SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Who reads that rag anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 How provocative. I’m upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Of all the QBs that the author of that article mentions, which one left the Jets and went to fame and glory? Maybe the Jets only sin is picking terrible QBs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The 49ers are behind this because they want Zach Wilson to fall to them. They're doing everything that can to get Zach Wilson from us! Don't fall for it Joe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The sad thing about articles like this is that our fanbase buys into it. The Jets have not "developed" a franchise QB since Namath, so they shouldn't even try (or even be allowed to try). It's sickening. F*ck that. Take the best player you can and try to build a strong team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Who reads that rag anyway ? The birds looking down from their perch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/13/22375628/new-york-jets-should-give-byu-quarterback-zach-wilson-a-break-nfl-draft An open letter to the New York Jets: Don’t do it. Don’t draft Zach Wilson. Give the kid a break; pick someone else. The Ohio State quarterback, for instance. Or whoever that guy is from North Dakota State. When the Jets traded away Sam Darnold to the Panthers — thus, ending their latest quarterback fail — the New York Post ran a headline: “The Jets now belong to Zach Wilson.” Thanks for nothing. Former NFL wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who spent two seasons with the Jets, says Ohio State’s Justin Fields should be picked before Wilson. Related NFL draft: Here’s what awaits Zach Wilson if the New York Jets select the BYU quarterback BYU’s Zach Wilson: Inside the making of a future first-round NFL draft pick He’s absolutely right. Let Wilson fall to the 49ers with the third pick. Boy, will they be, ahem, sorry. Look, the Jets are to quarterbacks what Larry King was to marriage. Look at their record. They traded up to get the fifth pick of the 2009 draft and used it to select Mark Sanchez. He lasted four seasons before the team released him. Sanchez was still on the roster when they made Geno Smith the 39th pick of the 2013 draft. He was the starter for all of two seasons and then got kicked to the curb. They drafted Bryce Petty in the fourth round in 2015. He lasted three seasons and played in just 10 games. Done. They made Darnold the third pick of the 2018 draft. He’s gone. QBs drafted by New York Jets since 2006 James Morgan, 4th round, 2020 Sam Darnold, 1st round, 2018 Christian Hackenberg, 2nd round 2016 Bryce Petty, 4th round, 2015 Tajh Boyd, 6th round, 2014 Geno Smith, 2nd round, 2013 Greg McElroy, 7th round, 2011 Mark Sanchez, 1st round, 2009 Erik Ainge, 5th round, 2008 Kellen Clemens, 2nd round, 2006 Brad Smith, 4th round, 2006 The Jets have switched quarterbacks a dozen times the last five seasons. They tried journeymen Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown, who have played for 18 teams between them. They tried Luke Falk (the Logan native), Trevor Siemian and Joe Flacco. In the last 15 years, the Jets have drafted 11 quarterbacks, four in the first two rounds. To quote Rooster Cogburn, “Well, that didn’t pan out.” Meanwhile, the Packers have had two starting quarterbacks in 29 years. The Chiefs, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Seahawks, Giants and Steelers, among other teams, also have had stability at the position. It might surprise you to know that the Jets have had one winning season in the last decade. Who thought it was that many? Do you realize that the Jets’ all-time leader in starts is still Joe Namath? Namath is the single-most overrated football player in history (look at his stats, just for fun), and he’s still the most successful player they’ve had at the position. That’s more than a half-century ago. Related Why NFL scouts, social media raved about Zach Wilson’s pro day throw ‘All about family’: How those closest to Zach Wilson — Ute fans to the core — influenced his football trajectory and played a hand in landing him at BYU What does Zach Wilson need most to succeed early in his NFL career? So much of a quarterback’s success depends on landing with the right team, even for the very best players. What if Matthew Stafford hadn’t spent the first 12 years of his career with the Detroit Lions? How different would Jim McMahon’s career have been if he hadn’t been saddled with the Bears, who haven’t had a great quarterback since, what, Sid Luckman (look him up, kids). Steve Young got lucky. His career was going nowhere with Tampa Bay. Then Bill Walsh threw him a lifeline and brought him to San Francisco, where he was parked on the sideline for a few seasons. The best thing to happen to Brett Favre was getting traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. In this Tuesday, June 11, 2019, file photo, New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas greets reporters during a practice at the team’s NFL football training facility in Florham Park, N.J. Douglas has a big decision to make heading into the 2021 NFL draft: select many pundits’ darling, Zach Wilson, with the No. 2 overall pick, or look elsewhere. Seth Wenig, Associated Press Players know this, of course. They know what teams are dead ends. John Elway was drafted by the Colts but refused to play for them and forced a trade to Denver. Eli Manning did the same thing when he was drafted by San Diego; he forced a trade to the Giants. Quarterbacks are the most valuable commodity of every team and great effort is made to select the right one, but it remains a crapshoot. As noted by Pro Football Talk, of the 22 quarterbacks drafted in the first round between 2009 and 2016, not one is expected to be playing for his original team this season, if in the league at all. The draftees: Stafford, Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz,and Paxton Lynch. Where will Wilson be in a few years? Much depends on being selected by a team in which quarterbacks thrive. History shows that isn’t the Jets.Dear Deseret News: F off. New management. 