Popular Post Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2021 Most NFL teams are going to draft players they meet with especially in the high rounds. For example the Jets visited with 42 players last year and drafted 5 of them. Quote But here are the 42 players that the Jets are confirmed to have visited with so far. QB (1): James Morgan (FIU) RB (2): Dre Brown (Illinois), James Robinson (Illinois State) WR (7): Lawrence Cager (Georgia), Van Jefferson (Florida), Jerry Jeudy (Alabama), CeeDee Lamb (Oklahoma), Denzel Mims (Baylor), Darrell Stewart (Michigan State), Binjimen Victor (Ohio State) TE (1): Giovanni Ricci (Western Michigan) OT (8): Mekhi Becton (Louisville), Brandon Bowen (Ohio State), Cameron Clark (Charlotte), Austin Jackson (USC), Josh Jones (Houston), Andrew Thomas (Georgia), Jedrick Wills (Alabama), Tristan Wirfs (Iowa) OG (4): Robert Hunt (Louisiana-Lafayette), Damien Lewis (LSU), Kyle Murphy (Rhode Island), Michael Onwenu (Michigan) C (4): Nick Harris (Washington), Frederick Mauigoa (Washington State), Cesar Ruiz (Michigan), Darryl Williams (Mississippi State) EDGE (6): K’Lavon Chaisson (LSU), Jonathan Greenard (Florida), Azur Kamara (Kansas), Julian Okwara (Notre Dame), James Smith-Williams (NC State), Jonah Williams (Weber State) DL (2): Kameron Cline (South Dakota), Larrell Murchison (NC State) CB (7): Cameron Dantzler (Mississippi State), Javaris Davis (Auburn), Trevon Diggs (Alabama), Kristian Fulton (LSU), Jeff Gladney (TCU), Amik Robertson (Louisiana Tech), Keith Washington (West Virginia) So we could get a very good idea of the Jets direction this year by looking at their visits. I think we could easily put together the Jets Draft Board for 23 and 34 based on this. Furthermore when you really look at our interviews along with our FA one thing is clear: The Jets draft goal is simply: Protection and Playmakers. Lets start by looking at who the Jets have met with so far. This is who we are likely drafting. Quote From uStadium.com: New York Jets @uSTADIUM . 11 hours ago Some Names the Jets Have Met/Spoke With With no NFL Combine and everything being done virtual or at the Senior Bowl/Pro Day’s, it’s been harder to find out which players teams have had a chance to meet/talk with but we were able to gather a solid amount of names the Jets have spoken with. This doesn’t mean they haven’t spoken with others or that any of these guys will be drafted, it’s just a list of guys we can confirm the Jets brass chatted with. RBs: Memphis Kenneth Gainwell, Clemson Travis Etienne, Alabama Najee Harris, UNC Michael Carter, Buffalo Jaret Patterson, Iowa State Kene Nwangwu, Louisville RB Javian Hawkins, Oregon State RB Jermar Jefferson, UCLA Demetric Felton, Virginia Tech Khalil Herbert WRs: ASU Frank Darby, Auburn Anthony Schwartz, Auburn Eli Stove, Minnesota Rashod Bateman, Florida Kadarius Toney, Alabama DeVonta Smith, Purdue Rondale Moore, Iowa Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Clemson Amari Rodgers TE’s: Notre Dame Tommy Tremble, UCF WR/TE Jacob Harris, Miami Brevin Jordan OL: Massachusetts Larnel Coleman, Oklahoma State Teven Jenkins, USC Alijah Vera-Tucker, Middle Tennessee State Robert Jones, Grambling David Moore, Oklahoma Creed Humphrey IDL: WVU Darius Stills, NC State DL Alim McNeill, Washington Levi Onwuzurike, Notre Dame Ade Ogundeji EDGE: Boston College Max Roberts, Notre Dame Daelin Hayes, Ohio State Jonathon Cooper, Oklahoma St Cameron Murray, Northern Iowa Elerson Smith LB: LSU JaCoby Stevens, Tulsa Zaven Collins, Auburn K.J. Britt DB: Northwestern CB Greg Newsome II, SDSU Darren Hall, Auburn Jordyn Peters, Syracuse Trill Williams, Washington Elijah Molden, Minnesota Benjamin St. Juste, Missouri Joshuah Bledsoe Credit to @Lith, @Paradis @maury77 @football guy and other studs in the draft forum that have been on this from day 1. Besides this list they have confirmed the Jets have met with Jaylen Waddle and Ronnie Perkins. Could the Jets have met with other guys. OFCOURSE! However I think this is a large enough sample we could make some observations. Lets make a big board for 23/34 based on these interviews. Guys that we have interviewed that are projected to go top 50. Jets Top 50 Big Board Jaylen Waddle Devonta Smith Greg Newsome AVT Tevin Jenkins Zaven Collins Rashard Batemen Kadarious Toney Creed Humphrey Travis Ettiene Najee Harris Rondale Moore Top Observations and Draft Predictions. 