Popular Post Jetsbb Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/13/22375628/new-york-jets-should-give-byu-quarterback-zach-wilson-a-break-nfl-draft An open letter to the New York Jets: Don’t do it. Don’t draft Zach Wilson. Give the kid a break; pick someone else. The Ohio State quarterback, for instance. Or whoever that guy is from North Dakota State. When the Jets traded away Sam Darnold to the Panthers — thus, ending their latest quarterback fail — the New York Post ran a headline: “The Jets now belong to Zach Wilson.” Thanks for nothing. Former NFL wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who spent two seasons with the Jets, says Ohio State’s Justin Fields should be picked before Wilson. Related NFL draft: Here’s what awaits Zach Wilson if the New York Jets select the BYU quarterback BYU’s Zach Wilson: Inside the making of a future first-round NFL draft pick He’s absolutely right. Let Wilson fall to the 49ers with the third pick. Boy, will they be, ahem, sorry. Look, the Jets are to quarterbacks what Larry King was to marriage. Look at their record. They traded up to get the fifth pick of the 2009 draft and used it to select Mark Sanchez. He lasted four seasons before the team released him. Sanchez was still on the roster when they made Geno Smith the 39th pick of the 2013 draft. He was the starter for all of two seasons and then got kicked to the curb. They drafted Bryce Petty in the fourth round in 2015. He lasted three seasons and played in just 10 games. Done. They made Darnold the third pick of the 2018 draft. He’s gone. QBs drafted by New York Jets since 2006 James Morgan, 4th round, 2020 Sam Darnold, 1st round, 2018 Christian Hackenberg, 2nd round 2016 Bryce Petty, 4th round, 2015 Tajh Boyd, 6th round, 2014 Geno Smith, 2nd round, 2013 Greg McElroy, 7th round, 2011 Mark Sanchez, 1st round, 2009 Erik Ainge, 5th round, 2008 Kellen Clemens, 2nd round, 2006 Brad Smith, 4th round, 2006 The Jets have switched quarterbacks a dozen times the last five seasons. They tried journeymen Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown, who have played for 18 teams between them. They tried Luke Falk (the Logan native), Trevor Siemian and Joe Flacco. In the last 15 years, the Jets have drafted 11 quarterbacks, four in the first two rounds. To quote Rooster Cogburn, “Well, that didn’t pan out.” Meanwhile, the Packers have had two starting quarterbacks in 29 years. The Chiefs, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Seahawks, Giants and Steelers, among other teams, also have had stability at the position. It might surprise you to know that the Jets have had one winning season in the last decade. Who thought it was that many? Do you realize that the Jets’ all-time leader in starts is still Joe Namath? Namath is the single-most overrated football player in history (look at his stats, just for fun), and he’s still the most successful player they’ve had at the position. That’s more than a half-century ago. Related Why NFL scouts, social media raved about Zach Wilson’s pro day throw ‘All about family’: How those closest to Zach Wilson — Ute fans to the core — influenced his football trajectory and played a hand in landing him at BYU What does Zach Wilson need most to succeed early in his NFL career? So much of a quarterback’s success depends on landing with the right team, even for the very best players. What if Matthew Stafford hadn’t spent the first 12 years of his career with the Detroit Lions? How different would Jim McMahon’s career have been if he hadn’t been saddled with the Bears, who haven’t had a great quarterback since, what, Sid Luckman (look him up, kids). Steve Young got lucky. His career was going nowhere with Tampa Bay. Then Bill Walsh threw him a lifeline and brought him to San Francisco, where he was parked on the sideline for a few seasons. The best thing to happen to Brett Favre was getting traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. In this Tuesday, June 11, 2019, file photo, New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas greets reporters during a practice at the team’s NFL football training facility in Florham Park, N.J. Douglas has a big decision to make heading into the 2021 NFL draft: select many pundits’ darling, Zach Wilson, with the No. 2 overall pick, or look elsewhere. Seth Wenig, Associated Press Players know this, of course. They know what teams are dead ends. John Elway was drafted by the Colts but refused to play for them and forced a trade to Denver. Eli Manning did the same thing when he was drafted by San Diego; he forced a trade to the Giants. Quarterbacks are the most valuable commodity of every team and great effort is made to select the right one, but it remains a crapshoot. As noted by Pro Football Talk, of the 22 quarterbacks drafted in the first round between 2009 and 2016, not one is expected to be playing for his original team this season, if in the league at all. The draftees: Stafford, Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz,and Paxton Lynch. Where will Wilson be in a few years? Much depends on being selected by a team in which quarterbacks thrive. History shows that isn’t the Jets. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 100% correct. Nothing we don't know. Get something to let San Fran move up to draft him and draft Fields. This team isn't ready for this kid, get Fields, dude is built to brawl. 14 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docdhc Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Yes let’s worry about a columnist from the Deseret News. He’s at the pinnacle of his profession for sure. 2 2 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Draft fields 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 This guy thinks Jim McMahon would’ve been better off without the Bears?!? 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morrissey Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Jets will be a joke to everyone coast to coast until and not before we start winning football games. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: The Ohio State quarterback, for instance. Or whoever that guy is from North Dakota State. Ah, Utah. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Crusher said: 100% correct. Nothing we don't know. Get something to let San Fran move up to draft him and draft Fields. This team isn't ready for this kid, get Fields, dude is built to brawl. Jets were so worried about having to draft Fields if Zach failed his physical they were willing to spurn the 49ers and risk not getting anything for Darnold. Douglas said it was a clear top 2 guys and they weren't willing to move Darnold for anyone else. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, slats said: This guy thinks Jim McMahon would’ve been better off without the Bears?!? I had to read that 3 times to make sure I understood what he was saying. Really bad take on that situation. It was quite the opposite. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Jets were so worried about having to draft Fields if Zach failed his physical they were willing to spurn the 49ers and risk not getting anything for Darnold. Douglas said it was a clear top 2 guys and they weren't willing to move Darnold for anyone else. We already know from the article and our history Jets suck at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oatmeal Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: We already know from the article and our history Jets suck at this It’s not like we’ve been drafting Trevor Lawrence’s though. Majority of the QBs we’ve selected were bums 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, The Crusher said: 100% correct. Nothing we don't know. Get something to let San Fran move up to draft him and draft Fields. This team isn't ready for this kid, get Fields, dude is built to brawl. Do you really want to re-live the Marino-O'Brian draft? As Don Schula said, "I didn't draft O'Brian because I didn't need a LB'er" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Icer Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: QBs drafted by New York Jets since 2006 James Morgan, 4th round, 2020 Sam Darnold, 1st round, 2018 Christian Hackenberg, 2nd round 2016 Bryce Petty, 4th round, 2015 Tajh Boyd, 6th round, 2014 Geno Smith, 2nd round, 2013 Greg McElroy, 7th round, 2011 Mark Sanchez, 1st round, 2009 Erik Ainge, 5th round, 2008 Kellen Clemens, 2nd round, 2006 Brad Smith, 4th round, 2006 The goddamn Jets did a number on all of these great QB's, proven by their success literally anywhere else. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 That must’ve been a search engine on steroids you used to find that article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullblast Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Kind of want him out of spite now We’ll ruin your QB and you’ll like it! 2 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/13/22375628/new-york-jets-should-give-byu-quarterback-zach-wilson-a-break-nfl-draft An open letter to the New York Jets: Don’t do it. Don’t draft Zach Wilson. Give the kid a break; pick someone else. The Ohio State quarterback, for instance. Or whoever that guy is from North Dakota State. When the Jets traded away Sam Darnold to the Panthers — thus, ending their latest quarterback fail — the New York Post ran a headline: “The Jets now belong to Zach Wilson.” Thanks for nothing. Former NFL wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who spent two seasons with the Jets, says Ohio State’s Justin Fields should be picked before Wilson. Related NFL draft: Here’s what awaits Zach Wilson if the New York Jets select the BYU quarterback BYU’s Zach Wilson: Inside the making of a future first-round NFL draft pick He’s absolutely right. Let Wilson fall to the 49ers with the third pick. Boy, will they be, ahem, sorry. Look, the Jets are to quarterbacks what Larry King was to marriage. Look at their record. They traded up to get the fifth pick of the 2009 draft and used it to select Mark Sanchez. He lasted four seasons before the team released him. Sanchez was still on the roster when they made Geno Smith the 39th pick of the 2013 draft. He was the starter for all of two seasons and then got kicked to the curb. They drafted Bryce Petty in the fourth round in 2015. He lasted three seasons and played in just 10 games. Done. They made Darnold the third pick of the 2018 draft. He’s gone. QBs drafted by New York Jets since 2006 James Morgan, 4th round, 2020 Sam Darnold, 1st round, 2018 Christian Hackenberg, 2nd round 2016 Bryce Petty, 4th round, 2015 Tajh Boyd, 6th round, 2014 Geno Smith, 2nd round, 2013 Greg McElroy, 7th round, 2011 Mark Sanchez, 1st round, 2009 Erik Ainge, 5th round, 2008 Kellen Clemens, 2nd round, 2006 Brad Smith, 4th round, 2006 The Jets have switched quarterbacks a dozen times the last five seasons. They tried journeymen Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown, who have played for 18 teams between them. They tried Luke Falk (the Logan native), Trevor Siemian and Joe Flacco. In the last 15 years, the Jets have drafted 11 quarterbacks, four in the first two rounds. To quote Rooster Cogburn, “Well, that didn’t pan out.” Meanwhile, the Packers have had two starting quarterbacks in 29 years. The Chiefs, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Seahawks, Giants and Steelers, among other teams, also have had stability at the position. It might surprise you to know that the Jets have had one winning season in the last decade. Who thought it was that many? Do you realize that the Jets’ all-time leader in starts is still Joe Namath? Namath is the single-most overrated football player in history (look at his stats, just for fun), and he’s still the most successful player they’ve had at the position. That’s more than a half-century ago. Related Why NFL scouts, social media raved about Zach Wilson’s pro day throw ‘All about family’: How those closest to Zach Wilson — Ute fans to the core — influenced his football trajectory and played a hand in landing him at BYU What does Zach Wilson need most to succeed early in his NFL career? So much of a quarterback’s success depends on landing with the right team, even for the very best players. What if Matthew Stafford hadn’t spent the first 12 years of his career with the Detroit Lions? How different would Jim McMahon’s career have been if he hadn’t been saddled with the Bears, who haven’t had a great quarterback since, what, Sid Luckman (look him up, kids). Steve Young got lucky. His career was going nowhere with Tampa