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Ghost Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I already bought my ******* Wilson jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, pointman said: The more dumb stuff I read from mickey mouse newspapers and annoying fathers, the more I want to draft Zach out of spite. Here's the mickey mouse Desert News fan base... Download video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I am hoping for the same outcome as Wilson’s local paper but for very different reasons. I am more concerned about sparing the Jets the potential embarrassment of drafting Wilson than vice versa. I posted this article on SBNation about the draft, Wilson, Fields, Trubisky and the ‘17 draft, and more. Please check it out if you are interested and share with fellow Jet fans. If not, no worries. It’s all good. https://www.ganggreennation.com/2021/4/13/22378730/hype-and-slander-narratives-and-labels-the-media-driven-in-anity-of Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Rural simp writes article 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 If you were Wilson and his team, you'd obviously prefer to go to the Niners if given a choice because their missing piece is a good QB. It's also much closer to home. Luckily for us, all signs indicate that Wilson is willing to go to whoever drafts him and already appears to accept that it will be the Jets. His last BYU interview seems to acknowledge that. Now where's the open letter to the Jags regarding Lawrence? For them to draft Wilson instead?? The top 2 QB's are "screwed"!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 We have no roster. If I was Wilson’s hometown I’d be scared of us drafting him too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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New York Mick Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 He’s not wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Bring on the Zach Attack! New QB, new coaches, some new draft picks, fresh start ... better days ahead! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Jetsbb said: https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/13/22375628/new-york-jets-should-give-byu-quarterback-zach-wilson-a-break-nfl-draft An open letter to the New York Jets: Don’t do it. Don’t draft Zach Wilson. Give the kid a break; pick someone else. The Ohio State quarterback, for instance. Or whoever that guy is from North Dakota State. When the Jets traded away Sam Darnold to the Panthers — thus, ending their latest quarterback fail — the New York Post ran a headline: “The Jets now belong to Zach Wilson.” Thanks for nothing. Former NFL wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who spent two seasons with the Jets, says Ohio State’s Justin Fields should be picked before Wilson. Related NFL draft: Here’s what awaits Zach Wilson if the New York Jets select the BYU quarterback BYU’s Zach Wilson: Inside the making of a future first-round NFL draft pick He’s absolutely right. Let Wilson fall to the 49ers with the third pick. Boy, will they be, ahem, sorry. Look, the Jets are to quarterbacks what Larry King was to marriage. Look at their record. They traded up to get the fifth pick of the 2009 draft and used it to select Mark Sanchez. He lasted four seasons before the team released him. Sanchez was still on the roster when they made Geno Smith the 39th pick of the 2013 draft. He was the starter for all of two seasons and then got kicked to the curb. They drafted Bryce Petty in the fourth round in 2015. He lasted three seasons and played in just 10 games. Done. They made Darnold the third pick of the 2018 draft. He’s gone. QBs drafted by New York Jets since 2006 James Morgan, 4th round, 2020 Sam Darnold, 1st round, 2018 Christian Hackenberg, 2nd round 2016 Bryce Petty, 4th round, 2015 Tajh Boyd, 6th round, 2014 Geno Smith, 2nd round, 2013 Greg McElroy, 7th round, 2011 Mark Sanchez, 1st round, 2009 Erik Ainge, 5th round, 2008 Kellen Clemens, 2nd round, 2006 Brad Smith, 4th round, 2006 The Jets have switched quarterbacks a dozen times the last five seasons. They tried journeymen Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown, who have played for 18 teams between them. They tried Luke Falk (the Logan native), Trevor Siemian and Joe Flacco. In the last 15 years, the Jets have drafted 11 quarterbacks, four in the first two rounds. To quote Rooster Cogburn, “Well, that didn’t pan out.” Meanwhile, the Packers have had two starting quarterbacks in 29 years. The Chiefs, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Seahawks, Giants and Steelers, among other teams, also have had stability at the position. It might surprise you to know that the Jets have had one winning season in the last decade. Who thought it was that many? Do you realize that the Jets’ all-time leader in starts is still Joe Namath? Namath is the single-most overrated football player in history (look at his stats, just for fun), and he’s still the most successful player they’ve had at the position. That’s more than a half-century ago. Related Why NFL scouts, social media raved about Zach Wilson’s pro day throw ‘All about family’: How those closest to Zach Wilson — Ute fans to the core — influenced his football trajectory and played a hand in landing him at BYU What does Zach Wilson need most to succeed early in his NFL career? So much of a quarterback’s success depends on landing with the right team, even for the very best players. What if Matthew Stafford hadn’t spent the first 12 years of his career with the Detroit Lions? How different would Jim McMahon’s career have been if he hadn’t been saddled with the Bears, who haven’t had a great quarterback since, what, Sid Luckman (look him up, kids). Steve Young got lucky. His career was going nowhere with Tampa Bay. Then Bill Walsh threw him a lifeline and brought him to San Francisco, where he was parked on the sideline for a few seasons. The best thing to happen to Brett Favre was getting traded from Atlanta to Green Bay. In this Tuesday, June 11, 2019, file photo, New York Jets general manager Joe Douglas greets reporters during a practice at the team’s NFL football training facility in Florham Park, N.J. Douglas has a big decision to make heading into the 2021 NFL draft: select many pundits’ darling, Zach Wilson, with the No. 2 overall pick, or look elsewhere. Seth Wenig, Associated Press