choon328 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: That is not the point. The point is that in many cases many people simply cannot make this choice. Just one more divide between the entitled and the non entitled. The same guys choosing no to prep for a football season will be the first ones grabbing a hammy and being out for a month because they are not actually ready to play real games. It's voluntary workouts, not training camp 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 My God so much outrage here. These are voluntary workouts and they will still play the season. These guys put their brains and body on the line when it counts so I would cut them some slack. How many of us would go to work voluntarily for weeks at a time without any additional pay for it? I thought we have freedom of choice in this country or is it only when we make choices everyone else agrees with? 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I think it’s weird how averse to practice and OTAs the players generally are. I’m sympathetic towards them with a lot of the physical demands, but you’re asking these dudes to show up, watch film with your teammates, and go half-speed through some plays. On the other hand, it’s rare that you hear about guys showing up to camp out of shape anymore. It seems like that used to be more of a thing, where dudes were fat and puking the first week of practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 All rookie staff with a rookie QB too? lol NY JETS BABY!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 This thread is funny, but not so much in a "ha-ha" kind of way, but more in a "this month old deli ham tastes funny" kind of way. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, slats said: "Many of us will... " We'll see what that looks like. I can't imagine too many players fighting for a starting job or roster spot might be sitting out, on the other hand Maye & Mosley are like we'll see you when we have to. Be interesting to see what a guy like Becton does. Maye technically isn’t under contract, is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, David Harris said: Yet the Dunkin donut lady has been working nonstop since this started. Agreed 100%, we should organize Dunkin Donuts employees until they also have a union powerful enough to tell their employer to go **** itself 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Oh ffs....everyone else gotta go get vaccinated. Wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, JiF said: All rookie staff with a rookie QB too? lol NY JETS BABY!!!!!!!!! What could go wrong!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, SAR I said: “Robert Saleh is a culture changer.” SAR I *diaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, docdhc said: My God so much outrage here. These are voluntary workouts and they will still play the season. These guys put their brains and body on the line when it counts so I would cut them some slack. How many of us would go to work voluntarily for weeks at a time without any additional pay for it? I thought we have freedom of choice in this country or is it only when we make choices everyone else agrees with? Then don’t go and be a man about it. Don’t leverage this horrible thing that just happened to the world because you don’t want to go to OTA’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Where’s the “culture change” I was reading about... did we hit the gas before the break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Well. I am sure they will add more preseason practices and another game, to ensure the on field product doesn't suffer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 55 minutes ago, docdhc said: My God so much outrage here. These are voluntary workouts and they will still play the season. These guys put their brains and body on the line when it counts so I would cut them some slack. How many of us would go to work voluntarily for weeks at a time without any additional pay for it? I thought we have freedom of choice in this country or is it only when we make choices everyone else agrees with? What sports have told us recently is these guys were mostly born were insane gifts and at the end of the day will take advantage of mailing it in when they can like the rest of us. I get it, but it is what it is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, choon328 said: There is like 12 teams that have announced this. This has nothing to do with "culture", it's a union driven decision. that's too easy. aren't the players the union? sounds like they better get some new leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JTJet said: Good lord. I wish I could just "opt out" of things I dont want to do at work and still get paid. "Boss I think I'm going to....opt out....of this project the company is working on at the moment, but hey, see ya on payday and thanks for the free donuts this morning" Silly world we live in. Is the project voluntary? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, David Harris said: Yet the Dunkin donut lady has been working nonstop since this started. All grandparents and immunocompromised have been vaccinated by now, smh at these lazy entitled snowflakes The Dunkin' Donut lady should have bargaining power as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, johnnysd said: fuuckking veterans want nothing more than to screw over the young players...agents need to tell their rookie contract guys to attend. The people that hold power in the NFLPA represent the smallest portion of their members. Bunch of young players on the bubble, trying to learn a new offense or a new defense. If i was them, I would want every possible chance to show my coach what I can do. Especially with less preseason games. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Isn’t this what happened last year everywhere? Just virtual off season to start. There’s been players in and out of the building already, working out. This whole “stance” is pretty stupid. It’s much of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: C.J. Mosley approves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, docdhc said: My God so much outrage here. These are voluntary workouts and they will still play the season. These guys put their brains and body on the line when it counts so I would cut them some slack. How many of us would go to work voluntarily for weeks at a time without any additional pay for it? I thought we have freedom of choice in this country or is it only when we make choices everyone else agrees with? If you paid me $3M to go to a few light practices and I was in the lowest risk group and had access to a vaccine with a 100% success rate against severe sickness and death, yeah, they should get their asses to work. And they don't "put their bodies on the line" for nothing; they are paid very handsomely for this. They know the physical risks of the sport. They accept them. Not because of dedication to fans. Because they're greedy. SAR I 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Is the project voluntary? Yes. Nothing like meeting the bare minimum. There are those that go above and beyond and there are those that only wear their 13 pieces of flare. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 You know who wouldn't put up with this? Joe Judge, that's who. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: That is not the point. The point is that in many cases many people simply cannot make this choice. Just one more divide between the entitled and the non entitled. The same guys choosing no to prep for a football season will be the first ones grabbing a hammy and being out for a month because they are not actually ready to play real games. That's what happened last season with Mims. He claimed that he couldn't find a place to workout and then immediately pulled a hamstring after he had to report. How can this guy not workout at his house? He didn't need any special equipment to stretch his hamstrings. Just lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, choon328 said: It's voluntary workouts, not training camp Yes, no problemo. Save the holy declaration printed on a tablet from the mount and just don't show up. If you literally do not have to give any reason at all to not show up don't go soft peddling the thing. it is insulting. Don't show up and shut up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, JTJet said: Yes. Nothing like meeting the bare minimum. There are those that go above and beyond and there are those that only wear their 13 pieces of flare. And these are the folks who get all upset when a promotion is given to the person who worked the hardest, performed the best and went above and beyond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No breaks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Zzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, SAR I said: If you paid me $3M to go to a few light practices and I was in the lowest risk group and had access to a vaccine with a 100% success rate against severe sickness and death, yeah, they should get their asses to work. And they don't "put their bodies on the line" for nothing; they are paid very handsomely for this. They know the physical risks of the sport. They accept them. Not because of dedication to fans. Because they're greedy. SAR I Yes I’m sure you do extra work for free all the time. I’m sure you work because of dedication to others not because of the lifestyle it provides. They get paid handsomely because their work is so interesting that people like you pay to watch them. It’s called generating income. It’s what the market dictates. I guess you don’t support a free market unless it’s making you as rich as you always purport to be. You think they don’t work hard enough for the pay they make? Don’t support them by buying season tickets. Don’t watch movies or listen to music either. Those people make a lot of money too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, docdhc said: Yes I’m sure you do extra work for free all the time. I’m sure you work because of dedication to others not because of the lifestyle it provides. They get paid handsomely because their work is so interesting that people like you pay to watch them. It’s called generating income. It’s what the market dictates. I guess you don’t support a free market unless it’s making you as rich as you always purport to be. You think they don’t work hard enough for the pay they make? Don’t support them by buying season tickets. Don’t watch movies or listen to music either. Those people make a lot of money too. That's fine and all but this notion that pro athletes have gotten where they are because they work hard should go to bed now. These guys are lazy af. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matt39 said: That's fine and all but this notion that pro athletes have gotten where they are because they work hard should go to bed now. These guys are lazy af. That’s kind of a broad brush. Some work really hard, some probably skate by on talent. Not unlike many other lines of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, docdhc said: That’s kind of a broad brush. Some work really hard, some probably skate by on talent. Not unlike many other lines of work. What constitutes working hard? Staying in shape? Firemen stay in shape too. The professional athlete at this point is playing with fire. Fans wont be around forever if the player resentment continues to grow. Legit baffling these guys think this is a good look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, freestater said: You know who wouldn't put up with this? Joe Judge, that's who. Chuck Norris posts Joe Judge memes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted April 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: What constitutes working hard? Staying in shape? Firemen stay in shape too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: What constitutes working hard? Staying in shape? Firemen stay in shape too. The professional athlete at this point is playing with fire. Fans wont be around forever if the player resentment continues to grow. Legit baffling these guys think this is a good look. Firefighting is a noble profession. They don’t get rich while risking their lives to help others so they should be respected and admired. Athletes may be mercenaries and don’t deserve the same respect. I just think they deserve the pay they get because people want to watch so they generate lots of revenue. If as you say, fans get disgusted with them and stop watching their pay will go away. I think, though, that the entertainment they provide will keep the fans coming back and the money coming in, even if they resent how the players behave. Either way I’m ok with letting the market dictate the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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