves tons of cap space. I wouldn’t bet because Zach Wilson is a rookie. The ceiling is higher on Wilson. I would bet a three comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 If we you vote Sam and he earns Come back player of the year honors is it customary to tip Adam Gates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Sam will look better as he’ll have a better roster but ZW will flash like Darnold never did. How quick we forget about all the elite flashes Sam shown making throws only a handful of QBs can make. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 If they are both even money then I would bet everything on Sam because he's more experienced and the situation he finds himself in over a rookie with a rookie head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 This is the main reason why Wilson will fail here, he is ? expected to come in and lift this franchise up, and will be labeled a bust at the first sign of struggle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Pointdexter said: Who has a better year in 2022: Zach Wilson with the Jets in LaFleur's offense Or Sam Darnold with the Panthers in Joe Brady's offense *In my opinion if it's a draw then that's a win for the Jets since Wilson is younger and he saves tons of cap space. I honestly don't care who is better in 2021/2022, I only care which gets their team to a Super Bowl victory. And I don't know who that is..... I don't have the same faith in Wilson being a great sure-thing many posters do, nor am I 100% sure Sam sucks because of Sam (and not because of our mismanagement, poor coaching, poor systems and lack of support/talent). I've long been a Sam doubter/critic, since before he was drafted, but it's hard to ignore how horrible we've been run the past 5 years, including all of Sam's time in NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: This is the main reason why Wilson will fail here, he is ? expected to come in and lift this franchise up, and will be labeled a bust at the first sign of struggle. The expectations people from the media and from fans have put on wilson's are completely unfair. It has got to the stage if he does not turn up day one and Aaron Rodgers he is a failure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, adobolo2 said: The expectations people from the media and from fans have put on wilson's are completely unfair. It has got to the stage if he does not turn up day one and Aaron Rodgers he is a failure. Where are you getting this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: This is the main reason why Wilson will fail here, he is ? expected to come in and lift this franchise up, and will be labeled a bust at the first sign of struggle. Labelled a bust by who? Darnold was the worst QB in the League after his third year, and a large section of the fanbase supported him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I said this the minute we traded Darnold that he was definitely going to have a better year. No doubt the kid needed a fresh start and to move on, but he will definitely be successful. Sam haters will definitely eat crow. I'm a fan of the Jets in general and whoever we get in here albeit Wilson or Fields, I will support them. However if JD pull some ridiculous s*** like flipping pics with Frisco and we get Garoppolo and take Sewell I will not support that! I actually had a nightmare about that last night. I don't like Jimmy G, I don't like any guys with perfect teeth. So that's a big NO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just now, QB1 said: Where are you getting this from? You read and post a lot on here, you have see it, if anyone points out any of wilson's limitations they are torn down and told their options are wrong. We have seen two treads on fields turn to crap in the last few days by people who are over hyping Wilson. Wilson is a great prospect but is far from perfect but that's hard to tell from the way some people talk about him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Only a double-digit would take this bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Pointdexter said: Who has a better year in 2022: Zach Wilson with the Jets in LaFleur's offense Or Sam Darnold with the Panthers in Joe Brady's offense *In my opinion if it's a draw then that's a win for the Jets since Wilson is younger and he saves tons of cap space. Sam will likely be noticeably better with real coaching, an above average OL, stacked WR group, and a star RB if everyone stays healthy. Zach if he is the pick will be coming into a better situation than Darnold ever had on the Jets but there is still a big divide in talent between the Jets and Panthers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, jamesr said: Are we talking individual performance (like QBR or similar) or overall W-L record? Carolina will be more likely to have a better W-L record next year than the Jets. But how much of that is due to Sam vs. despite Sam will be debated ad nauseum no doubt. McCaffery's health / ability after his injury will be a big factor. Wow, this didn't take long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, QB1 said: Where are you getting this from? You seriously need to ask? Q in his rookie season where he sustained a serious injury which he came back very early from was being called a bust because he didn't put up Donald type numbers. What makes you think Zack won't get this same treatment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Carolina will draft either Sewell or Pitts. They have more weapons and better OL. 2021 will be an adjustment period for the Jets with a more prominent future next year and forward. 2021 Darnold 2022 Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Dunnie, I have some good news for you You can save hundreds of dollars on your car insurance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Lupz27 said: How quick we forget about all the elite flashes Sam shown making throws only a handful of QBs can make. I can honestly say I didn't see a whole lot of that. Here and there for sure...but from what I saw, my opinion of course, he looked very pedestrian. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I can honestly say I didn't see a whole lot of that. Here and there for sure...but from what I saw, my opinion of course, he looked very pedestrian. Not to mention, horrible interceptions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I wouldnt watch one second of that scrub Darnold so I wont be able to compare them. Why would anyone want to watch Sam Darnold throw a football again? he is awful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I can honestly say I didn't see a whole lot of that. Here and there for sure...but from what I saw, my opinion of course, he looked very pedestrian. Pedestrian is being generous ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I'm in my 60s. Even at my advanced age, how much worse could I do than Darnold's 2-14? And yes, I assume I will get hit and every known bone in my body will be turned into dust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, FidelioJet said: Sam will look better as he’ll have a better roster but ZW will flash like Darnold never did. And there is the off chance that he'll do better than flash. I'm crossing my fingers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, K_O_Brien said: Labelled a bust by who? Darnold was the worst QB in the League after his third year, and a large section of the fanbase supported him. Darnold was far and away the consensus pick here....Almost no one had any issues with that choice. There are far too many people dug into calling Wilson a bust - for such a highly rated player - for whatever reason fans here decided simply just to not like him. Like it or not, a good portion of the people on this board will be rooting for him to fail...and will attack him at any opportunity they can. It's sad really and I feel bad for the kid. I hope he can learn to turn this stuff off. Sam was given every opportunity to fail by this fan base ZW will get very little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Darnold was far and away the consensus pick here....Almost no one had any issues with that choice. There are far too many people dug into calling Wilson a bust - for such a highly rated player - for whatever reason fans here decided simply just to not like him. Like it or not, a good portion of the people on this board will be rooting for him to fail...and will attack him at any opportunity they can. It's sad really and I feel bad for the kid. I hope he can learn to turn this stuff off. Sam was given every opportunity to fail by this fan base ZW will get very little. And it is the same for Joe Douglas too. If you liked Darnold, and how thats even possible Ill never know, you now hate Joe Douglas and Zach Wilson. It is going to be so painful for these Darnold fans when the jets are one of the top teams in the AFC three years from now. Hopefully, they will just go and be a panthers fan to watch their hero stink there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruce Harper said: And there is the off chance that he'll do better than flash. I'm crossing my fingers. I agree, but I'm still worried about the talent. Again, as of right now - we've added a #2 WR to the offense. That's it. It's the least talented offense in the NFL plus a #2WR - which may very well still be the least talented offense in the NFL I'm just not sure how much we can really expect of him under these circumstances. Hopefully the talent changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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