1- Trade up for a Stud WR? You don't interview Waddle or Smith unless you're considering moving up for a WR. Notice we didn't interview every other top 10 player. If you see Waddle drop to 8-12 its absolutely a range the Jets could afford with all of our extra picks. Playmakers. 2- AVT and Jenkins - If the Jets stay at 23 or move up slightly these are certainly the guys we are staring at. I think its interesting the Jets didn't interview Darrishaw to our knowledge which means to me the focus is on IOL. Extremely high chance one of these guys is our pick at 23. Protection. 3 - Najee Harris and Travis Etienne - Everyone says the Jets are not focusing on a RB. This would say otherwise. I would think these two need to be watched if they slip. Perhaps it's if we move back at 34. Perhaps it's a move up from our 3. But they are on the board. Playmakers. 4- Creed Humphrey - Its not like we spent alot of time with other centers. Creed would be a big consideration if he's there at 34. IOL Protection. 5-Batemen, Toney and Rondale Moore - These guys are all targets at 34. Batemen should go earlier but whats really interesting here is we interviewed 3 WR's that should be around that pick. The Jets are extremely serious at bringing in another weapon at WR very early in this draft. When you look at what SF did the last two years with Deebo and Aiyuk this makes alot of sense. This also might lead to trading Crowder during the draft as you don't have this high of a pick sit on the bench. Playmakers. 6- First Round Grades ? - Super debatable but the First Round graded players on that list are Waddle, Smith, AVT, Jenkins, Newsome, Batemen and Zaven Collins. Pretty short list. 7- We interviewed Elerson Smith- Would be absolutely Fantastic to avoid Edge early and draft this guy with our early 3rd round pick. Monster upside and could fill a FT role once Curry leaves next year. Would prob be my favorite pick of the draft if we land him there. 8. - Guys the Jets could trade on Draft Day - Crowder and Mosley. Mosley 100% if we get a decent offer. Crowder if we draft a WR high. 9- Notice a whole lot of guys that will be there 34-40? Notice a bunch of guys that may not make it to 23? To me this screams moving up at 23 and moving down at 34. This is my prediction and makes a ton of sense for two reasons: A- It is likely we have first round grades on 20 players or less. You would want to get up for that tier. B- At 34 we are in a great position to trade down unless someone dropped as the value there looks to be the same for 10-15 picks. This is a prime trade down spot EVERY year in every draft at the top of round 2. This is a easy prediction. 10- You guys over there worrying about the Jets drafting edge at 23 - Spoiler Alert - were not doing that. We didn't interview one edge guy that would go around there. The Two edges we are likely looking at are Ronnie Perkins or Elerson Smith which both look like late 2's or more likely our early 3rd rounder. In Fact outside of Newsome the chances of us going defense with either of our first two picks are small. Bonus Two Possible Trades: Douglas calls his friends in Philly and trade 1.23 and both of our 3rd round picks for Jaylen Waddle and Philly's 5th Rounder. Douglas calls Arizona who has no picks and trades 1.23 and our 3rd for AVT. Regardless of what we do the major theme here from the visits is the Jets are focusing on some combination of linemen and Playmaker with our first two picks. Perhaps the Jets go Jenkins, Moore and Smith with our First 3 picks. Perhaps the Jets go AVT, Moore and move up for Etienne in the mid second. Maybe we move up for Waddle and grab Humphrey with our first 2 picks. Whatever the case it is extremely clear the Jets are going after Protection and Playmakers on offense this draft with their high picks. Absolutely should be exciting for Jet fans that have not had a good offense since I could remember. 