Bay. Then Bill Walsh threw him a lifeline and brought him to San Francisco, where he was parked on the sideline for a few seasons. The best thing to happen to Brett Favre was getting traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. In this Tuesday, June 11, 2019, file photo, New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas greets reporters during a practice at the team’s NFL football training facility in Florham Park, N.J. Douglas has a big decision to make heading into the 2021 NFL draft: select many pundits’ darling, Zach Wilson, with the No. 2 overall pick, or look elsewhere. Seth Wenig, Associated Press Players know this, of course. They know what teams are dead ends. John Elway was drafted by the Colts but refused to play for them and forced a trade to Denver. Eli Manning did the same thing when he was drafted by San Diego; he forced a trade to the Giants. Quarterbacks are the most valuable commodity of every team and great effort is made to select the right one, but it remains a crapshoot. As noted by Pro Football Talk, of the 22 quarterbacks drafted in the first round between 2009 and 2016, not one is expected to be playing for his original team this season, if in the league at all. The draftees: Stafford, Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz,and Paxton Lynch. Where will Wilson be in a few years? Much depends on being selected by a team in which quarterbacks thrive. History shows that isn’t the Jets. Talking about Larry Kings marriage is hilarious. Especially coming from a state that allows a man to have 8 wives at a time. Most of the time to girls straight out of HS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted April 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2021 Rumor is his dad has connections with the paper and told them to publish this article. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I don’t have a doubt in my mind that this won’t work out. Nothing any of us can do about it though. Gotta hope, but not expect, this time to be different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, docdhc said: Yes let’s worry about a columnist from the Deseret News. He’s at the pinnacle of his profession for sure. Cue the magic underwear jokes again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, JiF said: Rumor is his dad has connections with the paper and told them to publish this article. Rumor has it Ferris Bueller passed out at 31 Flavors last night too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, JiF said: Rumor is his dad has connections with the paper and told them to publish this article. A fathers love holds no bounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, choon328 said: Talking about Larry Kings marriage is hilarious. Especially coming from a state that allows a man to have 8 wives at a time. Most of the time to girls straight out of HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: Do you realize that the Jets’ all-time leader in starts is still Joe Namath? Namath is the single-most overrated football player in history (look at his stats, just for fun), and he’s still the most successful player they’ve had at the position. That’s more than a half-century ago. 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: Players know this, of course. They know what teams are dead ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Do you really want to re-live the Marino-O'Brian draft? As Don Schula said, "I didn't draft O'Brian because I didn't need a LB'er" O'Brien was off the board and a lot smaller than Marino, so this is confusing to me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 They better leave Dimples alone. He's my (second) favorite guy (available at #2) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, docdhc said: Yes let’s worry about a columnist from the Deseret News. He’s at the pinnacle of his profession for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Ah, Utah. Hey, don’t knock a paper that sends their photographer 3/4 of the way across the country to snap a photo of JD for an editorial. Oh, wait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Do you really want to re-live the Marino-O'Brian draft? As Don Schula said, "I didn't draft O'Brian because I didn't need a LB'er" What did this mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted April 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2021 Written like a true coward.. Dont draft Zippy he's too good for you... just not good enough to help you start winning. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The guy actually listed Taj Boyd and Greg McElroy as QB's the Jets failed with. I'm not even mentioning the obvious like Geno and Hackenberg. At one point I was thinking this was a satire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, freestater said: They better leave Dimples alone. He's my (second) favorite guy (available at #2) Hearts will be broken... Half the fan base is dreaming of this cutie-pie baby faced gun slinger to be flinging the rock for our NYJ... Download video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The more dumb stuff I read from mickey mouse newspapers and annoying fathers, the more I want to draft Zach out of spite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Hearts will be broken... Half the fan base is dreaming of this cutie-pie baby faced gun slinger to be flinging the rock for our NYJ... Download video I'm smitten. I've sworn to Zach, that I shall make the ultimate sacrifice. I will never get his jersey. I must never curse that poor kid with a jersey purchase. Sanchez, Darnold, Enunwa...they have all suffered my misplaced wrath. I will never burden the young golden boi so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, freestater said: I'm smitten. I've sworn to Zach, that I shall make the ultimate sacrifice. I will never get his jersey. I must never curse that poor kid with a jersey purchase. Sanchez, Darnold, Enunwa...they have all suffered my misplaced wrath. I will never burden the young golden boi so. Buy this guy's jersey instead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Buy this guy's jersey instead... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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