Popular Post KRL Posted April 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2021 Two back surgeries and an ACL? Sounds like Dee Milliner, Douglas needs to stay FAR AWAY from him: https://nypost.com/2021/04/22/caleb-farleys-surgeries-put-2021-nfl-draft-stock-in-doubt/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons A few months ago, Caleb Farley was at or near the top of any cornerback rankings for the 2021 NFL Draft. Now, he may be on the board when the Jets are picking at No. 23 in the first round. Back surgery in March, his second in a little more than a year, has led many to believe Farley will last deeper into this draft than expected. He is one of the most fascinating prospects because he has immense talent, but after two back surgeries and a torn ACL in college, the injury risk is going to scare plenty of teams. He also opted out of the 2020 season, which creates more difficulty in the evaluation. Farley was unable to participate in Virginia Tech’s Pro Day last month because of the back surgery. “I have to control what I can control,” Farley said. “I got a great report from [back specialist] Dr. [Robert] Watkins about the season. Really, the only negative about the situation is not being able to go put up the numbers that I was supposed to. I’m just thankful to still be in this position to showcase my talent at the next level and whatever team grabs me is going to have the best corner in the draft.” Farley played the 2019 season with a herniated L5 disk and S1 bulge after injuring himself lifting weights. Those are at the base of the spine. He had surgery after that season to fix the L5 with the hope the S1 would correct itself. It did not, which led to the procedure in March. At the medical check this month in Indianapolis, Farley reportedly got a good report and is expected to be ready for training camp. Still, teams may be leery of taking someone with that kind of injury history. For the Jets, it will remind some people of Dee Milliner, their 2013 first-round pick who always battled injuries. Farley said he is not worried about how it affects his draft stock. “That’s for the media,” he said. “When the teams look at the imaging and get the real information, I don’t think it will be an issue. I accepted my draft invite, so I’ll be in Cleveland. If a team wants the best corner in the draft, they’ll come find me.” No one can question Farley’s athleticism. He played quarterback through high school, scoring 58 total touchdowns as a senior in North Carolina, and then moved to wide receiver at Virginia Tech. After a medical redshirt season in 2017, he moved to cornerback in 2018. The 6-foot-1, 197-pounder played the position for just two seasons, but had 25 passes defended in 24 games. He opted out of the 2020 season with good reason. He lost his mother in January 2018 to breast cancer. “I cannot afford to lose another parent or loved one,” Farley said when he announced his decision. The opt-out could hurt his stock with teams going off two-year-old games for their evaluation and the question of how raw he is after just two years at the position. “Caleb Farley, I thought needed to play this year to show that he could tackle and show the toughness because he’s a heck of a cover guy,” ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper said. “He gets a little … people say ‘handsy.’ There are some penalties that normally would be called in the NFL and weren’t in college. He’s got to clean that up. He’s got tremendous talent. A former quarterback and wide receiver and now he’s developed into a heck of a cover guy. He’s got the length. He’s got the athletic ability. But there are three injuries. You talk about the ACL, then the back and then another back to clean that up makes him the third cornerback, maybe the fourth cornerback. He could go anywhere, in my opinion, between 16 and 23, in that area.” 26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 While I do think JD is the type to take a chance on a kid that may miss time early in his career, at 23 he seems more and more like a reach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think the Jets need their first rounders to work out and taking a huge risk on an injured player is for a more complete team. If they pick him then I’ll hope for the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I would take a late round flyer on him. I have four bulging discs in my lumbar spine and I played contact sports through all of my 30’s and I’m not a professional athlete. He must be dedicated, but this will definitely limit his ability to lift weights. It’s doable, but he can be expected to miss time here and there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I personally think that with taking a QB at 2 being risky, making a risky pick at 23 too seems silly. Especially when it doesn’t help minimize the first risk by supporting it. But who knows what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If he’s on the board at #34, I’d take him in a heartbeat. The Hokies are known for putting quality DB’s into the NFL and Farley is the best prospect to come out of the program since DeAngelo Hall IMO. The guy plays a premium position and would possibly be the top defender in the draft if it wasn’t for the injury concerns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think we end up drafting one of these guys with injury history if they fall. Farley, Phillips, Dickerson. Just like they took a swing on Hall last year. Granted they took Hall in the fifth. But if Farley is there at 34 I could easily see JD taking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, the Claw said: I would take a late round flyer on him. I have four bulging discs in my lumbar spine and I played contact sports through all of my 30’s and I’m not a professional athlete. He must be dedicated, but this will definitely limit his ability to lift weights. It’s doable, but he can be expected to miss time here and there. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 After taking a QB at 2, the next two picks need to be made to support him. I do not want to see defense until at least round 3. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Honestly his back surgeries aren’t much to be concerned about. He got one that fixed one bulging disc and hoped the other healed on its own. Didn’t. And got that taken care of. I’d be more worried about the ACLs then the back. But players recover from that all the time too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I wouldn't be upset with him at 34, but I agree with the sentiment. Between injury history and opting-out, I don't know how you can have confidence in the guy as a prospect. How do you know what you're getting? I realize he got good marks in his medical re-check, but medicals aren't an indicator of who the guy is on the field, and time off + surgeries aren't the logical recipe for improvement. If he played this year I think I'd feel a little differently, but both leave me strongly resistant towards him. Great character and talent, but just too much uncertainty for my taste. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, fullblast said: I think we end up drafting one of these guys with injury history if they fall. Farley, Phillips, Dickerson. Just like they took a swing on Hall last year. Granted they took Hall in the fifth. But if Farley is there at 34 I could easily see JD taking him. well JD betterhope these guys dont get hurt from the start. he cant have another draft when half of them cant get off the IR 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, the Claw said: I would take a late round flyer on him. I have four bulging discs in my lumbar spine and I played contact sports through all of my 30’s and I’m not a professional athlete. He must be dedicated, but this will definitely limit his ability to lift weights. It’s doable, but he can be expected to miss time here and there. Ditto. I went from not being able to walk with a bulging disc to being completely fine and live a normal life. He can lift weights just fine if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 No way. Let some other dopes lament about this guy 2 years from now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think he’s the best CB by a mile but yeah it’s terrifying. The top CB and edge rusher both worry me with their injury history. They’ll probably dominate somewhere else but wouldn’t even play 5 games with the Jets. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Frank gore was a walking surgery in college. I think you have to trust your medical people on these things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Totally agree. I see him mocked to us CONSTANTLY at 23 and get pissed off. I've said it a dozen times, he has herniated discs in his back, THIS WILL NEVER HEAL. NEVER. Back and neck injuries, i'm out. Did everyone forget Enunwa's herniated discs in neck? I PROMISE, if the Jets spend the 23 on Farley, they might as well tear up the card and not turn it in because they are wasting a pick on a guy that will never play. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I generally agree. A talented player but we need to hit on these picks and back injuries are very scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I don’t want corner until the 3rd round at the earliest but I think Farley is the top corner in the draft, on talent alone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I don’t want corner until the 3rd round at the earliest but I think Farley is the top corner in the draft, on talent alone I don't think anyone is disputing his talent, but what good is a Ferrari if you never take it out of the garage? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 All good. Whether the Jets draft him or not, the OP is not likely to have anything to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Draft OL at 23, unless Pitts falls to 23. So OL is the pick here or JD needs to find a new job. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, Untouchable said: If he’s on the board at #34, I’d take him in a heartbeat. The Hokies are known for putting quality DB’s into the NFL and Farley is the best prospect to come out of the program since DeAngelo Hall IMO. The guy plays a premium position and would possibly be the top defender in the draft if it wasn’t for the injury concerns. Yeah at 23 its a pass for me. 34 though if he dropped that far, it would be hard to say no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Maxman said: Yeah at 23 its a pass for me. 34 though if he dropped that far, it would be hard to say no. Agreed If the Jets walked away from the Top 35 with Wilson, Jenkins and Farley...I’m not sure how any Jets fan could be anything less than ecstatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 So we take Wilson at 2 who had 2 recent surgeries and this guy at 23 with two back surgeries and an ACL. Are we trying to be the NFL all rehab team? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Agreed If the Jets walked away from the Top 35 with Wilson, Jenkins and Farley...I’m not sure how any Jets fan could be anything less than ecstatic. 34 being the 3rd pick makes it easier to take a gamble. They need three starters but I don't think you can blame Douglas if he swings for the fences a bit with the 3rd pick. Can't miss on the first two picks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Maxman said: 34 being the 3rd pick makes it easier to take a gamble. They need three starters but I don't think you can blame Douglas if he swings for the fences a bit with the 3rd pick. Can't miss on the first two picks though. I can and will blame him. In this draft, 34 is significant trade bait or a very good player. It is not the time to take such a huge risk. Sorry, I can't get on board with Farley before round 3. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I want nothing to do with ANY cornerback in the 1st 3 rounds. FIX THE OFFENSE!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I would rather draft Chris Farley . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I want nothing to do with any CB in the first 3 rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: I want nothing to do with any CB in the first 3 rounds. Yup. After taking Wilson at 2, the Jets will use their next 4 picks protecting him and getting him weapons. The days of corners an dlineman are over. We have a real gm running the show now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Why is a CB even really in the discussion at 23 or 34 to begin with? I thought this system relied on a pass rush and cheap zone coverage CBs anyways? It just doesn't seem like the juice would be worth the squeeze at either spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Yup. After taking Wilson at 2, the Jets will use their next 4 picks protecting him and getting him weapons. The days of corners an dlineman are over. We have a real gm running the show now. I certainly hope you're right. I know you're high on JD - I think he's done what he had to do and has a plan, but I still have my questions. If he goes O with 23, 34 and 66 - I'm with you 100%.... I will full faith in this organization going forward that we have the right people in charge... If he takes a CB at 23 - I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. That he's shown he lacks a basic understanding of the NFL and will ultimately be a horrible GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Back surgeries are a big red flag for me. The medical industry has a long way to go with the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I remember in 2017 when jets fans told me They didnt want Marshon Lattimore cause of his injury history. He was dee milliner 2.0. How has that worked out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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