14 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I agree about RB, I know RBs are devalued and the Jets will use unknowns because of the shanny system thing but you should not go out of your way to avoid really good players at that position. I'd be happy if we drafted Harris or Etienne. (But oline is still #1 priority) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Surprised with the OL names that aren’t listed. Eichenberg ND, would be in that #34 range. He’d slide into RT seamlessly. JOSH Myers C OSU @ #66. I do like the WR group having been interviewed. Schwartz in the 5th would be a steal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I agree about RB, I know RBs are devalued and the Jets will use unknowns because of the shanny system thing but you should not go out of your way to avoid really good players at that position. I'd be happy if we drafted Harris or Etienne. (But oline is still #1 priority) When's the last time we actually had a running back perform adequately for an entire season? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, peebag said: When's the last time we actually had a running back perform adequately for an entire season? 2009 Thomas Jones 1402 yards 14 TD 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted April 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I agree about RB, I know RBs are devalued and the Jets will use unknowns because of the shanny system thing but you should not go out of your way to avoid really good players at that position. I'd be happy if we drafted Harris or Etienne. (But oline is still #1 priority) To me, it all depends on how the draft has played out at the time of the pick. If we take an OL at 23, and a Harris or Etienne is sitting there at 34, and they are the top playmakers on the board, I would not have a problem with it. But if we go defense at 23 and then RB at 34, leaving the OL to R3, that would make me nervous. I think sometimes people get too hung up on value. IMO, we need to add at least one rookie starter to the OL. And we are most liekly to find that guy at 23. If we can get a guy like Jenkins or Humprey at 23, and they are solid starters for the foreseeable future, then I don't give a damn if we reached and left a "higher value" CB or Edge on the board. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Etienne is a day 1 starter and you can give him the ball 20+ times a game. The Jets could use that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Icer Posted April 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2021 Dont draft RBs in Round 1/2 unless you have a stacked roster already 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 LOL I literally just posted my final mock and I had the Jets trading UP a few spots (not too far) for Jenkins. It was with Washington to 19. Then moving down from 34 and taking Rondale Moore. So yeah. I completely agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I'm sure that list isn't exhaustive. So many guys they can meet with via Zoom - there's usually a larger list than that for in person contact. I think Devonta Smith is a dude you want on this team. Really high character guy. Seems like he'll slide because he's light but if he hits, which I think he will, it's huge for a young quarterback to have a go to option. Not a lot of offensive linemen and I wonder if they kick tackle down the curb a little but Larnel Coleman is athletic and high character. Would be a really nice day three pick to develop behind Fant and I think they have room on the roster. Behind Becton, Edoga, and Fant I think the tackle to beat out for a roster spot is Connor McGovern. Love Creed Humphrey too. Seems like he'll always be the adult in the room. And a great athlete to boot. Finally, Kene Nwangwu baby. Team captain, stuck behind great college backs his whole college career, plays special teams, ran a 4.32 at 6' 210. Late round pick and let him shine in the ZBS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 My dream: Jenkins at 23 (RT or start at RG for a year) and Creed (C) at 34. Two new starters on the line and McGovern slides to G. Then BPA the rest of the way, focusing on CB, offense, and maybe another edge guy. Maybe a third OL to develop from the 5th round on. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 @Paradis dislikes Toney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ1 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I saw a mock recently where the Jets selected Pat Freiermuth in the third round. The mock assumed Freiermuth slipped that far. Would love for Joe Douglas to get a guy that well thought of in the 3rd round. That would be great value and a no brainer need pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: Etienne is a day 1 starter and you can give him the ball 20+ times a game. The Jets could use that. It would be a welcomed change, to give the ball to someone 20+ times a game, who is also someone that justifies touching the ball 20+ times a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, TheClashFan said: My dream: Jenkins at 23 (RT or start at RG for a year) and Creed (C) at 34. Two new starters on the line and McGovern slides to G. Then BPA the rest of the way, focusing on CB, offense, and maybe another edge guy. Maybe a third OL to develop from the 5th round on. If that is who we got at 23 and 34 I would be totally elated. As an added bonus this forum would be elated as well as I'd finally shut up with my crying and bleating about neglect of the oline. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 2009 Thomas Jones 1402 yards 14 TD 2015. Chris Ivory over 1000 yds 8 tdsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jets0712 said: 2015. Chris Ivory over 1000 yds 8 tds Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Thomas Jones way better and we made it to the AFC Championship game. Ivory 1070 yards 7 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 To the OP my gut feel is trading up from 23 and trading down at 34 as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntoTheGreen Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Jets started interviews before they traded Darnold. Trading back from 2 was on the table. That is more the reason why they interviewed guys like Waddle. Is a trade up in the event of a slide possible? Sure, but that's not why they were originally interviewed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, IntoTheGreen said: Jets started interviews before they traded Darnold. Trading back from 2 was on the table. That is more the reason why they interviewed guys like Waddle. Is a trade up in the event of a slide possible? Sure, but that's not why they were originally interviewed. So where are the other top 10 guys they interviewed besides Waddle and Smith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 Will add this to OP. Here are the Visits last year. We visited with 42 players last year. We drafted 5 of the players we visited with. The OP mentions visits with 50 players. Perhaps there is some missing. But you can bet we will be drafting players on that list. Quote But here are the 42 players that the Jets are confirmed to have visited with so far. QB (1): James Morgan (FIU) RB (2): Dre Brown (Illinois), James Robinson (Illinois State) WR (7): Lawrence Cager (Georgia), Van Jefferson (Florida), Jerry Jeudy (Alabama), CeeDee Lamb (Oklahoma), Denzel Mims (Baylor), Darrell Stewart (Michigan State), Binjimen Victor (Ohio State) TE (1): Giovanni Ricci (Western Michigan) OT (8): Mekhi Becton (Louisville), Brandon Bowen (Ohio State), Cameron Clark (Charlotte), Austin Jackson (USC), Josh Jones (Houston), Andrew Thomas (Georgia), Jedrick Wills (Alabama), Tristan Wirfs (Iowa) OG (4): Robert Hunt (Louisiana-Lafayette), Damien Lewis (LSU), Kyle Murphy (Rhode Island), Michael Onwenu (Michigan) C (4): Nick Harris (Washington), Frederick Mauigoa (Washington State), Cesar Ruiz (Michigan), Darryl Williams (Mississippi State) EDGE (6): K’Lavon Chaisson (LSU), Jonathan Greenard (Florida), Azur Kamara (Kansas), Julian Okwara (Notre Dame), James Smith-Williams (NC State), Jonah Williams (Weber State) DL (2): Kameron Cline (South Dakota), Larrell Murchison (NC State) CB (7): Cameron Dantzler (Mississippi State), Javaris Davis (Auburn), Trevon Diggs (Alabama), Kristian Fulton (LSU), Jeff Gladney (TCU), Amik Robertson (Louisiana Tech), Keith Washington (West Virginia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntoTheGreen Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Shockwave said: So where are the other top 10 guys they interviewed besides Waddle and Smith? 