Brian Costello Debases Himself

[Bugg]

https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/nfl-draft-analysis-ranking-teams-five-year-history/

So the Post asks him aas part of predraft to rank all 32 teams over the last 5 drafts. Also, the best pick of each team in that time frame.

He says the best pick of the Jets is ...Jamal Adams. Apparently opportunity cost is not something Costello understands. We can talk in Jets'history about Ken O'Brien, Darren Lee, Dee Milliner, Vernon Gholston...some much crap and msitakes. 

But make no mistake-THE PICK OF JAMAL ADAMS OVER EITHER OF THE PRIMO QBs STILL ON THE BOARD WAS THE SINGLE WORST DECISION IN FRANCHISE HISTORY BAR F___IN' NONE. 

It was that day, it is now, it will be so FOREVER. 

 

 

[JETSY14]

QB??? We didn't need a QB, we had Josh McCown leading the way

[JohnnyLV]

Agree but probably most would say the same. Adams is insanely overratred

[PS17]

Mike Maccagnan was so bad that the best player he drafted was still an atrocious, franchise-crippling draft pick. 

[Bruce Harper]

We had just drafted Hack.  Set for a decade!

[kevinc855]

I’m sorry besides not liking jamals Twitter feed who was the other best Jets draft pick in the last 5 years? 

[isired]

I guess yiu could say Q Williams or Becton but really there's a pretty small body of work. It's probably Adams and that also says a lot about our last 5 drafts.

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Bruce Harper said:

We had just drafted Hack.  Set for a decade!

I was so pissed when we made that pick.  Mac deserves a random kick to the nuts at Starbucks every time he goes for that pick.

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, Fantasy Island said:

I was so pissed when we made that pick.  Mac deserves a random kick to the nuts at Starbucks every time he goes for that pick.

I think odds are better he frequents Dunkin. 

[Dcat]

We passed on a franchise QB for the most overrated, overblown player this past decade.

[JETSY14]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

We passed on a franchise QB for the most overrated, overblown player this past decade.

If we had a crystal ball we could of had Kittle instead of Hansen also

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

I’m sorry besides not liking jamals Twitter feed who was the other best Jets draft pick in the last 5 years? 

Marcus Maye. He has been franchised and Jamal is still waiting to get paid. 

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, Bugg said:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/nfl-draft-analysis-ranking-teams-five-year-history/

So the Post asks him aas part of predraft to rank all 32 teams over the last 5 drafts. Also, the best pick of each team in that time frame.

He says the best pick of the Jets is ...Jamal Adams. Apparently opportunity cost is not something Costello understands. We can talk in Jets'history about Ken O'Brien, Darren Lee, Dee Milliner, Vernon Gholston...some much crap and msitakes. 

But make no mistake-THE PICK OF JAMAL ADAMS OVER EITHER OF THE PRIMO QBs STILL ON THE BOARD WAS THE SINGLE WORST DECISION IN FRANCHISE HISTORY BAR F___IN' NONE. 

It was that day, it is now, it will be so FOREVER. 

 

 

+1

The only think that kept it from being even worse is that Adams at least maintained trade value. He was a better pick than an even worse non-QB, but that's thin rationalization when you've got two of the game's top QBs on the board, who were both superstars by their second seasons at the latest, which would've further allowed the team to use their 1st rounder + 3 2nd rounders on 4 other positions instead of Darnold.

What makes it even worse is there were only 3 potential QB picks that early, and the Bears were kind enough to take the lone wrong decision out of Maccagnan's hands. He literally could not have screwed that up, other than by not taking one of them in favor of a ****ing box safety. 

Costello is conflating worst individual player chosen with the worst draft pick decision.

 

[Grandy]

Not even taking into account what we passed on to take glorified linebacker this is awful. 

Quinnen and Becton's development and trajectory at key positions makes them better picks even without passing on what we did. Maybe the value we got from trading Jamal counts towards this but I don't know.

[rangerous]

must be a slow day.  for any ny jets beat reporter to even think critically is a stretch.

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

+1

The only think that kept it from being even worse is that Adams at least maintained trade value. He was a better pick than an even worse non-QB, but that's thin rationalization when you've got two of the game's top QBs on the board, who were both superstars by their second seasons at the latest, which would've further allowed the team to use their 1st rounder + 3 2nd rounders on 4 other positions instead of Darnold.