Players know this, of course. They know what teams are dead ends. John Elway was drafted by the Colts but refused to play for them and forced a trade to Denver. Eli Manning did the same thing when he was drafted by San Diego; he forced a trade to the Giants. Quarterbacks are the most valuable commodity of every team and great effort is made to select the right one, but it remains a crapshoot. As noted by Pro Football Talk, of the 22 quarterbacks drafted in the first round between 2009 and 2016, not one is expected to be playing for his original team this season, if in the league at all. The draftees: Stafford, Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz,and Paxton Lynch. Where will Wilson be in a few years? Much depends on being selected by a team in which quarterbacks thrive. History shows that isn’t the Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: Ah, Utah. The great state of Utah. Where spilling salt is illegal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Philc1 said: We have no roster. If I was Wilson’s hometown I’d be scared of us drafting him too Screw ‘em. Maybe 49ers were smiling when they traded down to 3 because they have already finagled a deal with Wilson’s family to refuse Twinkie playing for the Jets. FINE. Trade Twinkie to the 49’ers for #3 and Bosa. If they refuse, eff em. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Zach in the draft room right after the Jets take him with the #2 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetluv58 said: Bring on the Zach Attack! New QB, new coaches, some new draft picks, fresh start ... better days ahead! Rinse and repeat. They’ve been doing this for 50 years. I’d rather them draft Justin Fields. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Jetsbb said: Jets were so worried about having to draft Fields if Zach failed his physical they were willing to spurn the 49ers and risk not getting anything for Darnold. Douglas said it was a clear top 2 guys and they weren't willing to move Darnold for anyone else. This is apparently the great mystery of this draft. Why would the 49ers like Fields and the Jets not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Rinse and repeat. They’ve been doing this for 50 years. I’d rather them draft Justin Fields. In 2017 the consensus was that Trubisky was better than Mahomes and Watson. The debate was whether the Jets should take him at 6. I think in today’s NFL QB size and athleticism will catch up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 100% correct. Nothing we don't know. Get something to let San Fran move up to draft him and draft Fields. This team isn't ready for this kid, get Fields, dude is built to brawl. Built to brawl ... and win less than Zach.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, flgreen said: Do you really want to re-live the Marino-O'Brian draft? As Don Schula said, "I didn't draft O'Brian because I didn't need a LB'er" He actually said that about Richard Todd a few days before the “Mud Bowl.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Built to brawl ... and win less than Zach. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Fields probably beat more NFL level players in the Clemson game than Zach has this entire year at BYU. He literally got illegally speared, injured then put in a performance for the ages. Next week he came back got whooped by Alabama banged up and tattered still played his heart out. I find that durability and ability to rise up when hurt way more valuable than Zack Wilson’s ability throw a pretty ball with no pressure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Wonderboy said: Screw ‘em. Maybe 49ers were smiling when they traded down to 3 because they have already finagled a deal with Wilson’s family to refuse Twinkie playing for the Jets. FINE. Trade Twinkie to the 49’ers for #3 and Bosa. If they refuse, eff em. That is my opinion. Zach doesn’t want to play for the Jets and he won’t come out and say it publicly. I am supportive of whoever we draft. There just seems that there is too much Wilson hype and all this Steve Young BS. It just seems to me he is going to the Niners, even in one of Wilson’s interview he said you never know what can happen when he was talking about the Jets and Niners, but what the hell do I know, just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The way this guy feels about the Jets is the way everybody feels about Utah. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 hours ago, T0mShane said: Ah, Utah. The prettiest state in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Greensleeves said: O'Brien was off the board and a lot smaller than Marino, so this is confusing to me. I think that poster was confused. If I recall, Shula thought Richard Todd would have been a good LBer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 san darnold will be a top ten qb for the panthers-there should be no fields no wilson discussions-they are no better than Sam was coming out of college. joe made a mistake lying to him about getting him weapons then saddling him with gase and a terrible roster-what QB could do well with a terrible coach no running game, no tight ends and bad wrs the smart move would have been keep sam-trade the pick for a haul then load up on weapons-could have had at least two studs on offense to pair with Sam. I dont want to hear the Joe fan boys cry that you cant judge Joe the next 2-3 years because he has a new coach and a rookie QB. I am happy for Sam he will have a much better chance to succeed in carolina 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 15 hours ago, docdhc said: Yes let’s worry about a columnist from the Deseret News. He’s at the pinnacle of his profession for sure. Is his name Manish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 15 hours ago, The Crusher said: 100% correct. Nothing we don't know. This. Why are we acting outraged when it's true, historically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Warfish said: This. Why are we acting outraged when it's true, historically? Honestly I’m at a lost old friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DJF71 said: The prettiest state in the country. New Jersey? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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