5 of them are QBs. It's reasonable to assume JD wasn't going to draft another LT (Sewell)...we had rumored interest in Pitts so not sure why he wasn't interviewed, but who else are we supposed to have been interviewing there? Chase? That's basically the top 10 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 minute ago, IntoTheGreen said: 5 of them are QBs. It's reasonable to assume JD wasn't going to draft another LT (Sewell)...we had rumored interest in Pitts so not sure why he wasn't interviewed, but who else are we supposed to have been interviewing there? Chase? That's basically the top 10 this year. They never interviewed ANY player that is locked into the top 10. Chase? Pitts? Sewell? Slater? Surtain? Basically they interviewed no player in the top 10 besides the QB's. Depending on who's mock your looking at Devonta Smith or Waddle (Or Both) are being taking 10 or later. Jeremiah's latest mock has Devonta Smith 11 and Waddle 16. Both are taking from 10-20 in several other writers as well. With Douglas mentioning in the last few days he is already discussing trade up the targets for a move up are clearly one of Devonta or Waddle or perhaps AVT/Jenkins depending on the Jets rankings. All 4 guys go from 11-24 in just about every mock out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Matt39 said: Etienne is a day 1 starter and you can give him the ball 20+ times a game. The Jets could use that. If and when the Jets trade down in the second round Etienne becomes very interesting. Because let's say they move down to 40 or so and one of he or Harris are on the board who else on the above list would be ranked higher than them? Rondale Moore? I would think Etienne takes that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Surprised with the OL names that aren’t listed. Eichenberg ND, would be in that #34 range. He’d slide into RT seamlessly. JOSH Myers C OSU @ #66. I do like the WR group having been interviewed. Schwartz in the 5th would be a steal. Super Surprised too. For me it was that they didn't interview Darrishaw. Overall I just took this as what your looking at for the Jets is some combination of Oline and Playmaker at 23 and 34. It seems that those are the positions we are focusing on unless someone special slips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Trade up to 16 (ARI) from 23; the cost is 3(86), and 4(107). both get 1000 pts value Trade back to 43 (SF) from 34; the profit is 3(92). trade favors Jets 2 pts 1(2): Zatch Wilson 1(16): T. Jenkins (RG) 2(43): Turner/ Bashum/Perkins (Edge) 3(66): Little/Christensen (LG) 3(102): Dylan Moses (LB, or Best WR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Trade up to 16 (ARI) from 23; the cost is 3(86), and 4(107). both get 1000 pts value Trade back to 43 (SF) from 34; the profit is 3(92). trade favors Jets 2 pts 1(2): Zatch Wilson 1(16): T. Jenkins (RG) 2(43): Turner/ Bashum/Perkins (Edge) 3(66): Little/Christensen (LG) 3(102): Dylan Moses (LB, or Best WR) Brilliant trades to get us back a 3. You prob land a top RB at 43 like Etienne if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LIJetsFan Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 hours ago, IntoTheGreen said: 5 of them are QBs. It's reasonable to assume JD wasn't going to draft another LT (Sewell)...we had rumored interest in Pitts so not sure why he wasn't interviewed, but who else are we supposed to have been interviewing there? Chase? That's basically the top 10 this year. Just thinking out loud here....I suppose most of GMs keep track of which teams made high level visits the players they themselves covet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 If we go oline at 23, ive come around to taking Ettienne at 34. I was thinking Terrace Marshal there but with us having a solid top 3 receiver set for this year, im in on Ettienne. We can addres reciever next year when they dump crowder. There is no one at 34 that would have a bigger impact on our offense then Ettienne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 From Albert Brewer a few days ago ... Jenkins has a back problem? ... From Dog faceOrange heart (@WhereMyDawgz): Other than Farley and Parsons that could potentially slip, who else can you see fall? To be clear here, Caleb Farley’s issues are health-related (back surgery), and Micah Parsons’s go back to his makeup/character. Both are freak athletes. Both are capable of being top-shelf pros at their position (Farley a cornerback, Parsons a linebacker). Farley needs a little luck. Parsons needs a little maturity. I know their blemishes aren’t disqualifying for some teams, so we’ll see who takes the plunge. If either reaches the back half of the first round, the value there could be sky-high. Some others that have