What makes it even worse is there were only 3 potential QB picks that early, and the Bears were kind enough to take the lone wrong decision out of Maccagnan's hands. He literally could not have screwed that up, other than by not taking one of them in favor of a ****ing box safety. 

Costello is conflating worst individual player chosen with the worst draft pick decision.

 

Jamal Adam’s is a Toyota Corolla.

Wins nominal awards for things like reliability. Problem is it’s really only good at one thing. It sucks at the things you really need it to do, and it embarrasses you in public.

Fortunately, you can buy it for $14k and 5 years later sell it for $13k.

The thing is, with a #6 pick we had the budget for a Mercedes.

[munchmemory]

What, no Costello dick pix?    This thread is disappoint.

[jetstream23]

4 hours ago, johnnysd said:

Agree but probably most would say the same. Adams is insanely overratred

He has the occasional flash play but Jets fans saw game in and game out that he couldn't do the key things in the secondary that the team needed, make a difference defending the pass and cause INTs.

The guy is lots of smoke, very little fire, and no interceptions.  And... Costello calls him the Jets best pick.  Sheesh.  Remember, Sheldon Rankins who we just signed to play DLine has just 1 fewer INT than Jamal Adams over the past 4 years.

Jamal is an excellent Strong Safety in the NFL, but he's not a difference maker and he was taken too early especially given what else was available in that Draft.  When you combine the 1st round pick the Jets used on him and the 1st round picks the Seahawks used on him you have a total of THREE 1st round picks used on a Safety who has TWO career Interceptions in FOUR seasons.

His best play was tackling the Patriots mascot during Pro Bowl week.

 

[doitny]

10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

He has the occasional flash play but Jets fans saw game in and game out that he couldn't do the key things in the secondary that the team needed, make a difference defending the pass and cause INTs.

The guy is lots of smoke, very little fire, and no interceptions.  And... Costello calls him the Jets best pick.  Sheesh.  Remember, Sheldon Rankins who we just signed to play DLine has just 1 fewer INT than Jamal Adams over the past 4 years.

Jamal is an excellent Strong Safety in the NFL, but he's not a difference maker and he was taken too early especially given what else was available in that Draft.  When you combine the 1st round pick the Jets used on him and the 1st round picks the Seahawks used on him you have a total of THREE 1st round picks used on a Safety who has TWO career Interceptions in FOUR seasons.

His best play was tackling the Patriots mascot during Pro Bowl week.

 

funny you mentioned Rankins, Costello had him as the worst draft pick of the saints lol

[doitny]

guys i dont think he was accounting for who we COULD HAVE drafted in Adams place. 

cause we could play that game with Becton who had Cee Dee Lamb, Justin Jefferson and Jonathon Taylor picked after him.

and QW had Montez Sweat, Josh Jacobs, DK Metcalf.....

so he right about Adams. whether we like him or not he was the best draft pick

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

I

I thought you said " Freebases himself " .

[sourceworx]

I wouldn't dispute Jamal being Mac's best pick only because he wasn't a colossal bust. That said the pick was still a disaster of monumental proportions. We needed a QB, and two excellent prospects were sitting there to be had. And Mac opted to go for a safety.

For all of the crying many of the older guys have done about passing on Dan Marino for Ken O'Brien, passing on Watson or Mahomes for Jamal was WAY worse. It's the worst personnel decision this team has ever made, hands down.

[sveusb]

Watson and Mahomes went to teams with good defenses, offensive lines, and skill positions. Teams that were in the playoffs the previous year. The Jets had none of these. Any quarterback taken by the Jets in 2017 would be considered a bust now. 

[Embrace the Suck]

Brian Costello Debases Himself

The act of being a Jets fan debases us as people as well. "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at Brian."

 

[Bugg]

3 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Jamal Adam’s is a Toyota Corolla.

Wins nominal awards for things like reliability. Problem is it’s really only good at one thing. It sucks at the things you really need it to do, and it embarrasses you in public.

Fortunately, you can buy it for $14k and 5 years later sell it for $13k.

The thing is, with a #6 pick we had the budget for a Mercedes.

There are lots of Corollas on the road, like box safeties. You can sign one every eyar in free agency. A primo QB is like a custom Lamborghini, ther aren't many . Maccagnan did not grasp this,again, opportunity cost and positional value, he had NO IDEA. 