slid a little … • Michigan OT Jalen Mayfield was banged up this year, playing just two games last fall, and didn’t work out well at his pro day. At this point, I’d be surprised if he goes the first round • Oklahoma State OL Teven Jenkins and RB Chuba Hubbard are two others who’ve slid. There are concerns over Jenkins’s injury history (back) and makeup, and Hubbard’s a back whose calling card, lacking elusiveness, was speed, and he only ran in the 4.5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 4 hours ago, BroadwayRay said: From Albert Brewer a few days ago ... Jenkins has a back problem? ... From Dog faceOrange heart (@WhereMyDawgz): Other than Farley and Parsons that could potentially slip, who else can you see fall? To be clear here, Caleb Farley’s issues are health-related (back surgery), and Micah Parsons’s go back to his makeup/character. Both are freak athletes. Both are capable of being top-shelf pros at their position (Farley a cornerback, Parsons a linebacker). Farley needs a little luck. Parsons needs a little maturity. I know their blemishes aren’t disqualifying for some teams, so we’ll see who takes the plunge. If either reaches the back half of the first round, the value there could be sky-high. Some others that have slid a little … • Michigan OT Jalen Mayfield was banged up this year, playing just two games last fall, and didn’t work out well at his pro day. At this point, I’d be surprised if he goes the first round • Oklahoma State OL Teven Jenkins and RB Chuba Hubbard are two others who’ve slid. There are concerns over Jenkins’s injury history (back) and makeup, and Hubbard’s a back whose calling card, lacking elusiveness, was speed, and he only ran in the 4.5s. I haven't seen video of Hubbard being caught from behind... I call it the Jerry Rice syndrome... How many times did you see Jerry Rice caught from behind... Jerry Rice ran a 4.58 40. I think Hubbard would be Great in this type of offense... I cut & run... he would lights out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: If we go oline at 23, ive come around to taking Ettienne at 34. I was thinking Terrace Marshal there but with us having a solid top 3 receiver set for this year, im in on Ettienne. We can addres reciever next year when they dump crowder. There is no one at 34 that would have a bigger impact on our offense then Ettienne. This is the dream scenario for me. Add a starter to the OL and a true weapon at RB. I don’t see Etienne making it to 34 though. Would be a fun Thursday night around here if he or Harris is on the board after round one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 According to the value chart, Jets can trade up to 16 by giving up their first 3rd round pick. If they love a player, I’m a big fan of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Shockwave said: 1- Trade up for a Stud WR? You don't interview Waddle or Smith unless you're considering moving up for a WR. Notice we didn't interview every other top 10 player. If you see Waddle drop to 8-12 its absolutely a range the Jets could afford with all of our extra picks. Playmakers. 2- AVT and Jenkins - If the Jets stay at 23 or move up slightly these are certainly the guys we are staring at. I think its interesting the Jets didn't interview Darrishaw to our knowledge which means to me the focus is on IOL. Extremely high chance one of these guys is our pick at 23. Protection. 3 - Najee Harris and Travis Etienne - Everyone says the Jets are not focusing on a RB. This would say otherwise. I would think these two need to be watched if they slip. Perhaps it's if we move back at 34. Perhaps it's a move up from our 3. But they are on the board. Playmakers. You make some very good points in this post. #1 & #2 here, I can thoroughly get onboard. Where I disagree is that both AVT and Jenkins have legitimate OT potential/ability in the NFL, and I think that's why you see those guys targeted high. They wouldn't go pure guard there, but a potential tackle at #23 or a small move up is a solid play. I cannot express how disappointed I will be if the Jets draft a RB on the first two days of the draft. I can only hope that those interviews are either contingency cases or attempts to throw other teams off their scent. 20 hours ago, Shockwave said: 4- Creed Humphrey - Its not like we spent alot of time with other centers. Creed would be a big consideration if he's there at 34. IOL Protection. 5-Batemen, Toney and Rondale Moore - These guys are all targets at 34. Batemen should go earlier but whats really interesting here is we interviewed 3 WR's that should be around that pick. The Jets are extremely serious at bringing in another weapon at WR very early in this draft. When you look at what SF did the last two years with Deebo and Aiyuk this makes alot of sense. This also might lead to trading Crowder during the draft as you don't have this high of a pick sit on the bench. Playmakers. Creed Humphrey seems to get a lot more love here than he gets around the rest of the internet. My guess is that he might become a day 2 target if they failed to hit the OL in round one. Otherwise, I think the WRs are more likely. Like you say, emulating the 49ers. I think receiving targets, and depth at the position (frighteningly exposed last year) are gonna be priorities. 20 hours ago, Shockwave said: 9- Notice a whole lot of guys that will be there 34-40? Notice a bunch of guys that may not make it to 23? To me this screams moving up at 23 and moving down at 34. This is my prediction and makes a ton of sense for two reasons: A- It is likely we have first round grades on 20 players or less. You would want to get up for that tier. B- At 34 we are in a great position to trade down unless someone dropped as the value there looks to be the same for 10-15 picks. This is a prime trade down spot EVERY year in every draft at the top of round 2. This is a easy prediction. This does make sense, and I think it's probably the way a lot of people are thinking. If they have a short list of players with first round grades, it could make sense for them to move up from this pick. It will all depend on how the board breaks in front of them. If their first rounders fly off too early, they might instead decide to try to move down. Obviously the high second is a prime trading spot. Teams will have all night to re-adjust their boards, with many teams eyeing a player or two that they're a little surprised is still available. 20 hours ago, Shockwave said: 10- You guys over there worrying about the Jets drafting edge at 23 - Spoiler Alert - were not doing that. We didn't interview one edge guy that would go around there. The Two edges we are likely looking at are Ronnie Perkins or Elerson Smith which both look like late 2's or more likely our early 3rd rounder. In Fact outside of Newsome the chances of us going defense with either of our first two picks are small. This makes me sad. A draft where Joe Douglas landed a stud QB and a stud pass rusher would be one immortalized for the ages. 20 hours ago, Shockwave said: Two Possible Trades: Douglas calls his friends in Philly and trade 1.23 and both of our 3rd round picks for Jaylen Waddle and Philly's 5th Rounder. Douglas calls Arizona who has no picks and trades 1.23 and our 3rd for AVT. I'll be a little surprised if JD trades three picks for one. He's a collector of picks, and I don't think he'll be looking to trade them away like that. I could see more trading #23 & #86 to WFT for #19 & #124, where slides up a few slots and still has the same number of picks. Conversely, #34 will be offered to the team willing to give up the most picks. 20 hours ago, Shockwave said: 8. - Guys the Jets could trade on Draft Day - Crowder and Mosley. Mosley 100% if we get a decent offer. Crowder if we draft a WR high. I expect both of these guys to be on the team. Mosley, because there won't really be any worthwhile offers, and Crowder because he's a good, reliable receiver. Even if they draft his replacement high, I'd wait a year. The other reason is comp picks. Can't get them when you're signing more players than you lose, but next year that could start to change. Crowder is in the last year of his contract, and is a player who will probably land a decent contract in free agency. He's not gonna net you a third, but probably a fifth. Depending on how JD's last draft class develops, and this one goes, next year could be the year he just targets one or two guys in FA, lets a number of his one-year deals walk, and adds some supplemental picks in 2022. Overall, you make a really good case. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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