[legler82]

PFF Draft Board: Top 100 prospects of 2017

23. Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech

Mahomes has an incredible feel for making plays outside of the flow of the offense, and when combined with his special arm talent, that allows him to make any throw from any platform—a best-case scenario for Mahomes is tantalizing. The problem is the same feel for making plays also leads to a number of poor decisions with the football, and a prospective team has to find the balance of keeping Mahomes’ aggressiveness and natural playmaking ability while harnessing him to make good decisions within the flow of the offense. 

2021 NFL Draft: PFF's Top 100 Draft Big Board

2. QB ZACH WILSON, BYU

Wilson’s pro day was as electric as the player we saw on the field last year for BYU. He was the highest-graded passer in the country and has NFL arm talent for days.

 

[LionelRichie]

Everybody knows safeties win championships

[Philc1]

QW and Becton are our two best draft picks of recent years

[Philc1]

10 hours ago, The Crusher said:

Marcus Maye. He has been franchised and Jamal is still waiting to get paid. 

Jamal is also waiting for that elusive 3rd career INT

[jetophile]

5 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Jamal is also waiting for that elusive 3rd career INT

Can't believe he never intercepted a pass with his mouth by accident because he was always talking so much sh it. 

[JETSxWRATH™]

But he is. Who exactly in the last 5 years did the Jets draft who has been as good at their position?

 

I grew tired of the drama that came with the guy and sure am happy they traded him for those picks. However, the attempt to discredit this dude's skills as a football player since being traded has been ridiculous. Is he Ed Reed, going to get you a bunch of INTs and TDs? No, that's not his game. His game is being a physical, intimidating, hard hitting strong safety who can also rush the passer, and he was ******* awesome in that role.

[JETSxWRATH™]

6 hours ago, Philc1 said:

QW and Becton are our two best draft picks of recent years

Becton hasn't proven he can be consistently healthy. He was hurt like 3 times last year? Williams had a meh rookie year, and didn't even complete his second season, although he did show major improvements. Both of these guys still have a lot to prove

[GKnight83]

Agreed.  Ken O'Brien was a huge surprise with Marino still on the board but he was a good QB.  I get the value comparison here.

I am always going to disagree with the Gholston pick though.  He was, indeed, a huge disappointment.  However, he was picked exactly where he was projected to be picked by almost everyone doing a mock at that time.

 

[More Cowbell]

20 hours ago, Bugg said:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/nfl-draft-analysis-ranking-teams-five-year-history/

So the Post asks him aas part of predraft to rank all 32 teams over the last 5 drafts. Also, the best pick of each team in that time frame.

He says the best pick of the Jets is ...Jamal Adams. Apparently opportunity cost is not something Costello understands. We can talk in Jets'history about Ken O'Brien, Darren Lee, Dee Milliner, Vernon Gholston...some much crap and msitakes. 

But make no mistake-THE PICK OF JAMAL ADAMS OVER EITHER OF THE PRIMO QBs STILL ON THE BOARD WAS THE SINGLE WORST DECISION IN FRANCHISE HISTORY BAR F___IN' NONE. 

It was that day, it is now, it will be so FOREVER. 

 

 

Ok, but I doubt that was what they were getting at when they asked him that question, they were asking who the best player was out of all the picks. Like it or not, Adams was and has the Pro Bowl and. All Pro selections to back it up. 

[nyjunc]

21 hours ago, Bugg said:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/nfl-draft-analysis-ranking-teams-five-year-history/

So the Post asks him aas part of predraft to rank all 32 teams over the last 5 drafts. Also, the best pick of each team in that time frame.

He says the best pick of the Jets is ...Jamal Adams. Apparently opportunity cost is not something Costello understands. We can talk in Jets'history about Ken O'Brien, Darren Lee, Dee Milliner, Vernon Gholston...some much crap and msitakes. 

But make no mistake-THE PICK OF JAMAL ADAMS OVER EITHER OF THE PRIMO QBs STILL ON THE BOARD WAS THE SINGLE WORST DECISION IN FRANCHISE HISTORY BAR F___IN' NONE. 

It was that day, it is now, it will be so FOREVER. 

 

 

If we drafted Watson or machines all the talk would be how we ruined them as they move into their next team.  Those guys walked into great situations, the opposite of what they would have walked into here.